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Postby Averland-Jorland » Mon Aug 21, 2017 12:02 pm

It's impossible to say because no landmass does, or would ever, look like that (and especially at that size.) A good answer would be: whatever you want it to be.

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Postby The Islands of Versilia » Mon Aug 21, 2017 1:28 pm

What's the name of an area surrounded by high ground/mountains on all sides with a single small-use pathway into the centre?
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Postby Averland-Jorland » Mon Aug 21, 2017 1:52 pm

Also another thing that doesn't exist.

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Postby Kouralia » Mon Aug 21, 2017 1:56 pm

The Islands of Versilia wrote:What's the name of an area surrounded by high ground/mountains on all sides with a single small-use pathway into the centre?

I don't think there's a specific word.

I think a basin is the technical term for a 'round' valley. So it's a basin, or depression, ringed by treacherously mountainous terrain, with only a single path to the interior. If you're describing it in an RP, describe it rather than trying to come up with a single piece of esoteric technical terminology.
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Postby Crookfur » Mon Aug 21, 2017 3:29 pm

Kouralia wrote:
The Islands of Versilia wrote:What's the name of an area surrounded by high ground/mountains on all sides with a single small-use pathway into the centre?

I don't think there's a specific word.

I think a basin is the technical term for a 'round' valley. So it's a basin, or depression, ringed by treacherously mountainous terrain, with only a single path to the interior. If you're describing it in an RP, describe it rather than trying to come up with a single piece of esoteric technical terminology.

A plateau would also fit providing the encircled area is raised but down sea level a basin probably works better

Edit: Caldera might also work but that requires the presence of an astonishingly large volcano...
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Postby Purpelia » Mon Aug 21, 2017 3:54 pm

It's random question time, this time with fish.

Fish, chicken, beef etc. Different peoples eat different meats in preference. So what about your nation? Which meat do your people like best?
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Postby Crookfur » Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:26 pm

Purpelia wrote:It's random question time, this time with fish.

Fish, chicken, beef etc. Different peoples eat different meats in preference. So what about your nation? Which meat do your people like best?

Traditionally beef was the preferred meat within Crookdur but in recent years it has been edged out by chicken.

Fish is popular in coastal areas and is regaining some prominence after a large drop in consumption between the late 19th and late 20th centuries.
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Postby Kazarogkai » Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:55 pm

Purpelia wrote:It's random question time, this time with fish.

Fish, chicken, beef etc. Different peoples eat different meats in preference. So what about your nation? Which meat do your people like best?


For the vast bulk of the population fish is their primary source of protein. This is the case even in interior regions due to the wide numbers of lakes, rivers and other bodies of freshwater. The Kaza homeland does't have a a great variety of natural resources; iron, stone, timber, arable land, wildlife, and a metric effton of fish both in the surrounding ocean and in the interior lands. This has made it so that the earliest evidence of sedentary living rather than being traced to agriculture like most regions instead came about as a result of fishing similar to places like the pacific northwest. Agriculture came later initially in the form of forest gardening until the domestication of rice 4-6,000 years ago. Never the less there are other sources of meat these are in descending order of importance:

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bush meat

The Second seems to have been native to these lands while the first, third, and fourth were bought with the aforementioned earliest migrants to the Kaza main island. Bush meat as the name implies derives from hunting/trapping of course which is an essential aspect of rural life. Gazelle, antelope, crocodile, bush rat, capybara, rheas, etc are the many various animals native to the Kaza's homeland which they hunt for food.
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Postby The Akasha Colony » Mon Aug 21, 2017 5:35 pm

Purpelia wrote:It's random question time, this time with fish.

Fish, chicken, beef etc. Different peoples eat different meats in preference. So what about your nation? Which meat do your people like best?


Nowadays chicken and beef are the most common meats in Carthage owing primarily to their ease of farming and their relatively inoffensive status in the diets of most ethnic/cultural groups. Lamb is regularly eaten as well but not quite as common owing to its generally higher prices. Fish has always been common in coastal regions but the advent of modern preservation techniques has made it more common inland as well although it is unsurprisingly generally cheapest and freshest closest to the source.

