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Who should begin the next thread?

San-Silvacian
8
9%
Purpelia
7
8%
Beno
10
11%
Puzikas
20
22%
Kouralia
5
5%
The Archangel Conglomerate:
8
9%
Immoren
4
4%
Premislyd
10
11%
Anemos Major
15
16%
The Akasha Colony
4
4%
 
Total votes : 91

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Fordorsia
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Postby Fordorsia » Tue Mar 11, 2014 5:59 pm

Black Hand wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:
It kind of has to be a monster to take down NotCarnifexes.

What kind of carnifex are we talking about? the wasp, Crab or Weird cat thingy?
wait it's the 40K thing isn't it?


Yup. Me Ulfr and Tsavon haven't really discussed the large examples of Nathi that much, but NotCarnifexes are pretty much what I imagine them as. That rifle is Fordorsia's answer to their appearance during the Deep War.

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30x200mm Armour-Piercing Fragmentation is glory.
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Pro: Swords
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San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

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Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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Postby Bezombia » Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:01 pm

Fordorsia wrote:
Black Hand wrote:What kind of carnifex are we talking about? the wasp, Crab or Weird cat thingy?
wait it's the 40K thing isn't it?


Yup. Me Ulfr and Tsavon haven't really discussed the large examples of Nathi that much, but NotCarnifexes are pretty much what I imagine them as. That rifle is Fordorsia's answer to their appearance during the Deep War.

Image

30x200mm Armour-Piercing Fragmentation is glory.


Needs more suppressed variants
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Postby Fordorsia » Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:03 pm

Bezombia wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:
Yup. Me Ulfr and Tsavon haven't really discussed the large examples of Nathi that much, but NotCarnifexes are pretty much what I imagine them as. That rifle is Fordorsia's answer to their appearance during the Deep War.

(Image)

30x200mm Armour-Piercing Fragmentation is glory.


Needs more suppressed variants


I believe you and everyone near will be dead before the sound reaches you.
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Pro: Swords
Anti: Guns

San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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Bezombia
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Postby Bezombia » Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:04 pm

Fordorsia wrote:
Bezombia wrote:
Needs more suppressed variants


I believe you and everyone near will be dead before the sound reaches you.


Better yet: Version similar to VAL/MP5SD3 where it's a really long suppressor with ports in the whole thing
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Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies
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Postby Fordorsia » Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:05 pm

Bezombia wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:
I believe you and everyone near will be dead before the sound reaches you.


Better yet: Version similar to VAL/MP5SD3 where it's a really long suppressor with ports in the whole thing


But why.
Pro: Swords
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San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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Bezombia
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Postby Bezombia » Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:06 pm

Fordorsia wrote:
Bezombia wrote:
Better yet: Version similar to VAL/MP5SD3 where it's a really long suppressor with ports in the whole thing


But why.


"Special" operations
Special "operations"
"Special operations"


You choose
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Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies
I'm a poet. Come read my poems!

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Dat cua Tien
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Postby Dat cua Tien » Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:07 pm

Fordorsia wrote:
Bezombia wrote:
Better yet: Version similar to VAL/MP5SD3 where it's a really long suppressor with ports in the whole thing


But why.


Everyone knows you need a 30mm for subsonic deer hunting.

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Premislyd
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Postby Premislyd » Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:09 pm

The Republic of Lanos wrote:Also, who uses what for their AT stuff?


FAC-75 - 84mm recoilless rifle
AC-86 - 105mm disposable anti-tank rocket
AC-86D - 105mm anti-tank rocket
MAC74A - 135mm anti-tank, guided missile
MAT74C - 130mm anti-tank, guided missile
FN LAAC-2000 - 150mm disposable anti-tank, guided missile
FN LAAC-98 - 127mm, fire-and-forget, anti-tank guided missile
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Fordorsia
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Postby Fordorsia » Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:10 pm

Bezombia wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:
But why.


"Special" operations
Special "operations"
"Special operations"


You choose


Well it's still in use today for super long range anti-materiel duties. Still, suppressors or poop, so no.
Pro: Swords
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San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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Nua Corda
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Postby Nua Corda » Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:13 pm

Image

The beginnings of the modernization for Rollerpup.

Thoughts?
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Postby Fordorsia » Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:15 pm

Nua Corda wrote:(Image)

The beginnings of the modernization for Rollerpup.

Thoughts?


Should have de-bullpup'd it. That's clearly the best way to modernize a rifle.
Pro: Swords
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San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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Nua Corda
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Postby Nua Corda » Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:17 pm

Fordorsia wrote:
Nua Corda wrote:(Image)

The beginnings of the modernization for Rollerpup.

Thoughts?


Should have de-bullpup'd it. That's clearly the best way to modernize a rifle.


I wasn't aware it was opposite day :D
Call me Corda.
Sarcasm Warning! This post may not be entirely serious
Bullpups, Keymod and Magpul, oh my!
Bong Hits for Jesus!
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Dat cua Tien
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Postby Dat cua Tien » Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:18 pm

Nua Corda wrote:(Image)

The beginnings of the modernization for Rollerpup.

