The NS Infantry Discussion Thread MkII*

[San-Silvacian]

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wow no fals are best aa guns 7.62x51 fucks everything up

[Dat cua Tien]

What are your troops issued for rain gear, especially for the more tropical or monsoonal climates out there? video relevant I'm thinking something along the lines of footed waterproof tyvek overalls, or an NBC suit without the capabilities. Breathability would be poor, but if it's either that or gangrene... A footed version would require two boots (one connected to the suit, and one for use without the suit,) but what else would be my options? That seems world's better than parkas, at which point I have to ask why IRL armies don't do something similar.

[Premislyd]

What are your troops issued for rain gear, especially for the more tropical or monsoonal climates out there? video relevant I'm thinking something along the lines of footed waterproof tyvek overalls, or an NBC suit without the capabilities. Breathability would be poor, but if it's either that or gangrene... A footed version would require two boots (one connected to the suit, and one for use without the suit,) but what else would be my options? That seems world's better than parkas, at which point I have to ask why IRL armies don't do something similar.

A few extra pairs of socks.

wow no fals are best aa guns 7.62x51 fucks everything up

soz it's not an EM-2 or .280 british

[New Tsavon]

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Your nation's military has successfully deployed combat units to Mars. How are they equipped?

Needs more Mars-pattern Rhodie camo.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

What are your troops issued for rain gear, especially for the more tropical or monsoonal climates out there? video relevant I'm thinking something along the lines of footed waterproof tyvek overalls, or an NBC suit without the capabilities. Breathability would be poor, but if it's either that or gangrene... A footed version would require two boots (one connected to the suit, and one for use without the suit,) but what else would be my options? That seems world's better than parkas, at which point I have to ask why IRL armies don't do something similar.

Disposable plastic ponchos with buttons to form pseudo sleeves to aid in operational mobility.

[Triplebaconation]

post losses

[Aqizithiuda]

What are your troops issued for rain gear, especially for the more tropical or monsoonal climates out there? video relevant I'm thinking something along the lines of footed waterproof tyvek overalls, or an NBC suit without the capabilities. Breathability would be poor, but if it's either that or gangrene... A footed version would require two boots (one connected to the suit, and one for use without the suit,) but what else would be my options? That seems world's better than parkas, at which point I have to ask why IRL armies don't do something similar.

Jungle boots and a poncho, although Trigg has never actually been in a situation where they needed to acquire any of the boots.

[New Visegrad]

As to concerns of modern weaponry not working on Mars, I really can't see it being that bad. Dusty as anything, sure, but I can't really see that stopping a Kalashnikov, or a G3, or even a properly maintained M16.

Mars dust is a lot more airborne, since there's no moisture (and less gravity) to keep it down. Plus, dust-storms.
Also, heat expansion is a bit of a concern since it gets pretty cold and there's less atmosphere for heat to disperse into.

[Immoren]

What are your troops issued for rain gear, especially for the more tropical or monsoonal climates out there? video relevant I'm thinking something along the lines of footed waterproof tyvek overalls, or an NBC suit without the capabilities. Breathability would be poor, but if it's either that or gangrene... A footed version would require two boots (one connected to the suit, and one for use without the suit,) but what else would be my options? That seems world's better than parkas, at which point I have to ask why IRL armies don't do something similar.

[Premislyd]

Regarding firearms, how likely would a steel-reinforced poylmer bolt and other internals be to break under fire? I know the Heckle and Cock G36 has mostly polymer internals (carbon-fiber reinforced though, iirc) but still has a few problems regarding accuracy.

[Aqizithiuda]

Regarding firearms, how likely would a steel-reinforced poylmer bolt and other internals be to break under fire? I know the Heckle and Cock G36 has mostly polymer internals (carbon-fiber reinforced though, iirc) but still has a few problems regarding accuracy.

I would say pretty likely. There's a reason heat treated steel bolts are still used.

[Premislyd]

Regarding firearms, how likely would a steel-reinforced poylmer bolt and other internals be to break under fire? I know the Heckle and Cock G36 has mostly polymer internals (carbon-fiber reinforced though, iirc) but still has a few problems regarding accuracy.

I would say pretty likely. There's a reason heat treated steel bolts are still used.

Yeah. That's what I kind of figured.

Oh well.

[Fordorsia]

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Words do not describe how much I want this.

