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Who should begin the next thread?

San-Silvacian
8
9%
Purpelia
7
8%
Beno
10
11%
Puzikas
20
22%
Kouralia
5
5%
The Archangel Conglomerate:
8
9%
Immoren
4
4%
Premislyd
10
11%
Anemos Major
15
16%
The Akasha Colony
4
4%
 
Total votes : 91

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Nua Corda
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Postby Nua Corda » Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:21 pm

Bezombia wrote:
Nua Corda wrote:RRA PDS best piston AR


AR-47 best piston AR


AR-47 is still faux DI
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Spreewerke
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Postby Spreewerke » Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:21 pm

Alternatively, you could just forgo the AR-based conversions entirely, use the Daewoo K2 that was purpose-built as a long-stroke piston 5.56 assault rifle (with many features borrowed from the FAL and AK), and experience maximum levels of grorious.
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Premislyd
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Postby Premislyd » Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:22 pm

Spreewerke wrote:Alternatively, you could just forgo the AR-based conversions entirely, use the Daewoo K2 that was purpose-built as a long-stroke piston 5.56 assault rifle (with many features borrowed from the FAL and AK), and experience maximum levels of grorious.


Or SG 550, or even FN FNC.
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Bezombia
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Postby Bezombia » Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:23 pm

Premislyd wrote:
Spreewerke wrote:Alternatively, you could just forgo the AR-based conversions entirely, use the Daewoo K2 that was purpose-built as a long-stroke piston 5.56 assault rifle (with many features borrowed from the FAL and AK), and experience maximum levels of grorious.


Or SG 550, or even FN FNC.


Or just use the AK-101.
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Nua Corda
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Postby Nua Corda » Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:26 pm

TAR-21 or Mossad will raep u in ur slp
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Bezombia
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Postby Bezombia » Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:26 pm

Nua Corda wrote:TAR-21 or Mossad will raep u in it slp


Galil ACE
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Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
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Premislyd
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Postby Premislyd » Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:28 pm

Bezombia wrote:
Premislyd wrote:
Or SG 550, or even FN FNC.


Or just use the AK-101.



Spreewerke wrote:Alternatively, you could just forgo the AR-based conversions entirely, use the Daewoo K2 that was purpose-built as a long-stroke piston 5.56 assault rifle (with many features borrowed from the FAL and AK), and experience maximum levels of grorious.
Just a heads up, I suffer from [insert stereotypical internet illness here], and will use it as an excuse instead of taking responsibility for my actions.
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Bezombia
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Postby Bezombia » Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:29 pm

Premislyd wrote:
Bezombia wrote:
Or just use the AK-101.



Spreewerke wrote:Alternatively, you could just forgo the AR-based conversions entirely, use the Daewoo K2 that was purpose-built as a long-stroke piston 5.56 assault rifle (with many features borrowed from the FAL and AK), and experience maximum levels of grorious.


The AK-101 is not based on the AR-15.
Our weary eyes still stray to the horizon...but down this road we've been so many times...
Please, call me Benomia. Post count +14623, founded Oct. 23, 2012.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies
I'm a poet. Come read my poems!

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Premislyd
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Postby Premislyd » Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:31 pm

Bezombia wrote:
Premislyd wrote:



The AK-101 is not based on the AR-15.


Allow me to further make the point I - and everybody else - was getting across.

Spreewerke wrote:purpose-built as a long-stroke piston 5.56 assault rifle

Spreewerke wrote:purpose-built as a long-stroke piston 5.56 assault rifle

Spreewerke wrote:purpose-built as a long-stroke piston 5.56 assault rifle
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Pimps Inc wrote:Swastikas are not allowed in nationstates unless your are RPing as Nazi Germany or sumthing

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Bezombia
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Postby Bezombia » Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:32 pm

Premislyd wrote:
Bezombia wrote:
The AK-101 is not based on the AR-15.


Allow me to further make the point I - and everybody else - was getting across.

Spreewerke wrote:purpose-built as a long-stroke piston 5.56 assault rifle

Spreewerke wrote:purpose-built as a long-stroke piston 5.56 assault rifle

Spreewerke wrote:purpose-built as a long-stroke piston 5.56 assault rifle


The HK416 isn't long stroke though, so that's not what the conversation started out as.
Our weary eyes still stray to the horizon...but down this road we've been so many times...
Please, call me Benomia. Post count +14623, founded Oct. 23, 2012.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies
I'm a poet. Come read my poems!