Thoughts?


one does not simply keymod without a reduced diameter rail >:(

personally I'd extend the rail forward and use a folding picatinny sight

and then, you know, have everyone throw their thumbs over the forend.

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Postby Fordorsia » Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:19 pm

Nua Corda wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:
Should have de-bullpup'd it. That's clearly the best way to modernize a rifle.


I wasn't aware it was opposite day :D


Are there even bullpup rifles that have been de-bullpup'd? I want to look, but I don't know what to search for.
Pro: Swords
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San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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Nua Corda
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Postby Nua Corda » Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:21 pm

Dat cua Tien wrote:
Nua Corda wrote:(Image)

The beginnings of the modernization for Rollerpup.

Thoughts?


one does not simply keymod without a reduced diameter rail >:(

personally I'd extend the rail forward and use a folding picatinny sight

and then, you know, have everyone throw their thumbs over the forend.


The barrel is actually going the be shortened. It's a ~20" right now, and that really isn't necessary. And don't worry, all of the flip-up BUIS will be incorporated. soon....

Fordorsia wrote:
Nua Corda wrote:
I wasn't aware it was opposite day :D


Are there even bullpup rifles that have been de-bullpup'd? I want to look, but I don't know what to search for.


Why would you go backwards? That's like asking if there are any cars which have been converted to be horse-drawn.
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Dat cua Tien
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Postby Dat cua Tien » Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:28 pm

Any reason why I couldn't use a reusable RPG-7-esque launcher, but the rockets having RPG-76 style motors? The only thing I thought of was it would throw balance off a little bit without needing a tube to go over the shoulder, but I doubt the large warheads for the RPG-7 are balanced anyways, and the tube on the shoulder wouldn't have much weight to begin with so I had discredited the concern.

Nua Corda wrote:
Why would you go backwards? That's like asking if there are any cars which have been converted to be horse-drawn.


or a 383 in a Mustang :p

love me the LS though

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Postby The balkens » Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:31 pm

Nua Corda wrote:(Image)

The beginnings of the modernization for Rollerpup.

Thoughts?


Looks strong like liver....

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Postby Fordorsia » Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:33 pm

Nua Corda wrote:
Dat cua Tien wrote:
one does not simply keymod without a reduced diameter rail >:(

personally I'd extend the rail forward and use a folding picatinny sight

and then, you know, have everyone throw their thumbs over the forend.


The barrel is actually going the be shortened. It's a ~20" right now, and that really isn't necessary. And don't worry, all of the flip-up BUIS will be incorporated. soon....

Fordorsia wrote:
Are there even bullpup rifles that have been de-bullpup'd? I want to look, but I don't know what to search for.


Why would you go backwards? That's like asking if there are any cars which have been converted to be horse-drawn.


Everything can go backwards.
Image
Everything.
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San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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Postby The balkens » Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:41 pm

Fordorsia wrote:
Nua Corda wrote:
The barrel is actually going the be shortened. It's a ~20" right now, and that really isn't necessary. And don't worry, all of the flip-up BUIS will be incorporated. soon....



Why would you go backwards? That's like asking if there are any cars which have been converted to be horse-drawn.


Everything can go backwards.
Image
Everything.


If I recall, some people still use muskets for hunting. Not like the old Kentucky rifle or the Bess but a "modern" musket, scope and all.

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Postby Sevvania » Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:42 pm

Fordorsia wrote:
Nua Corda wrote:
I wasn't aware it was opposite day :D


Are there even bullpup rifles that have been de-bullpup'd? I want to look, but I don't know what to search for.

The PMG group on Flickr has a few examples, although not all seem to be mechanically feasible.
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San-Silvacian
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Postby San-Silvacian » Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:51 pm

wanna see a proper epic bullpup?

Image

viva la france fgts
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Postby Premislyd » Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:54 pm

San-Silvacian wrote:wanna see a proper epic bullpup?

(Image)

viva la france fgts


Probably the gayest thing I've ever seen, tbh. :shock: :shock:
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Postby San-Silvacian » Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:56 pm

Premislyd wrote:
San-Silvacian wrote:wanna see a proper epic bullpup?

(Image)

viva la france fgts


Probably the gayest thing I've ever seen, tbh. :shock: :shock:


u shud look in a mirror sometiem then
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Postby Anemos Major » Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:56 pm

San-Silvacian wrote:wanna see a proper epic bullpup?

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viva la france fgts


Viva la France? Excuse me? :I

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Postby The balkens » Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:56 pm

Premislyd wrote:
San-Silvacian wrote:wanna see a proper epic bullpup?

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viva la france fgts


Probably the gayest thing I've ever seen, tbh. :shock: :shock:


I hear its the service rifle for the west Hollywood army! :p

Seriously, looks alright.

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