Pork was originally not particularly common owing to the fact that Islam is the single largest religious group in Carthage, but nowadays more than half the population is non-religious or religiously unaffiliated so pork consumption has been on the rise for decades and has almost reached parity with other major meat sources.

Regional preferences include horse meat, mutton, bison, venison, various other fowl, etc. There is a small market for more exotic meats, and dog meat in particular is a polarizing topic between ethnic/cultural groups. While many ethnic groups in sub-Saharan Africa regularly consume dog meat, most groups in North Africa, Iberia, and descended from European and Japanese immigrants are generally opposed to the practice, though it remains legal nation-wide.
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Postby DnalweN acilbupeR » Tue Aug 22, 2017 4:51 am

Purpelia wrote:It's random question time, this time with fish.

Fish, chicken, beef etc. Different peoples eat different meats in preference. So what about your nation? Which meat do your people like best?


hey what about pork. i'll give you my pork when you pry it from my cold dead hands.

EDIT: In RN, the most popular meats are chicken, pork and beef, roughly in this order, but there aren't huge differences in consumption. Fish would probably be the 4th most popular. Popular poultry other than chicken include turkey, duck and goose, in this order. Another popular meat is lamb/mutton, although a lot less popular than beef. Even less popular still is goat meat. More exotic domestic meats include horse, with donkey and mule being less common ; dog and cat meat are legal although rather uncommon.

Apart from these, various game meats are relatively common in more remote or rural areas, or otherwise as a delicacy.

Historically goats have been a staple of Newlandian cuisine and animal husbandry in general, as a result of their robust nature, multiple uses, and being easier to manage than e.g. cattle. However, with the advent of intensive/industrialized animal farming, goats have generally fallen to the wayside, although they are still recognized as part of traditional cuisine and are still relatively common in some rural areas. Although taken for granted in modern times, in the grand scheme of things, beef and cow dairy are a relatively new addition to the common diet of the Newlandians, with goat and sheep being historical mainstays.
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Postby Bears Armed » Tue Aug 22, 2017 5:18 am

And also consider past effects of this?
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Postby Averland-Jorland » Tue Aug 22, 2017 5:37 am

Chicken is so widely consumed all over the world as the cheapest and most plentiful meat for no other reason than it is the most economical from which food is produced. It requires the least inputs and gives the most outputs (and especially if you are Chinese, virtually all of a chicken is edible.) Accordingly, most people in Averland-Jorland will eat chicken for most meals. Whether they prefer beef, pork, lamb, pigeon, rabbit, or anything else is really down to taste preference.

A-J has a strong fishing industry actually, so fish would be widely consumed too.
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Postby DnalweN acilbupeR » Tue Aug 22, 2017 6:06 am

Averland-Jorland wrote:Chicken is so widely consumed all over the world as the cheapest and most plentiful meat for no other reason than it is the most economical from which food is produced. It requires the least inputs and gives the most outputs (and especially if you are Chinese, virtually all of a chicken is edible.) Accordingly, most people in Averland-Jorland will eat chicken for most meals. Whether they prefer beef, pork, lamb, pigeon, rabbit, or anything else is really down to taste preference.

A-J has a strong fishing industry actually, so fish would be widely consumed too.


Chicken bones and other normally undesirable parts like heads or feet can be used to flavor soups even if not eaten per se.
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Postby Averland-Jorland » Tue Aug 22, 2017 6:08 am

Yes - but that's true of all meat (and chicken feet certainly can be eaten.) About the only thing of a chicken you can't use is the beak and the feathers.

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Postby Welskerland » Tue Aug 22, 2017 6:52 am

Purpelia wrote:It's random question time, this time with fish.

Fish, chicken, beef etc. Different peoples eat different meats in preference. So what about your nation? Which meat do your people like best?