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Spreewerke
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Postby Spreewerke » Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:33 pm

Bezombia wrote:
Premislyd wrote:
Allow me to further make the point I - and everybody else - was getting across.





The HK416 isn't long stroke though, so that's not what the conversation started out as.



Corda mentioned the RRA PDS rifle, and its internals are nearly identical to the K2s in their general set-up and operation.

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Puzikas
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Postby Puzikas » Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:35 pm

I have no words.

Only tears.

And all a projectile that apparently weighs 98kg.
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Premislyd
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Postby Premislyd » Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:35 pm

Puzikas wrote:I have no words.

Only tears.

And all a projectile that apparently weighs 98kg.


such a slav
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Bezombia
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Postby Bezombia » Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:36 pm

Puzikas wrote:And all a projectile that apparently weighs 98kg.


On the bright side, I bet that 98kg projectile would kill people a lot.
Our weary eyes still stray to the horizon...but down this road we've been so many times...
Please, call me Benomia. Post count +14623, founded Oct. 23, 2012.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies
I'm a poet. Come read my poems!

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Black Hand
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Postby Black Hand » Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:38 pm

want to see me break IDT in 5 words?
I am Buying an AR-15

(that's not a lie)
Bezombia wrote:
Puzikas wrote:And all a projectile that apparently weighs 98kg.


On the bright side, I bet that 98kg projectile would kill people a lot.

Your ability to be obnoxious has not dampened.
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Nirvash Type TheEND
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:38 pm

This thread is way too silly tonight.
Unreachable.

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Spreewerke
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Postby Spreewerke » Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:41 pm

Black Hand wrote:want to see me break IDT in 5 words?
I am Buying an AR-15

(that's not a lie)
Bezombia wrote:
On the bright side, I bet that 98kg projectile would kill people a lot.

Your ability to be obnoxious has not dampened.



I think even more surprising would be the fact I have all the parts needed to make an SDM-R clone bookmarked on my browser.

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The balkens
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Postby The balkens » Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:42 pm

Spreewerke wrote:Alternatively, you could just forgo the AR-based conversions entirely, use the Daewoo K2 that was purpose-built as a long-stroke piston 5.56 assault rifle (with many features borrowed from the FAL and AK), and experience maximum levels of grorious.


I might add that, but the whole purpose is I wanted to make an export Weapon. :p


I could show you guys some other things I made like the God awful MG-5.
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Bezombia
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Postby Bezombia » Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:45 pm

Black Hand wrote:Your ability to be obnoxious has not dampened.


What? I'm not wrong.
Even if you assume a meek 2000 FPS at the muzzle, the round has an energy of 18,172,711 joules at fifty yards. Imagine how much that would fuck you up if you got shot point blank.
Last edited by Bezombia on Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:46 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Our weary eyes still stray to the horizon...but down this road we've been so many times...
Please, call me Benomia. Post count +14623, founded Oct. 23, 2012.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies
I'm a poet. Come read my poems!

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Spreewerke
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Postby Spreewerke » Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:46 pm

The balkens wrote:
Spreewerke wrote:Alternatively, you could just forgo the AR-based conversions entirely, use the Daewoo K2 that was purpose-built as a long-stroke piston 5.56 assault rifle (with many features borrowed from the FAL and AK), and experience maximum levels of grorious.


I might add that, but the whole purpose is I wanted to make an export Weapon. :p


I could show you guys some other things I made like the God awful MG-5.



The K2 uses STANAG magazines, M16 slings and bayonets, and it has AR/M16 ergonomics (save for the reciprocating charging handle at 3 o'clock). It also has the operating system and general reliability of the AK series mixed in with a little bit of FAL for its gas block and furniture/folding stock. Add that in with iron sights that are superior to the AR-15 in regards to accuracy and ease of use, and you've got a damn fine rifle.

Why it never became a widespread firearm is beyond me. It's a very solid design; much better than many, many other 5.56x45mm assault rifles one might find.

