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Postby Vitaphone Racing » Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:28 am

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The neoconservative party is called the Nationalist Party.

I don't see why it couldn't be called the Liberal Party. Most liberal parties are centre-right anyways.

Liberal refers to the right wing side of politics in virtually every country except for the US.
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Postby Proskoya » Thu Sep 11, 2014 6:39 am

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Ainin wrote:I don't see why it couldn't be called the Liberal Party. Most liberal parties are centre-right anyways.

Liberal refers to the right wing side of politics in virtually every country except for the US.

Which confuses the ever living hell out of all the political science students that start the program and don't really know politics beyond America.
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Postby DnalweN acilbupeR » Thu Sep 11, 2014 10:24 am

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Vitaphone Racing wrote:Liberal refers to the right wing side of politics in virtually every country except for the US.

Which confuses the ever living hell out of all the political science students that start the program and don't really know politics beyond America.


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or does this happen everywhere, so they're oblivious about politics outside of their country?
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Postby The High Tatras » Thu Sep 11, 2014 10:46 am

Regarding American politics, I'm confused why Republican/ GOP dominated states are typically represented as being the color red, because red is typically associated with socialism and left-wing politics that they constantly go out of their way to demonize.
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Postby DnalweN acilbupeR » Thu Sep 11, 2014 11:03 am

For roads that have a dedicated parking lane, I was wondering where would be the best place to put a cycle lane, to the left or to the right of the parking lane?

The main disadvantage with the left option is obviously the risk of drivers opening their doors in front of the cyclists or clipping the cyclists when switching over to the running lane(s). They should be careful and look over their shoulders regardless, but cars are easier to spot than bicycles because they're larger and noisier. The problem with the right option however would be that it's harder for the cyclists to enter or exit the cycle lane.. you could space out parking spots so that there are gaps in between vehicles but this wouldn't be very space efficient.

I think I'll go with putting the lane right next to the sidewalk (so to the right of the parking lane) . With the Dutch intersection system this should work out well. (as bike lane left turns are handled differently)

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Postby The Akasha Colony » Thu Sep 11, 2014 11:37 am

DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:For roads that have a dedicated parking lane, I was wondering where would be the best place to put a cycle lane, to the left or to the right of the parking lane?

The main disadvantage with the left option is obviously the risk of drivers opening their doors in front of the cyclists or clipping the cyclists when switching over to the running lane(s). They should be careful and look over their shoulders regardless, but cars are easier to spot than bicycles because they're larger and noisier. The problem with the right option however would be that it's harder for the cyclists to enter or exit the cycle lane.. you could space out parking spots so that there are gaps in between vehicles but this wouldn't be very space efficient.

I think I'll go with putting the lane right next to the sidewalk (so to the right of the parking lane) . With the Dutch intersection system this should work out well. (as bike lane left turns are handled differently)

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AFAIK, bike lanes at least at home are on the road side of the parking lane, rather than the sidewalk side. For one, there's no guarantee that parking cars won't accidentally impinge into the bike lane, and it prevents any kind of passing by the cyclists because they can no longer veer into the traffic lane (assuming it is clear, of course) to pass slower riders ahead. It also makes it easier for drivers making right turns to see if there are any cyclists, since they are not screened behind a possible layer of parked cars, and makes it easier for passengers to access a parked car (they don't have to exit into or enter from a bike lane).
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Postby DnalweN acilbupeR » Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:27 pm

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DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:For roads that have a dedicated parking lane, I was wondering where would be the best place to put a cycle lane, to the left or to the right of the parking lane?

The main disadvantage with the left option is obviously the risk of drivers opening their doors in front of the cyclists or clipping the cyclists when switching over to the running lane(s). They should be careful and look over their shoulders regardless, but cars are easier to spot than bicycles because they're larger and noisier. The problem with the right option however would be that it's harder for the cyclists to enter or exit the cycle lane.. you could space out parking spots so that there are gaps in between vehicles but this wouldn't be very space efficient.

