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San-Silvacian
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9%
Purpelia
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8%
Beno
10
11%
Puzikas
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22%
Kouralia
5
5%
The Archangel Conglomerate:
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9%
Immoren
4
4%
Premislyd
10
11%
Anemos Major
15
16%
The Akasha Colony
4
4%
 
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Postby Spreewerke » Fri May 30, 2014 2:00 pm

Bulgaria-Serbia wrote:Also, what would be an effective but cheap body armor set



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Postby 3 State Alliance » Fri May 30, 2014 2:02 pm

Spreewerke wrote:
Bulgaria-Serbia wrote:Also, what would be an effective but cheap body armor set



Phone books ducktaped to the torso.

I was going to ask if he'd seen "A Few Dollars More"...
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:Edit:
Those old cold war era flack vests are pretty good with the right plates installed...
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Postby Bezombia » Fri May 30, 2014 2:06 pm

Bulgaria-Serbia wrote:Also, what would be an effective but cheap body armor set


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Postby Crookfur » Fri May 30, 2014 2:14 pm

Bulgaria-Serbia wrote:Also, what would be an effective but cheap body armor set


that largely depends on how your military woudl define cheap and more importantly how they would define effective

Cheapest is proabably a chinese knock off of the PASGT vest/helmet set, it won't stop rifle threats but it'll do the job against most types of frag.
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Postby Bulgaria-Serbia » Fri May 30, 2014 2:17 pm

Crookfur wrote:
Bulgaria-Serbia wrote:Also, what would be an effective but cheap body armor set


that largely depends on how your military woudl define cheap and more importantly how they would define effective

Cheapest is proabably a chinese knock off of the PASGT vest/helmet set, it won't stop rifle threats but it'll do the job against most types of frag.

I mean as in the biggest protection for my buck, I'm looking to armor 250,000 troops out of a population of 5 million
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Postby Spreewerke » Fri May 30, 2014 2:21 pm

Bulgaria-Serbia wrote:
Crookfur wrote:
that largely depends on how your military woudl define cheap and more importantly how they would define effective

Cheapest is proabably a chinese knock off of the PASGT vest/helmet set, it won't stop rifle threats but it'll do the job against most types of frag.

I mean as in the biggest protection for my buck, I'm looking to armor 250,000 troops out of a population of 5 million



Any ties to former Soviets/Commies or NATO?

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Postby Premislyd » Fri May 30, 2014 2:22 pm

Telling your soldiers to find cover when they're getting shot at is pretty cheap.
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Postby The Archangel Conglomerate » Fri May 30, 2014 2:23 pm

Premislyd wrote:Telling your soldiers to find cover when they're getting shot at is pretty cheap.

This. Combine with Chinese PASGT knock off and you're golden.
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Postby Bulgaria-Serbia » Fri May 30, 2014 2:24 pm

Spreewerke wrote:
Bulgaria-Serbia wrote:I mean as in the biggest protection for my buck, I'm looking to armor 250,000 troops out of a population of 5 million



Any ties to former Soviets/Commies or NATO?

Russia and Poland
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Postby Gvozdevsk » Fri May 30, 2014 2:24 pm

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Bulgaria-Serbia wrote:Is the G36K a good weapon for standard issue or should I look elsewhere (Image)



I noticed you are "Bulgaria-Serbia". Why not use a Bulgarian AK in 5.56x45mm or 7.62x39mm (or even 5.45x39mm)?


http://rogueadventurer.files.wordpress. ... =640&h=960

Zastava M21 is another solid choice for sticking with the Bulgaria/Serbia theme.

Bulgaria-Serbia wrote:I mean as in the biggest protection for my buck, I'm looking to armor 250,000 troops out of a population of 5 million


5% of your population is in the army. You can't afford body armour. You'll be lucky to give every second guy a steel helmet and a Mosin Nagant.

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Postby Zeinbrad » Fri May 30, 2014 2:26 pm

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Zeinbrad wrote:So, two questions I will try to not overstay my welcome.

One-What should a Combat Medic kit (EMT-B) compose of?

Tourniquet
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Gloves (Vinyl in a sealed condom-esque pouch)
Surgical tape
Larynxal breathing tube (whatever it's actually called)
Burn Dressing

Thank you!

Also, going to have the Wolfe either use a G3 Laser Rifle or a Heckler & Koch G11.
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Postby Spreewerke » Fri May 30, 2014 2:26 pm

Bulgaria-Serbia wrote:
Spreewerke wrote:

Any ties to former Soviets/Commies or NATO?

Russia and Poland



You should be able to get a ton of surplus crap for cheap/free/handies.

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Postby Premislyd » Fri May 30, 2014 2:27 pm

Gvozdevsk wrote:5% of your population is in the army. You can't afford body armour. You'll be lucky to give every second guy a steel helmet and a Mosin Nagant.