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Bezombia
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Postby Bezombia » Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:50 pm

Spreewerke wrote:
The balkens wrote:
I might add that, but the whole purpose is I wanted to make an export Weapon. :p


I could show you guys some other things I made like the God awful MG-5.



The K2 uses STANAG magazines, M16 slings and bayonets, and it has AR/M16 ergonomics (save for the reciprocating charging handle at 3 o'clock). It also has the operating system and general reliability of the AK series mixed in with a little bit of FAL for its gas block and furniture/folding stock. Add that in with iron sights that are superior to the AR-15 in regards to accuracy and ease of use, and you've got a damn fine rifle.

Why it never became a widespread firearm is beyond me. It's a very solid design; much better than many, many other 5.56x45mm assault rifles one might find.


Is there any reason you couldn't dress up a K2 in AR-15 clothing?
Our weary eyes still stray to the horizon...but down this road we've been so many times...
Please, call me Benomia. Post count +14623, founded Oct. 23, 2012.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies
I'm a poet. Come read my poems!

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Spreewerke
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Postby Spreewerke » Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:53 pm

Bezombia wrote:
Spreewerke wrote:

The K2 uses STANAG magazines, M16 slings and bayonets, and it has AR/M16 ergonomics (save for the reciprocating charging handle at 3 o'clock). It also has the operating system and general reliability of the AK series mixed in with a little bit of FAL for its gas block and furniture/folding stock. Add that in with iron sights that are superior to the AR-15 in regards to accuracy and ease of use, and you've got a damn fine rifle.

Why it never became a widespread firearm is beyond me. It's a very solid design; much better than many, many other 5.56x45mm assault rifles one might find.


Is there any reason you couldn't dress up a K2 in AR-15 clothing?



The fact it is a K2 and not an AR variant is usually what prevents that from happening. Post-ban DR200s can be set up with AR buffer tube adapters, though, like mine is. Quad-rails also exist, but they look a fair bit different than anything you'd see on an AR.

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Bezombia
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Postby Bezombia » Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:56 pm

Spreewerke wrote:
Bezombia wrote:
Is there any reason you couldn't dress up a K2 in AR-15 clothing?



The fact it is a K2 and not an AR variant is usually what prevents that from happening. Post-ban DR200s can be set up with AR buffer tube adapters, though, like mine is. Quad-rails also exist, but they look a fair bit different than anything you'd see on an AR.


I mean like taking the K2 operating system and placing it in an AR-15 receiver, similar to the G36 -> HK416
Our weary eyes still stray to the horizon...but down this road we've been so many times...
Please, call me Benomia. Post count +14623, founded Oct. 23, 2012.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies
I'm a poet. Come read my poems!

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Premislyd
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Postby Premislyd » Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:57 pm

Guards Airborne Section (Present-day)
Squad A
- Section leader (Sgt.; AK-107 w/ 1.6x optic, 1 x 200-round belt)
-LMGer/GPMGer (Pvt.; Type 88 (in 5.6x40) w/ 3.4 optic, 4 x 200 round belt (5.6x40mm))
-Assistant (Spc.; AK-107 w/ 1.6 optic, 2 x 200-round belt)
-DMR (Pvt.; SVU w/ 6x optic)
Squad B
-Squad leader/Section SiC (Jr. Sgt.; AK-107 w/1.6 optic, 2 x 5.8 cm rifle grenade)
-Grenadier (Pvt.; AK-107 w/ grenade leaf sights, 4 x 5.8 cm rifle grenade)
-Grenadier (PFC.; AK-107 w/ grenade leaf sights, 4 x 5.8 cm rifle grenade)
-"Anti-tank" soldier (Pvt./PFC.; AK-107 w/ 1.6 optic, RPG-22)

They're assigned two notBMD-3s for transport and stuff. They also keep some extra RPG-22s in it.
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Spreewerke
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Postby Spreewerke » Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:01 pm

Bezombia wrote:
Spreewerke wrote:

The fact it is a K2 and not an AR variant is usually what prevents that from happening. Post-ban DR200s can be set up with AR buffer tube adapters, though, like mine is. Quad-rails also exist, but they look a fair bit different than anything you'd see on an AR.


I mean like taking the K2 operating system and placing it in an AR-15 receiver, similar to the G36 -> HK416



...which would be very similar to the RRA PDS, as mentioned earlier.

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