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San-Silvacian
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Purpelia
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Beno
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Puzikas
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22%
Kouralia
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5%
The Archangel Conglomerate:
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Immoren
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Premislyd
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11%
Anemos Major
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The Akasha Colony
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Postby Black Hand » Fri May 30, 2014 8:22 pm

Bulgaria-Serbia wrote:Would the M72 LAW be a decent cheap standard issue AT weapon for every soldier

Don't expect it to be used against tanks really though. APC's, Armored cars, and structures are going to be the primary targets.
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Postby Bulgaria-Serbia » Fri May 30, 2014 8:25 pm

Black Hand wrote:
Bulgaria-Serbia wrote:Would the M72 LAW be a decent cheap standard issue AT weapon for every soldier

Don't expect it to be used against tanks really though. APC's, Armored cars, and structures are going to be the primary targets.

I'm not expecting it to go up against MBTs(maybe a T55 every now and then XD) it's just to give my soldiers a lightweight personal package of firepower when needed

Also would the Kukri be a good standard issue combat knife?
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Postby Tule » Fri May 30, 2014 8:36 pm

Bulgaria-Serbia wrote:
Black Hand wrote:Don't expect it to be used against tanks really though. APC's, Armored cars, and structures are going to be the primary targets.

I'm not expecting it to go up against MBTs(maybe a T55 every now and then XD) it's just to give my soldiers a lightweight personal package of firepower when needed

Also would the Kukri be a good standard issue combat knife?
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Sure, but it's not going to be a great utility knife.
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Postby Bulgaria-Serbia » Fri May 30, 2014 8:38 pm

Tule wrote:
Bulgaria-Serbia wrote:I'm not expecting it to go up against MBTs(maybe a T55 every now and then XD) it's just to give my soldiers a lightweight personal package of firepower when needed

Also would the Kukri be a good standard issue combat knife?
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Sure, but it's not going to be a great utility knife.

But that's not its purpose is it, considering its a 100 year old design, the makers of which were the legendary Gurkhas
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Postby Zeinbrad » Fri May 30, 2014 8:39 pm

Bulgaria-Serbia wrote:
Black Hand wrote:Don't expect it to be used against tanks really though. APC's, Armored cars, and structures are going to be the primary targets.

I'm not expecting it to go up against MBTs(maybe a T55 every now and then XD) it's just to give my soldiers a lightweight personal package of firepower when needed

Also would the Kukri be a good standard issue combat knife?
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If your troops are using knives in combat, the situation is beyond fucked.

At least,that's what I would think.
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Postby Bulgaria-Serbia » Fri May 30, 2014 8:41 pm

Zeinbrad wrote:
Bulgaria-Serbia wrote:I'm not expecting it to go up against MBTs(maybe a T55 every now and then XD) it's just to give my soldiers a lightweight personal package of firepower when needed

Also would the Kukri be a good standard issue combat knife?
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If your troops are using knives in combat, the situation is beyond fucked.

At least,that's what I would think.

And when has a soldier never carried a good knife?
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Postby Zachganistan » Fri May 30, 2014 8:42 pm

Zeinbrad wrote:
Bulgaria-Serbia wrote:I'm not expecting it to go up against MBTs(maybe a T55 every now and then XD) it's just to give my soldiers a lightweight personal package of firepower when needed

Also would the Kukri be a good standard issue combat knife?
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If your troops are using knives in combat, the situation is beyond fucked.

At least,that's what I would think.

Unless they deal eith urban warfare a lot. Closed-in apartments make it hard to pull up a carbine or shotgun. The kukri would be pretty good for combat and fear fractor, but it's not useful for anything else, unlike the M-9 bayonet.
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Postby Zeinbrad » Fri May 30, 2014 8:43 pm

Bulgaria-Serbia wrote:
Zeinbrad wrote:If your troops are using knives in combat, the situation is beyond fucked.

At least,that's what I would think.

And when has a soldier never carried a good knife?

Here's the thing.

Their utility, multipurpose, not dedicated combat knives.

But I'm not an expert.
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Fri May 30, 2014 8:43 pm

Zachganistan wrote:
Zeinbrad wrote:If your troops are using knives in combat, the situation is beyond fucked.

At least,that's what I would think.

