Worldbuilding Realism Consultation Thread Mk. 4

[Costa Fierro]

I'm fairly sure gas masks in Israel are for reasons other than nuclear war, since Israel is the only state in the Middle East with nuclear weapons. It, until Syria, wasn't the only state with a large chemical weapons cache.

Edit: I'd also consider something like a mandatory exclusion zone between nuclear installations and civilian areas.

[Ainin]

A better matress and possibly a snuggly duvet when in the cells?

A free ride in the latest scoobaru evo 19 during the annaul police doors open day

A free home security check/visit

A vehcile/driver licensing/insurance check

Flavoured edible breathalyser straw.

Sounds good: No better mattress, but they get a more plush blanket. All of the below from that, and also the ability to claim a free 'I went on holiday to the *XYZton on sea* custody suite for my holiday, and all I got was this stupid T-Shirt' t shirt, upon first release for a 'not rly that serious' crime (e.g. being drunk and disorderly on a friday night), and a simple 'I met the Police - and they were meanies' fridge magnet on the second time, with stickers every time after that.

Any other ideas people? Also, what sort of price should I look at for this card? ~£10?

Maybe price it a bit higher if you're looking for a big profit from it. A T-shirt isn't that cheap to produce unless you buy it in ridiculously large quantities.

[Padnak]

In Padnak the police just steal your valuables then beat you...

"Income supplements"

[Costa Fierro]

In Padnak the police just steal your valuables then beat you...

"Income supplements"

Have a badge that says "cash bribes only".

[Ainin]

How feasible is a rail tunnel underneath a fairly shallow and tranquil strait that's 135km across from one bank to the other?

[Costa Fierro]

How feasible is a rail tunnel underneath a fairly shallow and tranquil strait that's 135km across from one bank to the other?

What's wrong with a ferry service or aircraft?

[Ainin]

How feasible is a rail tunnel underneath a fairly shallow and tranquil strait that's 135km across from one bank to the other?

What's wrong with a ferry service or aircraft?

A mix of capacity issues, patriotic dickwaving and Keynesianism gone mad.

[Spirit of Hope]

How feasible is a rail tunnel underneath a fairly shallow and tranquil strait that's 135km across from one bank to the other?

Longest metro tunnel in the world is just over 60 km. Yours is over twice that. And will be all under water.

You will need some way to circulate air, not just for people to breath but to keep from building up dangerous gasses. You will need to run electricity throughout it in all likely hood. There are support issues and maintenance issues that I can see as a problem.

[Rich and Corporations]

1. Evacuation plans for major factory staff (and preferably equipment), to commence at certain levels of nuclear alert.

2. Mandatory safe-rooms/bomb shelters in every civilian apartment building and public building.

3. Public bomb shelters (can be used for various civilian uses when not being used for the main purpose, in Israel they are used a synagogues, youth centers, etc.)

4. Large sheltered storage facilities for civilian supplies (not only food, but automobiles, medicine, disassembled bridges, farm and factory equipment, firefighting equipment).

5. Emergency survival/NBC safety education in all schools. Encourage everyone to own emergency supplies.

6. Free gas masks and other supplies for civilians (a policy in Israel, my gas mask is within a yard of where I am sitting as I type this).

if nuclear war is a serious risk, everyone would be living underground

thus in NS...

How feasible is a rail tunnel underneath a fairly shallow and tranquil strait that's 135km across from one bank to the other?

Longest metro tunnel in the world is just over 60 km. Yours is over twice that. And will be all under water.

You will need some way to circulate air, not just for people to breath but to keep from building up dangerous gasses. You will need to run electricity throughout it in all likely hood. There are support issues and maintenance issues that I can see as a problem.

my solution: pneumatic transit

[Ainin]

How feasible is a rail tunnel underneath a fairly shallow and tranquil strait that's 135km across from one bank to the other?

Longest metro tunnel in the world is just over 60 km. Yours is over twice that. And will be all under water.

You will need some way to circulate air, not just for people to breath but to keep from building up dangerous gasses. You will need to run electricity throughout it in all likely hood. There are support issues and maintenance issues that I can see as a problem.

Oh wait, I got it wrong. It's more like 100km underwater. The rest is under land.

I've apparently found something almost identical to what I was thinking of in China http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohai_Strait_tunnel

[Costa Fierro]

What's wrong with a ferry service or aircraft?

A mix of capacity issues, patriotic dickwaving and Keynesianism gone mad.

Both those are significantly cheaper to operate.

[Lompa]

What voting system do the majority of Central American nations use?
Lompa has alternative voting.

[Ainin]

What voting system do the majority of Central American nations use?
Lompa has alternative voting.

For the legislative:
Belize uses FPTP
Guatemala and El Salvador use the D'Hondt method
Honduras, Nicaragua and Costa Rica use the Hare-Niemeyer method
Panama uses a retarded mix of all three with some MMP added in there

For presidential elections, they all use FPTP or a variant thereof.

A mix of capacity issues, patriotic dickwaving and Keynesianism gone mad.

Both those are significantly cheaper to operate.

Ferries are very slow though.

And as for aircraft, I think we can both agree that they wouldn't make a good mass transit solution for obvious reason.

[Bears Armed]

Both those are significantly cheaper to operate.

Ferries are very slow though.

And as for aircraft, I think we can both agree that they wouldn't make a good mass transit solution for obvious reason.

Why not ekranoplanes?

[Tule]

Nuclear resilience, in the Civil sphere. Discuss.

INB4 MILITARY, INB4 RUBBLE, INB4 PLATE GLASS

srsly, covered the military stuff. Civil sphere more interesting atm to me. I have a plan as a WIP that I will share after your initial thoughts/I finish writing it.

You can tackle this in many ways.