Being landlocked, seafood is not commonly eaten in Welskerland. Poultry and pork are the most commonly eaten meat.
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Postby Averland-Jorland » Tue Aug 22, 2017 6:54 am

Welskerland wrote:Being landlocked, seafood is not commonly eaten in Welskerland. Poultry and pork are the most commonly eaten meat.
Is Welskerland a country without lakes, rivers, or refrigeration?
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Postby Laywenrania » Tue Aug 22, 2017 1:51 pm

Averland-Jorland wrote:Yes - but that's true of all meat (and chicken feet certainly can be eaten.) About the only thing of a chicken you can't use is the beak and the feathers.

you can use them... or do you mean for eating?
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Postby Averland-Jorland » Tue Aug 22, 2017 2:08 pm

Laywenrania wrote:
Averland-Jorland wrote:Yes - but that's true of all meat (and chicken feet certainly can be eaten.) About the only thing of a chicken you can't use is the beak and the feathers.

you can use them... or do you mean for eating?
I meant for eating. Perhaps the Chinese eat the beak, though.

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Postby Averland-Jorland » Tue Aug 22, 2017 2:08 pm

http://iiwiki.com/wiki/Economy_of_Averland-Jorland

Discuss.

The trade and currency and history sections are currently closed as I am in no region yet.

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Postby Laywenrania » Tue Aug 22, 2017 2:13 pm

Averland-Jorland wrote:
Laywenrania wrote:you can use them... or do you mean for eating?
I meant for eating. Perhaps the Chinese eat the beak, though.

afaik they make animal food out of feathers, uh^^
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Postby Averland-Jorland » Tue Aug 22, 2017 2:17 pm

Oh really? That's kind of interesting I guess.

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Postby Gallia- » Tue Aug 22, 2017 2:46 pm

Purpelia wrote:It's random question time, this time with fish.

Fish, chicken, beef etc. Different peoples eat different meats in preference. So what about your nation? Which meat do your people like best?


Fish is historically the most popular meat in Gallia, owing to its status as an island country and large Christian population.

Shellfish, such as oysters, lobster, and crab; shrimp; salmon; and tuna being the most commonly consumed fishes. Pork is the second most consumed meat, although it enjoyed dominance from the late 19th century until the 1960s, when pisciculture began experiencing a surge of growth due to subsidy, industrialization, and later, (genetic engineering beginning in the 1980s). Of the approximately 160 mn tons of fish produced annually around the world; with about 110 mn produced for human consumption, and about two fifths is farmed, with the remainder caught. Beef and chicken have alternated between third and fourth spots over the centuries, with beef gaining the lead in the 1960s, although chicken has been growing faster in terms of consumption and commercial penetration since the 1990s. Lamb occupies the fifth spot of meat consumption by lbs/capita.

Game meats (deer, elk, moose, etc.), quail, and other meats occupy various increasingly irrelevant sections of lbs/capita consumption.

tl;dr Chicken is the worst meat in the universe. Salt pork/Virginia ham is a close second, though, on account of being incredibly salty; but it is also :America: as hell and just like bourbon I am obligated to have Galla eat loads of it because nationalistic reasons. However I actually enjoy bourbon so I'm not sure that's even the same reasons.

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Postby Costa Fierro » Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:58 pm

Crookfur wrote:Edit: Caldera might also work but that requires the presence of an astonishingly large volcano...


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Postby Bears Armed » Wed Aug 23, 2017 5:27 am

Costa Fierro wrote:
Crookfur wrote:Edit: Caldera might also work but that requires the presence of an astonishingly large volcano...


They do exist.

Indeed.
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Postby Taihei Tengoku » Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:15 am

Averland-Jorland wrote:http://iiwiki.com/wiki/Economy_of_Averland-Jorland

Discuss.

The trade and currency and history sections are currently closed as I am in no region yet.

Economic dynamism and state ownership are mutually exclusive since the 1930s, and even then you had to do it over a pile of corpses. Mao tried in the 50s and got a pile of corpses but no industry. So-called "success stories" of central planning still allowed for the profit motive and their success was as much in spite of dirigisme as it was because of it (see: Japan and MITI). However, I may be a bit biased so here is a series of articles on Soviet economic history if you'd like to read
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