Unless they deal eith urban warfare a lot. Closed-in apartments make it hard to pull up a carbine or shotgun. The kukri would be pretty good for combat and fear fractor, but it's not useful for anything else, unlike the M-9 bayonet.


If close in expecting enemy contact, you're weapon should always be at the ready. As stated, if your using a blade of any sort, the shit has beyond hit the fan.
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Postby Bulgaria-Serbia » Fri May 30, 2014 8:45 pm

Zachganistan wrote:
Zeinbrad wrote:If your troops are using knives in combat, the situation is beyond fucked.

At least,that's what I would think.

Unless they deal eith urban warfare a lot. Closed-in apartments make it hard to pull up a carbine or shotgun. The kukri would be pretty good for combat and fear fractor, but it's not useful for anything else, unlike the M-9 bayonet.

It also has a reach advantage, meaning you don't need to be as close as you do with say the K Bar or trench knife
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Fri May 30, 2014 8:46 pm

Nothing wrong with Kukri. The only functionality you're really missing is spinal serrations.
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Postby Bulgaria-Serbia » Fri May 30, 2014 8:47 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Zachganistan wrote:Unless they deal eith urban warfare a lot. Closed-in apartments make it hard to pull up a carbine or shotgun. The kukri would be pretty good for combat and fear fractor, but it's not useful for anything else, unlike the M-9 bayonet.


If close in expecting enemy contact, you're weapon should always be at the ready. As stated, if your using a blade of any sort, the shit has beyond hit the fan.

Or your being sneaky :)
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Postby Zeinbrad » Fri May 30, 2014 8:48 pm

Bulgaria-Serbia wrote:
Zachganistan wrote:Unless they deal eith urban warfare a lot. Closed-in apartments make it hard to pull up a carbine or shotgun. The kukri would be pretty good for combat and fear fractor, but it's not useful for anything else, unlike the M-9 bayonet.

It also has a reach advantage, meaning you don't need to be as close as you do with say the K Bar or trench knife

Here's the thing.

Why are you trying to kill someone with a knife when you can just shoot the bastard?
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Postby Zachganistan » Fri May 30, 2014 8:48 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Zachganistan wrote:Unless they deal eith urban warfare a lot. Closed-in apartments make it hard to pull up a carbine or shotgun. The kukri would be pretty good for combat and fear fractor, but it's not useful for anything else, unlike the M-9 bayonet.


If close in expecting enemy contact, you're weapon should always be at the ready. As stated, if your using a blade of any sort, the shit has beyond hit the fan.

I understand what you are saying, but you are assuming that the soldier can ready his weapon at all. Even in my moderate sized apartment, I've had to lower and raise my airsoft weapons repeatedly to walk through it. Having a knife out increases the speed in which you can react to a situation.
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Postby Zachganistan » Fri May 30, 2014 8:48 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:Nothing wrong with Kukri. The only functionality you're really missing is spinal serrations.

What is the purpose of spine serrations on a knife? I've never understood that.
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Postby Black Hand » Fri May 30, 2014 8:50 pm

Zachganistan wrote:
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:Nothing wrong with Kukri. The only functionality you're really missing is spinal serrations.

What is the purpose of spine serrations on a knife? I've never understood that.

non serrated blades make terrible saws. and sawblade serrations only muck up a perfectly good knife if used on the main blade.
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Puzikas wrote:You clearly don't know about the baby bald eagle built into each one.
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Why is there a "joke option" included in the poll when "yes" is already there?

Fordorsia wrote:Sight rib? Like a barbecue?

Fordorsia wrote:Why sell the restored weapons when you can keep them in a military-themed sex dungeon?

San-Silvacian wrote:Nothing says I love you like a fine Belgian firearm.

Bezombia wrote: "glorious discharge"

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Postby Bulgaria-Serbia » Fri May 30, 2014 8:50 pm

Zachganistan wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
If close in expecting enemy contact, you're weapon should always be at the ready. As stated, if your using a blade of any sort, the shit has beyond hit the fan.

I understand what you are saying, but you are assuming that the soldier can ready his weapon at all. Even in my moderate sized apartment, I've had to lower and raise my airsoft weapons repeatedly to walk through it. Having a knife out increases the speed in which you can react to a situation.