Some of the Nordic countries put large shelters in large public buildings. My school has a fallout room for instance.

Great Britain expected the population to improvise their own shelters and distributed information on how to do so.

Switzerland has large public shelters and building regulations require every home to have a shelter.

[Ainin]

Ferries are very slow though.

And as for aircraft, I think we can both agree that they wouldn't make a good mass transit solution for obvious reason.

Why not ekranoplanes?

They don't work all that well in heavy wind and are considerably more dangerous than ferries or aircraft in poor visibility.

[The IASM]

May I ask what would a planned megalopolis look like if it was meant to contain over 120 million people?

What would it need to function efficiently as possible.

[Ainin]

May I ask what would a planned megalopolis look like if it was meant to contain over 120 million people?

What would it need to function efficiently as possible.

MT?

Difficult to say, but I'd say awfully massive food and water distribution networks, first of all.

Unless you put this near a really huge body of freshwater, you're going to need massive pipelines bringing in water from hundreds or thousands of kilometres away.

[The IASM]

May I ask what would a planned megalopolis look like if it was meant to contain over 120 million people?

What would it need to function efficiently as possible.

MT?

Difficult to say, but I'd say awfully massive food and water distribution networks, first of all.

Unless you put this near a really huge body of freshwater, you're going to need massive pipelines bringing in water from hundreds or thousands of kilometres away.

Early PMT

Would using the :not:Amazon and a giant water purification system be sufficient?

[Costa Fierro]

Ferries are very slow though.

Only those that don't use water jets and turbine engines.

And as for aircraft, I think we can both agree that they wouldn't make a good mass transit solution for obvious reason.

Why are you trying to make a mass transit system incorporate a 135km stretch of water? Also, commuter flights.

[DnalweN acilbupeR]

May I ask what would a planned megalopolis look like if it was meant to contain over 120 million people?

What would it need to function efficiently as possible.

radial layout, massive skyscrapers, etc.

actually with high and wide enough skyscrapers it shouldn't even be that large surface-wise.

[DnalweN acilbupeR]

what should i call my police's internal security branch? they're the ones supposed to tackle abuse, corruption, information leaks, etc. how does "internal control and counterintelligence" sound?

[Ainin]

Ferries are very slow though.

Only those that don't use water jets and turbine engines.

And as for aircraft, I think we can both agree that they wouldn't make a good mass transit solution for obvious reason.

Why are you trying to make a mass transit system incorporate a 135km stretch of water? Also, commuter flights.

- Relatively speaking, it'd still be significantly slower than high-speed rail or an airliner. Unless I'm severely mistaking the speed of a modern ferry boat.
- It's supposed to link two large cities on both sides of the strait. And it's a ~100km stretch. The 135km is the distance between the stations on both sides. And I don't think commuter flights would have enough capacity.

what should i call my police's internal security branch? they're the ones supposed to tackle abuse, corruption, information leaks, etc. how does "internal control and counterintelligence" sound?

Sounds fine, I guess. Internal control sounds a bit authoritarian though IMO.

My police force doesn't have a single unit to do the tasks you describe.
Abuse goes to the Civilian Investigation and Review Agency. Corruption/information leaks/that type of crime goes to another police department (if it's in the National Police, it goes to the Gendarmerie, if it's in the Gendarmerie, it goes to the National Police, if it's a municipal police force, it goes to the National Police).

[Tule]

Tule is an alternate universe Scandinavia with a semi-fascist, integralist government.
It will however retain a strong hunting tradition.

Would these gun laws be overly liberal for such an Authoritarian Single-Party state? I have deliberately written them with the preservation of government firepower superiority in mind.

Apparently, many dictatorships and oligarchies throughout history have allowed civilian gun ownership, including Nazi Germany and Ba'athist Iraq, not to mention today's Saudi Arabia

The Tulean State regulates firearms by 3 categories:

Category A:

Category A firearms are subject to registration and can be obtained by any autonomous person with a hunting certificate and a clean criminal record.
There is a maximum limit of 6 Category A firearms allowed per household however and they must be stored in a fashion that makes them inaccessible to prohibited persons.

All shotguns, apart from those that:

1) Hold more than 3 shells, including any shells that fit in the chamber(s).
2) Can be easily modified to hold more than 3 shells.
3) Have a fully-automatic firing capability or can be easily modified to have that capability.
4) Have a barrel shorter than 450 mm.

All rifles, apart from those that:

1) Are semi-automatic or pump-activated AND hold more than 3 centerfire rounds, including any rounds that fit in the chamber(s).
2) Are manually operated and hold more than 10 centerfire rounds.
3) Have a fully-automatic firing capability or can be easily modified to have that capability.
4) Have a barrel shorter than 450 mm.
5) Are chambered in any centerfire cartridge used by the Government.

Category B:

Category B firearms are subject to registration and can only be owned by government-approved gun clubs, though autonomous individuals with clean criminal records may rent firearms and even bring them abroad for competitions, provided that they have been registered members of said shooting clubs for 2 years and have participated in 6 competitions locally.

All firearms apart from those that:

1) Have a fully-automatic firing capability or can be easily modified to have that capability.
2) Have a barrel shorter than 100 mm.
3) Are chambered in any centerfire cartridge used by the government.
4) Are chambered in any centerfire cartridge with a cartridge case shorter than 19 mm.

Category C:

Any firearm not permitted by the first two categories. These are prohibited for civilians to own unless said firearms have been permanently deactivated.


The household gun ownership rate in the State of Tule is 31 percent, as hunting is popular.

[DnalweN acilbupeR]

Come to think about it, Internal Control and Counterintelligence is doubly cool because an acronym could be "ICCI" which has a nice symmetry to it.

Perhaps have a stylized logo like "icↄi" but uppercase and with moar cool which they can also like wear and stuff.