I think I'll go with putting the lane right next to the sidewalk (so to the right of the parking lane) . With the Dutch intersection system this should work out well. (as bike lane left turns are handled differently)

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AFAIK, bike lanes at least at home are on the road side of the parking lane, rather than the sidewalk side. For one, there's no guarantee that parking cars won't accidentally impinge into the bike lane, and it prevents any kind of passing by the cyclists because they can no longer veer into the traffic lane (assuming it is clear, of course) to pass slower riders ahead. It also makes it easier for drivers making right turns to see if there are any cyclists, since they are not screened behind a possible layer of parked cars, and makes it easier for passengers to access a parked car (they don't have to exit into or enter from a bike lane).


The last part doesn't make much sense, assuming most motorists drive alone.
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Postby The Akasha Colony » Thu Sep 11, 2014 1:10 pm

DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:
The Akasha Colony wrote:
AFAIK, bike lanes at least at home are on the road side of the parking lane, rather than the sidewalk side. For one, there's no guarantee that parking cars won't accidentally impinge into the bike lane, and it prevents any kind of passing by the cyclists because they can no longer veer into the traffic lane (assuming it is clear, of course) to pass slower riders ahead. It also makes it easier for drivers making right turns to see if there are any cyclists, since they are not screened behind a possible layer of parked cars, and makes it easier for passengers to access a parked car (they don't have to exit into or enter from a bike lane).


The last part doesn't make much sense, assuming most motorists drive alone.


Do you plan your roads on the assumption that no one will ever be traveling with passengers? Most high-capacity vehicles, including vans and buses, will have their passenger exits and loading areas aligned with the curb side for obvious reasons. In this scheme, they exit right into a bike lane.

And while individual drivers may be driving alone, but if they have any cargo, they will almost certainly prefer to access it from the curb side rather than the street side for simple safety reasons. And convenience, since they'll presumably be coming from the curb side rather than the street side, so they don't have to try to carry their belongings around to the other side. If you put a bike lane there, there is no "curb side" anymore because parked cars are now wedged between the driving lanes and the bike lanes, meaning that there is no safe place from which to load or unload a vehicle.
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Postby Darston » Thu Sep 11, 2014 3:56 pm

The High Tatras wrote:Regarding American politics, I'm confused why Republican/ GOP dominated states are typically represented as being the color red, because red is typically associated with socialism and left-wing politics that they constantly go out of their way to demonize.


The Republican states used to be blue, but it changed to red after Nixon (I think it was him, not certain.) Also, red is on the American flag, and it represents strength and bravery.

I think Republican states are red because it is easier to remember since they both begin with R.

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Postby Costa Fierro » Thu Sep 11, 2014 5:37 pm

DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:For roads that have a dedicated parking lane, I was wondering where would be the best place to put a cycle lane, to the left or to the right of the parking lane?


Or not at all.
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Postby DnalweN acilbupeR » Thu Sep 11, 2014 10:23 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:
DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:For roads that have a dedicated parking lane, I was wondering where would be the best place to put a cycle lane, to the left or to the right of the parking lane?


Or not at all.


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Postby Ainin » Thu Sep 11, 2014 11:08 pm

DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
Or not at all.


expand.

Roads that have parking lanes tend to be either
a) minor non-artery roads
b) artery roads in highly dense areas like a business district where off-road parking is hard to find

Neither of which need bike lanes. For the former, cars can just share the roads with bikes, the second, riding bikes on would be stupid to the point of self-harm.
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Postby Crookfur » Fri Sep 12, 2014 3:14 am

There is also option C:
Cyclists are an evil self centred free loaders who are nothing more than a meance to motor vehcile and foot traffic alike and as such should all be shot on sight.
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Postby Kouralia » Fri Sep 12, 2014 3:22 am

Crookfur wrote:There is also option C:
Cyclists are an evil self centred free loaders who are nothing more than a meance to motor vehcile and foot traffic alike and as such should all be shot on sight.

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Postby Costa Fierro » Fri Sep 12, 2014 3:31 am

DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
Or not at all.


expand.


