The NS Infantry Discussion Thread MkII*

by **Imperializt Russia** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 6:56 am

Triplebaconation wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:What's that at the end of the sight, Danton?.

A frosted plastic dome.

What function does it serve?

by **Spreewerke** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 7:01 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Triplebaconation wrote:
A frosted plastic dome.

What function does it serve?

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_18/53337 ... sight.html

http://milsimempire.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1263

http://www.vintagepaperads.com/assets/images/BU0408.jpg

http://shootery.blogspot.com/2010/07/mo ... sight.html

Mozria wrote:
Black Hand wrote:not sure what wiki is citing but it claims 600m while world guns claims 300-400m take that how you will
also it's a PSO-1 a 4X optic which is what you should use. 500M is't necessarily "sniper" range more of marksman range.

I've never seen a modern precision optic with less than 6X magnification. Heck, my friend even uses 6X on his AR-15 when shooting out to 500 meters at steel plates (hard to hear the ringing, though).

EDIT: VKS also uses a 6X optic. I'm guessing that's the way to go.

My second-cousin and his family history of being in the Marines meant that he and his son both qualified at 500m with a rifle-length M16 using iron sights. Take that as you will.

by **Kouralia** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 9:10 am

wow
such armoured infantry
many mechanised infantry
so light role
much motorised
amaze

by **The balkens** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 9:53 am

Kouralia wrote:wow
such armoured infantry
many mechanised infantry
so light role
much motorised
amaze

Impressive.

by **United states of brazilian nations** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 10:47 am

Spreewerke wrote:
The balkens wrote:
I might add that, but the whole purpose is I wanted to make an export Weapon.

I could show you guys some other things I made like the God awful MG-5.

The K2 uses STANAG magazines, M16 slings and bayonets, and it has AR/M16 ergonomics (save for the reciprocating charging handle at 3 o'clock). It also has the operating system and general reliability of the AK series mixed in with a little bit of FAL for its gas block and furniture/folding stock. Add that in with iron sights that are superior to the AR-15 in regards to accuracy and ease of use, and you've got a damn fine rifle.

Why it never became a widespread firearm is beyond me. It's a very solid design; much better than many, many other 5.56x45mm assault rifles one might find.

politics. they always ruin awesome projects.

Bezombia wrote:
Black Hand wrote:Your ability to be obnoxious has not dampened.

What? I'm not wrong.
Even if you assume a meek 2000 FPS at the muzzle, the round has an energy of 18,172,711 joules at fifty yards. Imagine how much that would fuck you up if you got shot point blank.

and the recoil would probably turn you into jelly.

Puzikas wrote:
Kouralia wrote:Oi, Puz mate. Russia's marines have a bland name.

Yea but I have to say we look good doing it.
I loved that jacket...

Plus the only countrys with a good name for their marines are Brazil (Corps of Naval Fusiliers), Norway (The Coastal Ranger Command (Kystjegerkommandoen)) and South Korea with their damned ROKM, who simply by virtue of being so incredibly terrifying for an Asiatic nations marine force, have an inherit badass name.

Corpo de Fuzileiros Navais FTW! good thing to hear they will probably be switching their jam-tastic M-16s for glorious FAL-derived nationally-designed IMBEL IA-2 rifles like the rest of the armed forces (army currently uses notFALs and air foce currently uses HK33s.)

by **Black Hand** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:10 pm

Splinter pattern with different coloration by brigade y/n?

by **Bezombia** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:12 pm

United states of brazilian nations wrote:and the recoil would probably turn you into jelly.

Sieg

by **The Archangel Conglomerate** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:13 pm

Bezombia wrote:Sieg

Not that amazing.

by **Premislyd** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:15 pm

The balkens wrote:Anyway, what are your armies squad sizes?

For mine, its twelve.

Depends on the infantry's role/sub-branch.

by **Bezombia** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:15 pm

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:
Bezombia wrote:Sieg

Not that amazing.