Which is why knives have never been made obsolete
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Postby Zachganistan » Fri May 30, 2014 8:52 pm

Black Hand wrote:
Zachganistan wrote:What is the purpose of spine serrations on a knife? I've never understood that.

non serrated blades make terrible saws. and sawblade serrations only muck up a perfectly good knife if used on the main blade.

Makes sense for survival knives. Wouldn't it hinder the speed of which a soldier could pull the knife out of a body, though? That kind of close combat requires quick responses.
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Fri May 30, 2014 8:53 pm

Zachganistan wrote:
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:Nothing wrong with Kukri. The only functionality you're really missing is spinal serrations.

What is the purpose of spine serrations on a knife? I've never understood that.

Cutting straps and rope.
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Postby Black Hand » Fri May 30, 2014 8:55 pm

Zachganistan wrote:
Black Hand wrote:non serrated blades make terrible saws. and sawblade serrations only muck up a perfectly good knife if used on the main blade.

Makes sense for survival knives. Wouldn't it hinder the speed of which a soldier could pull the knife out of a body, though? That kind of close combat requires quick responses.

No. As someone who has pulled a spine serrated knife from a body (not a human one, but rather a turkey) no.

@nirvash, sawblade serrations aren't good for that, with rope cutting the more scalloped the serrations the better sawtooth is bad while somewhat wide Scalloped serrations are excellent.
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Puzikas wrote:You clearly don't know about the baby bald eagle built into each one.
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Why is there a "joke option" included in the poll when "yes" is already there?

Fordorsia wrote:Sight rib? Like a barbecue?

Fordorsia wrote:Why sell the restored weapons when you can keep them in a military-themed sex dungeon?

San-Silvacian wrote:Nothing says I love you like a fine Belgian firearm.

Bezombia wrote: "glorious discharge"

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Postby Bulgaria-Serbia » Fri May 30, 2014 8:56 pm

You do have to consider that the tribe the Kukri originated from, who had no guns, we're able to impress the British army with the weapon and their combat skills in fighting against the british
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Fri May 30, 2014 8:57 pm

Bulgaria-Serbia wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
If close in expecting enemy contact, you're weapon should always be at the ready. As stated, if your using a blade of any sort, the shit has beyond hit the fan.

Or your being sneaky :)


Suppressor and sub sonic ammo would accomplish this, without silly complications like making sure your opponent doesn't call for help after being stabbed....

Zachganistan wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
If close in expecting enemy contact, you're weapon should always be at the ready. As stated, if your using a blade of any sort, the shit has beyond hit the fan.

I understand what you are saying, but you are assuming that the soldier can ready his weapon at all. Even in my moderate sized apartment, I've had to lower and raise my airsoft weapons repeatedly to walk through it. Having a knife out increases the speed in which you can react to a situation.


As a former CQB instructor, your weapon should always be at either the high or low ready, when clearing a unknown building.

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Postby Zeinbrad » Fri May 30, 2014 8:58 pm

Bulgaria-Serbia wrote:You do have to consider that the tribe the Kukri originated from, who had no guns, we're able to impress the British army with the weapon and their combat skills in fighting against the british

That's the people using the weapon, not the weapon itself.
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Postby Zachganistan » Fri May 30, 2014 8:59 pm

Bulgaria-Serbia wrote:You do have to consider that the tribe the Kukri originated from, who had no guns, we're able to impress the British army with the weapon and their combat skills in fighting against the british

Indeed. But that is from about 80 years ago and CQB has changed drastically. In all, if you could shorten the Kukri by an inch or two to make it a wee bit mo0re practical for urban enviroments, you would be golden for a fighting knife. But in practicality, most soldiers use their fighting knoves as utlity knives as well, which is impossible with the Kukri.
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Postby Bulgaria-Serbia » Fri May 30, 2014 9:01 pm

Zachganistan wrote:
Bulgaria-Serbia wrote:You do have to consider that the tribe the Kukri originated from, who had no guns, we're able to impress the British army with the weapon and their combat skills in fighting against the british

Indeed. But that is from about 80 years ago and CQB has changed drastically. In all, if you could shorten the Kukri by an inch or two to make it a wee bit mo0re practical for urban enviroments, you would be golden for a fighting knife. But in practicality, most soldiers use their fighting knoves as utlity knives as well, which is impossible with the Kukri.

It can be used as a machete too, has the length
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