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Champagne Socialist Sharifistan
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Postby Champagne Socialist Sharifistan » Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:37 am

Gallia- wrote:
Triplebaconation wrote:
would giving burger king managers second wives improve burger morale in my muslim incel fantasyland?

(burger king recruits 27.3% of managers from the nobility)


bu(r)g(er) king

it only works if the radio jingles for the Sultincelnate's borgorking franchises go "hippity hoppity women are property" to the tune of red robin or something

Champagne Socialist Sharifistan wrote:
Says the guy who wants to "distribute" unwilling women to prevent social unrest.
There's another way to prevent social unrest:
a functional police force.


yeah monogamy is what actual Reality Winners do i guess

Did you know that some wealthy countries with low crime rates legalise polygyny?
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Triplebaconation
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Postby Triplebaconation » Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:40 am

Champagne Socialist Sharifistan wrote:
Triplebaconation wrote:
would giving burger king managers second wives improve burger morale in my muslim incel fantasyland?

(burger king recruits 27.3% of managers from the nobility)


What's Incel about this?


Please consult Google before responding. Serious answers only.
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Postby Champagne Socialist Sharifistan » Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:42 am

Triplebaconation wrote:
Gallia- wrote:kids these days be like "women are property" lmao


would giving burger king managers second wives improve burger morale in my muslim incel fantasyland?

(burger king recruits 27.3% of managers from the nobility)

Ok to give a serious answer: yes.
If Incels managed to create an actual state it would improve THEIR morale.
The other Incels would kill them though
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Triplebaconation
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Postby Triplebaconation » Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:44 am

what if there was an online dating service
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Postby Champagne Socialist Sharifistan » Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:45 am

Triplebaconation wrote:what if there was an online dating service

Well if it's consensual they're not really Incels are they?
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Postby Ideal Britain » Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:48 am

Does allowing police officers to marry adolescents (16-19) have any negative effects on the force?
Is it good or bad for morale in the department as a whole?
An MT alt-history Britain.
Year: 2021

British mixed-race (white and South Asian) Muslim Pashtun, advocate of Islamic unity.

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Triplebaconation
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Postby Triplebaconation » Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:49 am

what if the dating service for was for people who can't get dates so they just get married and then die of overwork because they're stressed their entire family died in a war because the prestigious universities increased their tuition and they needed more land for the nobility to run tea plantations because some were too dumb to apply for crappy jobs like police inspector and all the mistresses of the dead soldiers are going around committing illegal marriages and morale is at an all-time low because someone married a 19-year-old so he could get extra money but he was cuckolded

(also they swipe up instead of right)
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Postby Champagne Socialist Sharifistan » Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:56 am

what if the dating service for was for people who can't get dates so they just get married?

Most dating sites are aimed at single people who want to be in relationships as I understand it.

and then die of overwork because they're stressed their entire family died in a war
.
You mean to support the home front?
Well in Sharifistan they would be honoured as martyrs, what religion does this place have?
Also how does a manager die from over-exertion?
because the prestigious universities increased their tuition and they needed more land for the nobility to run tea plantations

Most nobles (unless deposed) come from families that own land.
Maybe have free tuition.
the Ancien Regime in France had free education for nobles so that people who lost their money (but kept their noble titles) could get educated. More modern societies often have free tuition for all classes.


because some were too dumb to apply for crappy jobs like police inspector

Police Inspector is a high-rank, also many people want to be police officers making it hard to get in.

and
all the mistresses of the dead soldiers are going around committing illegal marriages

What do you mean illegal marriages?


and
morale is at an all-time low because someone married a 19 year old

Teach your citizens to man up,
she's a woman!
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Postby Champagne Socialist Sharifistan » Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:57 am

morale is at an all-time low because someone married a 19-year-old so he could get extra money but he was cuckolded


Ban adultery.
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Founder of the Traditionalist Military Alliance:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=493756
The Turkish War of Independence and everything before along with 2014 modernisation are set in stone.
Everything else is subject to change

Black Lives Matter!