This rule is still a thing?
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Postby The Archangel Conglomerate » Fri May 30, 2014 2:27 pm

Gvozdevsk wrote:5% of your population is in the army. You can't afford body armour. You'll be lucky to give every second guy a steel helmet and a Mosin Nagant.

Probably not that bad, although I don't think you'd see much past a Kalash and a few mags per trooper.
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Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:For want of lances, the heavy equipment never reached the field.

For want of heavy equipment the platoons FOs could direct no HMGs.

For want of HMGs, the Archians had to rely on shitty fucking microcalibers.

For want of real weapons, they lost the war.

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Postby Premislyd » Fri May 30, 2014 2:28 pm

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:
Gvozdevsk wrote:5% of your population is in the army. You can't afford body armour. You'll be lucky to give every second guy a steel helmet and a Mosin Nagant.

Probably not that bad, although I don't think you'd see much past a Kalash and a few mags per trooper.


Why? You don't know thon's country's industrial output, industrial capacity, etc. etc.
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Postby 3 State Alliance » Fri May 30, 2014 2:30 pm

Premislyd wrote:
The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:Probably not that bad, although I don't think you'd see much past a Kalash and a few mags per trooper.


Why? You don't know thon's country's industrial output, industrial capacity, etc. etc.

And I've seen a lot crazier numbers in International Incidents...
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Postby The Archangel Conglomerate » Fri May 30, 2014 2:31 pm

Premislyd wrote:Why? You don't know thon's country's industrial output, industrial capacity, etc. etc.

True. However, I can guess that both are rather low due to the large percentage of the population doing little more than looking scary and drawing a paycheck.
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Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:For want of lances, the heavy equipment never reached the field.

For want of heavy equipment the platoons FOs could direct no HMGs.

For want of HMGs, the Archians had to rely on shitty fucking microcalibers.

For want of real weapons, they lost the war.

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Postby Bulgaria-Serbia » Fri May 30, 2014 2:32 pm

Premislyd wrote:
The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:Probably not that bad, although I don't think you'd see much past a Kalash and a few mags per trooper.


Why? You don't know thon's country's industrial output, industrial capacity, etc. etc.


I am not in a bad economy, just trying to maximise the amount of spare budget left over, my Military budget is about $7.8 billion
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Postby Premislyd » Fri May 30, 2014 2:34 pm

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:
Premislyd wrote:Why? You don't know thon's country's industrial output, industrial capacity, etc. etc.

True. However, I can guess that both are rather low due to the large percentage of the population doing little more than looking scary and drawing a paycheck.


Well it's a poor guess when you know nothing aside from "5% of the population* in the military"

*you don't even know the population
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Postby 3 State Alliance » Fri May 30, 2014 2:34 pm

Bulgaria-Serbia wrote:
Premislyd wrote:
Why? You don't know thon's country's industrial output, industrial capacity, etc. etc.


I am not in a bad economy, just trying to maximise the amount of spare budget left over, my Military budget is about $7.8 billion

A used flack vest with steel plates would be cheap but not too effective against most modern rounds
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Postby Bulgaria-Serbia » Fri May 30, 2014 2:36 pm

3 State Alliance wrote:
Bulgaria-Serbia wrote:
I am not in a bad economy, just trying to maximise the amount of spare budget left over, my Military budget is about $7.8 billion

A used flack vest with steel plates would be cheap but not too effective against most modern rounds

The American tactical vest from Vietnam maybe?
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Postby Gvozdevsk » Fri May 30, 2014 2:39 pm

Premislyd wrote:
The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:True. However, I can guess that both are rather low due to the large percentage of the population doing little more than looking scary and drawing a paycheck.


Well it's a poor guess when you know nothing aside from "5% of the population* in the military"

*you don't even know the population

He said "250,000 troops out of a population of 5 million."

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Postby Crookfur » Fri May 30, 2014 2:43 pm

Bulgaria-Serbia wrote:
3 State Alliance wrote:A used flack vest with steel plates would be cheap but not too effective against most modern rounds

The American tactical vest from Vietnam maybe?


PASGT is better, more modern, has a alrger user base and more importantly actually in production.

So unless you are actually buying the vests in the 1970s or are buying soemone's horded surplus (which would be odd as surplus PASGT would be easier to get hold of) you won;t be getting any useful number of M69 vests
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Postby Premislyd » Fri May 30, 2014 2:44 pm

Gvozdevsk wrote:
Premislyd wrote:
Well it's a poor guess when you know nothing aside from "5% of the population* in the military"

*you don't even know the population

He said "250,000 troops out of a population of 5 million."


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Postby Bulgaria-Serbia » Fri May 30, 2014 2:45 pm

Crookfur wrote:
Bulgaria-Serbia wrote:The American tactical vest from Vietnam maybe?


PASGT is better, more modern, has a alrger user base and more importantly actually in production.

So unless you are actually buying the vests in the 1970s or are buying soemone's horded surplus (which would be odd as surplus PASGT would be easier to get hold of) you won;t be getting any useful number of M69 vests

I mean the M1955 flak vest
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