It reduced literally over 100% of muzzle rise of .30-06 in the Sieg rifle. Tell me that isn't amazing.

by **Black Hand** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:16 pm

Bezombia wrote:
United states of brazilian nations wrote:and the recoil would probably turn you into jelly.

Sieg

The sieg isn't that great. Best evolution inmmuzzle devices.was probably AKM compebsator it had a dramatic effect and was damn simple and cheap. The Sieg is expensive. Edit:god my posts loom like shit ehh fuckit.I'm on mobile

by **Bezombia** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:17 pm

Black Hand wrote:
Bezombia wrote:
Sieg

The sieg isn't that great. Best evolution inmmuzzle devices.was probably AKM compebsator it had a dramatic effect and was damn simple.

It reduced literally over 100% of muzzle rise of .30-06 in the Sieg rifle. Tell me that isn't amazing.

by **The Archangel Conglomerate** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:39 pm

Bezombia wrote:It reduced literally over 100% of muzzle rise of .30-06 in the Sieg rifle. Tell me that isn't amazing.

Well, that's grand. Doesn't do much to mitigate recoil though.

by **Bezombia** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:39 pm

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:
Bezombia wrote:It reduced literally over 100% of muzzle rise of .30-06 in the Sieg rifle. Tell me that isn't amazing.

Well, that's grand. Doesn't do much to mitigate recoil though.

There are many other ways to reduce recoil.

by **Puzikas** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:41 pm

Its really not that special goven muzzle climb =/=recoil. Plus, "eliminated 100%" is a dubious claim at best.

by **Central and Eastern Visayas** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:48 pm

Premislyd wrote:
The balkens wrote:Anyway, what are your armies squad sizes?

For mine, its twelve.

Depends on the infantry's role/sub-branch.

Standard infantry? 8 for Army/(trying to find a USMC-derived TO&E) for Marines.

by **Black Hand** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:17 pm

Puzikas wrote:Its really not that special goven muzzle climb =/=recoil. Plus, "eliminated 100%" is a dubious claim at best.

Sieg with a AK-74 brake attached to the front with a vortex flash hider attached to the front of that. I will call it beno brake. (Due to obsession with vortex and sieg)

by **The Archangel Conglomerate** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:19 pm

Black Hand wrote:Sieg with a AK-74 brake attached to the front with a vortex flash hider attached to the front of that. I will call it beno brake. (Due to obsession with vortex and sieg)

No more PMG for you, Black.

by **Bezombia** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:19 pm

Black Hand wrote:
Puzikas wrote:Its really not that special goven muzzle climb =/=recoil. Plus, "eliminated 100%" is a dubious claim at best.

Sieg with a AK-74 brake attached to the front with a vortex flash hider attached to the front of that. I will call it beno brake. (Due to obsession with vortex and sieg)

Please don't name anything after me that I didn't have any involvement in creating.

by **Dat cua Tien** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:20 pm

Black Hand wrote:
Puzikas wrote:Its really not that special goven muzzle climb =/=recoil. Plus, "eliminated 100%" is a dubious claim at best.

Sieg with a AK-74 brake attached to the front with a vortex flash hider attached to the front of that. I will call it beno brake. (Due to obsession with vortex and sieg)

just pick one

You get reduce muzzle rise and recoil, or reduced muzzle flash. They're pretty inclusive. Muzzle devices that try and do both don't do either well.

by **Romic** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:27 pm

Would using the NATO structure be a good Idea to structure an army off of?

by **Kouralia** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:28 pm

Romic wrote:Would using the NATO structure be a good Idea to structure an army off of?

#Britfaggery

by **Central and Eastern Visayas** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:29 pm

Romic wrote:Would using the NATO structure be a good Idea to structure an army off of?

Maybe. I personally use modified US Army TOE's.

by **The Archangel Conglomerate** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:31 pm

Bezombia wrote:Please don't name anything after me that I didn't have any involvement in creating.

But, Beno Break has such an awesome ring to it!

by **San-Silvacian** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:39 pm

Romic wrote:Would using the NATO structure be a good Idea to structure an army off of?

brigade combat team best combat team

die commie + britfag regiments

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