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As to concerns of modern weaponry not working on Mars, I really can't see it being that bad. Dusty as anything, sure, but I can't really see that stopping a Kalashnikov, or a G3, or even a properly maintained M16.

Martian dust is a fine as shit, everywhere, and a good part of it is always airborne. No conventional firearm would stand a chance.

You'd need to clean, and maybe repair the weapon every few shots.

[Aqizithiuda]

Words do not describe how much I want this.

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As to concerns of modern weaponry not working on Mars, I really can't see it being that bad. Dusty as anything, sure, but I can't really see that stopping a Kalashnikov, or a G3, or even a properly maintained M16.

Martian dust is a fine as shit, everywhere, and a good part of it is always airborne. No conventional firearm would stand a chance.

You'd need to clean, and maybe repair the weapon every few shots.

I bet the AK and other weapons built with similar design requirements would work quite well.

[Yes Im Biop]

Words do not describe how much I want this.

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As to concerns of modern weaponry not working on Mars, I really can't see it being that bad. Dusty as anything, sure, but I can't really see that stopping a Kalashnikov, or a G3, or even a properly maintained M16.

Martian dust is a fine as shit, everywhere, and a good part of it is always airborne. No conventional firearm would stand a chance.

You'd need to clean, and maybe repair the weapon every few shots.

Break actions may be good enough. Bolts and even revolvers would be gummed to shit

[Premislyd]

Now it can into rifle grenades

[Fordorsia]

Martian dust is a fine as shit, everywhere, and a good part of it is always airborne. No conventional firearm would stand a chance.

You'd need to clean, and maybe repair the weapon every few shots.

I bet the AK and other weapons built with similar design requirements would work quite well.

Martian dust and soil, from what I believe, is more abrasive than that from Earth. Getting it in a rifle, which I guarantee will happen, will cause the dust to eat away at the metal with each working of the action quite significantly. The best thing to do would be to cover up as many holes as you can and not fire a lot, or just use a non-repeating weapon, like a break-action.

Or you could not go to Mars.

[Bezombia]

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Now it can into rifle grenades

dat forepenis

[Fordorsia]

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Now it can into rifle grenades

dat forepenis

Either you've seen some weird penises, or you have a weird penis.

[Purpelia]

Honestly I think the ultimate space weapon would be some sort of repeating air rifle. You don't need that much force from your shots because you don't need to incapacitate your opponent, just rip his clothes. Every tear is an immediate casualty. An air rifle meanwhile would have many advantages. Since there is no ejection system at all there is absolutely no way for any dirt to get into the weapon aside of the muzzle. And the muzzle can be really small.

[Aqizithiuda]

I bet the AK and other weapons built with similar design requirements would work quite well.

Martian dust and soil, from what I believe, is more abrasive than that from Earth. Getting it in a rifle, which I guarantee will happen, will cause the dust to eat away at the metal with each working of the action quite significantly. The best thing to do would be to cover up as many holes as you can and not fire a lot, or just use a non-repeating weapon, like a break-action.

Or you could not go to Mars.

Nitride the working parts/coat them with DLC. Where is your superdust now?

[Fordorsia]

Martian dust and soil, from what I believe, is more abrasive than that from Earth. Getting it in a rifle, which I guarantee will happen, will cause the dust to eat away at the metal with each working of the action quite significantly. The best thing to do would be to cover up as many holes as you can and not fire a lot, or just use a non-repeating weapon, like a break-action.

Or you could not go to Mars.

Nitride the working parts/coat them with DLC. Where is your superdust now?

martian dust storm tho m8

they hide. they hide where you cannot see them

[Premislyd]

Just have misters

[Bezombia]

Honestly I think the ultimate space weapon would be some sort of repeating air rifle. You don't need that much force from your shots because you don't need to incapacitate your opponent, just rip his clothes. Every tear is an immediate casualty. An air rifle meanwhile would have many advantages. Since there is no ejection system at all there is absolutely no way for any dirt to get into the weapon aside of the muzzle. And the muzzle can be really small.

LMG11 confirmed to be the best marsrifle

[Dat cua Tien]

Honestly I think the ultimate space weapon would be some sort of repeating air rifle. You don't need that much force from your shots because you don't need to incapacitate your opponent, just rip his clothes. Every tear is an immediate casualty. An air rifle meanwhile would have many advantages. Since there is no ejection system at all there is absolutely no way for any dirt to get into the weapon aside of the muzzle. And the muzzle can be really small.

Wouldn't recoil be greatly amplified on Mars too?