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Postby Champagne Socialist Sharifistan » Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:59 am

Does this class system make sense for a somewhat Islamic, militaristic absolute monarchy that values education?:
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=cha ... id=1308568
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Postby Triplebaconation » Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:07 am

no it's silly

would it improve morale if adultery is punished by flogging but 25% of police inspectors die mid-flog because of overwork
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Postby Champagne Socialist Sharifistan » Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:37 am

Triplebaconation wrote:no it's silly

would it improve morale if adultery is punished by flogging but 25% of police inspectors die mid-flog because of overwork

1. what's silly about it?

2. no. It would lower morale.
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Postby Manokan Republic » Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:47 am

The simple answer to all this is, cultural factors can impact military performance, but unless it's on one end of the extreme or the other (I.E. your whole nation is pacifists or warmongers), it won't matter much. Genghis khan was asian, Hannibal was persian, Alexander the great was Macedonian/Greek, Timil the conqueror was Turkish, Scipio Africanus was Roman, America is multicultural, and so on and so forth. Many cultures have produced great military leaders, so specific islamic cultural traditions or jewish traditions or american traditions or British traditions or Greek, etc. whatever doesn't impact performance all that much unless they are particularly geared towards war or the use of weapons, or they are particularly against it. How many wives, how often they sleep with them, who sleeps with them, none of this really impacts military performance all that much.

You could say those with wives have something to fight for, but you could also say they don't want to die as they want to come back to their wife and kids, so it doesn't really necessarily benefit them either way. A guy might fight harder if he feels he has nothing to lose, or he might fight harder if he does have something to lose, depending on the individual and the situation. So it's irrelevant. Those that think their cultural factors will give them superiority are often destined to lose, and we see this with the nazis and various others throughout history. There is going to be a rude awakening if you think your culture gives you super powers or something. Unless your culture revolves around the use of weapons and strategies and tactics and whatnot, it's not going to give you much of an advantage over any other military.
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Postby Champagne Socialist Sharifistan » Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:24 am

Manokan Republic wrote:The simple answer to all this is, cultural factors can impact military performance, but unless it's on one end of the extreme or the other (I.E. your whole nation is pacifists or warmongers), it won't matter much. Genghis khan was asian, Hannibal was persian, Alexander the great was Macedonian/Greek, Timil the conqueror was Turkish, Scipio Africanus was Roman, America is multicultural, and so on and so forth. Many cultures have produced great military leaders, so specific islamic cultural traditions or jewish traditions or american traditions or British traditions or Greek, etc. whatever doesn't impact performance all that much unless they are particularly geared towards war or the use of weapons, or they are particularly against it. How many wives, how often they sleep with them, who sleeps with them, none of this really impacts military performance all that much.

You could say those with wives have something to fight for, but you could also say they don't want to die as they want to come back to their wife and kids, so it doesn't really necessarily benefit them either way. A guy might fight harder if he feels he has nothing to lose, or he might fight harder if he does have something to lose, depending on the individual and the situation. So it's irrelevant. Those that think their cultural factors will give them superiority are often destined to lose, and we see this with the nazis and various others throughout history. There is going to be a rude awakening if you think your culture gives you super powers or something. Unless your culture revolves around the use of weapons and strategies and tactics and whatnot, it's not going to give you much of an advantage over any other military.



Unless your culture revolves around the use of weapons and strategies and tactics and whatnot

It does.
It has a military tradition going back centuries (including the centuries before it existed as a state) and a strong gun culture.
Also military strategy is something most people debate.
A nation which partly represents my views.
Founder of the Traditionalist Military Alliance:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=493756
The Turkish War of Independence and everything before along with 2014 modernisation are set in stone.
Everything else is subject to change

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Postby Champagne Socialist Sharifistan » Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:40 am

Gallia- wrote:In the UK, there are two reasons police are often seen wearing "body armour":

1) Knoife crime is most prevalent in the UK.
2) The UK is a communist dictatorship of the proletariat.

They're stab vests, not bullet proof ones. The UK has no gun violence.