Roads with existing on street parking are really not supposed to have cycle lanes. We are trying that experiment in my city and it's resulted in a cycle lane next to the kerb, then the parking spaces and then the actual traffic lane. Doing this results in the passenger opening the door into the cycle lane. Putting the lane next to traffic results in the same risk.

Ergo dedicated parking lanes and cycle lanes do not mix. Thankfully, we also have dedicated shared paths for cyclists and pedestrians to use, removing the need for complicated combination of parking spaces and cycle lanes.
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Postby Crookfur » Fri Sep 12, 2014 3:48 am

Kouralia wrote:
Crookfur wrote:There is also option C:
Cyclists are an evil self centred free loaders who are nothing more than a meance to motor vehcile and foot traffic alike and as such should all be shot on sight.

Sgt Sanjeev is most displeased.


Obviously military cyclists can be excluded due to fact they posess discipline and decorum (and in the good sgt's case an excellent beard) where as civilian western cyclists have none of these things as evidenced by the fact they even think of calling for laws that would change the whole basis of the common law based legal system ;)
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Postby DnalweN acilbupeR » Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:04 am

Costa Fierro wrote:
DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:
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Roads with existing on street parking are really not supposed to have cycle lanes. We are trying that experiment in my city and it's resulted in a cycle lane next to the kerb, then the parking spaces and then the actual traffic lane. Doing this results in the passenger opening the door into the cycle lane. Putting the lane next to traffic results in the same risk.

Ergo dedicated parking lanes and cycle lanes do not mix. Thankfully, we also have dedicated shared paths for cyclists and pedestrians to use, removing the need for complicated combination of parking spaces and cycle lanes.


intersections between sidewalks and bike lanes lel
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Postby The Macabees » Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:14 am

In San Diego, the order goes curb -> parking -> bicycle lane. We don't have any major problems.
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Postby The Greater Luthorian Empire » Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:21 am

Crookfur wrote:There is also option C:
Cyclists are an evil self centred free loaders who are nothing more than a meance to motor vehcile and foot traffic alike and as such should all be shot on sight.

I support this option. Fuck cyclists, we shouldn't modify our infrastructure to cater to a small group.
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Cycling lanes are a waste of valuable pavement.
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Postby Bears Armed » Fri Sep 12, 2014 10:47 am

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Ainin wrote:I don't see why it couldn't be called the Liberal Party. Most liberal parties are centre-right anyways.

Liberal refers to the right wing side of politics in virtually every country except for the US.

or the UK...
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Vitaphone Racing wrote:Liberal refers to the right wing side of politics in virtually every country except for the US.

or the UK...


and Canada...
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Postby DnalweN acilbupeR » Sat Sep 13, 2014 2:05 am

The Greater Luthorian Empire wrote:
Crookfur wrote:There is also option C:
Cyclists are an evil self centred free loaders who are nothing more than a meance to motor vehcile and foot traffic alike and as such should all be shot on sight.

I support this option. Fuck cyclists, we shouldn't modify our infrastructure to cater to a small group.


The Kievan People wrote:Cycling lanes are a waste of valuable pavement.


tell this to the dutch lol
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Postby Ainin » Sat Sep 13, 2014 2:12 am

DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:
The Greater Luthorian Empire wrote:I support this option. Fuck cyclists, we shouldn't modify our infrastructure to cater to a small group.


The Kievan People wrote:Cycling lanes are a waste of valuable pavement.


tell this to the dutch lol

The Netherlands are a waste of valuable ocean. :p
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Postby Zeinbrad » Sat Sep 13, 2014 10:28 am

So, I began to work on the Gaian's law enforcement agencies.

Currently I have-Section 7, who police the Commerce Guilds (Mega-Corporations)

Section 6-Aquatic Coast Guard.

Section 9-Counter-Terrorist organization that also hunt down mutants (only dangerous ones).

So for an interstellar nation that is the Republic of Gaia, what law enforcement agencies should I have?
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