The UK isn't communist.
You yourself mentioned Richard Branson.
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Founder of the Traditionalist Military Alliance:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=493756
The Turkish War of Independence and everything before along with 2014 modernisation are set in stone.
Everything else is subject to change

Black Lives Matter!

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Postby Champagne Socialist Sharifistan » Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:42 am

Spirit of Hope wrote:
Champagne Socialist Sharifistan wrote:No but they have a conscript army, are almost constantly in wars, have a high voluntary manslaughter rate (officially murders are rare due to a broad definition of "voluntary manslaughter) and because of their large population equipment is emphasised over manpower.


That makes no sense. You are saying that roughly one third of your population dies, basically before they can get married. You wouldn't have a functioning economy to produce equipment for you to fight with.

if 10% of deaths are due to overwork would that imply enough works to produce equipment.
Also some working-class guys make it to polygyny by marrying widows.
A nation which partly represents my views.
Founder of the Traditionalist Military Alliance:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=493756
The Turkish War of Independence and everything before along with 2014 modernisation are set in stone.
Everything else is subject to change

Black Lives Matter!

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Dayganistan
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Postby Dayganistan » Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:50 am

Look, Sharifistan, you're welcome to make a fantasy land where every man has 5 teenage wives. Nobody is going to stop you. But please stop asking if it's realistic.
Republic of Dayganistan | جمهوری دهقانستان

A secular, Tajik dominated state in Central Asia which has experienced 40 years of democratic backsliding. NS stats are NOT used.

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Postby Gallia- » Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:54 am

Champagne Socialist Sharifistan wrote:
Gallia- wrote:In the UK, there are two reasons police are often seen wearing "body armour":

1) Knoife crime is most prevalent in the UK.
2) The UK is a communist dictatorship of the proletariat.

They're stab vests, not bullet proof ones. The UK has no gun violence.

The UK isn't communist.
You yourself mentioned Richard Branson.


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Postby Champagne Socialist Sharifistan » Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:10 pm

Dayganistan wrote:Look, Sharifistan, you're welcome to make a fantasy land where every man has 5 teenage wives. Nobody is going to stop you. But please stop asking if it's realistic.

I never said "every man has 5 teenage wives".
A nation which partly represents my views.
Founder of the Traditionalist Military Alliance:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=493756
The Turkish War of Independence and everything before along with 2014 modernisation are set in stone.
Everything else is subject to change

Black Lives Matter!

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Dayganistan
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Postby Dayganistan » Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:13 pm

Champagne Socialist Sharifistan wrote:
Dayganistan wrote:Look, Sharifistan, you're welcome to make a fantasy land where every man has 5 teenage wives. Nobody is going to stop you. But please stop asking if it's realistic.

I never said "every man has 5 teenage wives".

You need to stop taking everything seriously and as a personal attack.
Republic of Dayganistan | جمهوری دهقانستان

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Postby Champagne Socialist Sharifistan » Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:28 pm

Dayganistan wrote:
Champagne Socialist Sharifistan wrote:I never said "every man has 5 teenage wives".

You need to stop taking everything seriously and as a personal attack.

true
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The Turkish War of Independence and everything before along with 2014 modernisation are set in stone.
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Postby Champagne Socialist Sharifistan » Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:06 pm

If 2 thirds more men than women did dangerous jobs why can't it be 2/3rds women?
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The Turkish War of Independence and everything before along with 2014 modernisation are set in stone.
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Postby Champagne Socialist Sharifistan » Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:06 pm

Champagne Socialist Sharifistan wrote:If 2 thirds more men than women did dangerous jobs why can't it be 2/3rds women?

It's not so much that "all the men die" it's that barely any women die in battle, are murdered or die of overwork due to Sharifistani gender roles.
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Founder of the Traditionalist Military Alliance:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=493756
The Turkish War of Independence and everything before along with 2014 modernisation are set in stone.
Everything else is subject to change

Black Lives Matter!

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The Akasha Colony
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Postby The Akasha Colony » Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:13 pm

if everyone in my country died would threesomes be a good thing? google won't give me an answer
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