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Republic of Penguinian Astronautia
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Republic of Penguinian Astronautia » Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:12 am

Can a nation gain any benefit from using kibbutz style communal child rearing?

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Gallia-
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Gallia- » Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:17 am

Triplebaconation wrote:The average American city is just Blade Runner LA.

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Everybody in Memphis would probably move to North Dakota if they could only build a small Bass Pro.


Blade Runner but the Tyrell Pyramid is just like 10 Bass Pro Shops stacked on top of each other. Sandwiched between Ikeas.

There's a tube and tramway system to get around.

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Izukyu
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Postby Izukyu » Fri Jul 17, 2020 4:26 pm

Republic of Penguinian Astronautia wrote:Can a nation gain any benefit from using kibbutz style communal child rearing?

I've read some horror stories of children's experiences in such settings. It might be interesting in concept, but if executed poorly it's more or less institutionalized child abuse. I find the idea of the kibbutz in general to be interesting, but that might be one of its darker sides.

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Taihei Tengoku
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Postby Taihei Tengoku » Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:28 pm

Every family setting executed poorly is child abuse lol

That said the minmax is the nuclear family
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Republic of Penguinian Astronautia
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Republic of Penguinian Astronautia » Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:54 am

What do you mean by minmax mean in this context?

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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby New Visayan Islands » Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:57 am

Would it be more efficient for ambulance services to be provided by the fire department like in NYC or would you be better off with a separate service? This is for a city, BTW.
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Champagne Socialist Sharifistan
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Postby Champagne Socialist Sharifistan » Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:59 am

People who know a lot about Sharifistan:
Would most Sharifistani women be happy?
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Postby Austrasien » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:18 am

Champagne Socialist Sharifistan wrote:People who know a lot about Sharifistan:
Would most Sharifistani women be happy?


Nobody is happy :ugeek:
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Postby Gallia- » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:56 am

man can only be happy when he gives up pretensions of the material world and rejects society, modernity, and multicellularity :ugeek:

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Capitalist Paradise

Postby Allanea » Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:38 am

Champagne Socialist Sharifistan wrote:People who know a lot about Sharifistan:
Would most Sharifistani women be happy?


I mean it substantially depends on what the women want in their lives, doesn't it?
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Postby Ideal Britain » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:07 am

Allanea wrote:
Champagne Socialist Sharifistan wrote:People who know a lot about Sharifistan:
Would most Sharifistani women be happy?


I mean it substantially depends on what the women want in their lives, doesn't it?

Ok. they're happy then.
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Dayganistan
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Dayganistan » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:24 am

Champagne Socialist Sharifistan wrote:People who know a lot about Sharifistan:
Would most Sharifistani women be happy?

Nobody would be happy in a hellhole with no social mobility and where every war results in 2/3rds of the male population being killed.
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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:26 am

Dayganistan wrote:
Champagne Socialist Sharifistan wrote:People who know a lot about Sharifistan:
Would most Sharifistani women be happy?

Nobody would be happy in a hellhole with no social mobility and where every war results in 2/3rds of the male population being killed.

And ruled by an aristocracy that makes the last Shah of Iran look intelligent. <.>
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Champagne Socialist Sharifistan
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Postby Champagne Socialist Sharifistan » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:52 am

Dayganistan wrote:
Champagne Socialist Sharifistan wrote:People who know a lot about Sharifistan:
Would most Sharifistani women be happy?

Nobody would be happy in a hellhole with no social mobility and where every war results in 2/3rds of the male population being killed.


There is social mobility,
How do you think they make up the numbers of dead officers?
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Postby Champagne Socialist Sharifistan » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:53 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Dayganistan wrote:Nobody would be happy in a hellhole with no social mobility and where every war results in 2/3rds of the male population being killed.

And ruled by an aristocracy that makes the last Shah of Iran look intelligent. <.>

They are intelligent. What about their military doctrine is ineffective (I read the link on here about designing YN's military doctrine)
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Founder of the Traditionalist Military Alliance:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=493756
The Turkish War of Independence and everything before along with 2014 modernisation are set in stone.
Everything else is subject to change

Black Lives Matter!

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Spirit of Hope
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Postby Spirit of Hope » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:02 am

Champagne Socialist Sharifistan wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:And ruled by an aristocracy that makes the last Shah of Iran look intelligent. <.>

They are intelligent. What about their military doctrine is ineffective (I read the link on here about designing YN's military doctrine)


The fact that they apparently routinely loose 2/3 rds of the male population would lend one to believe that the leadership of a nation is rather incompetent.
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Postby Champagne Socialist Sharifistan » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:09 am

Spirit of Hope wrote:
Champagne Socialist Sharifistan wrote:They are intelligent. What about their military doctrine is ineffective (I read the link on here about designing YN's military doctrine)


The fact that they apparently routinely loose 2/3 rds of the male population would lend one to believe that the leadership of a nation is rather incompetent.

That's mostly not in battle,
also whilst it's morally disgusting the high casualty rates can be made up for in terms of winning wars due to the huge population
A nation which partly represents my views.
Founder of the Traditionalist Military Alliance:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=493756
The Turkish War of Independence and everything before along with 2014 modernisation are set in stone.
Everything else is subject to change

Black Lives Matter!

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Spirit of Hope
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Postby Spirit of Hope » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:11 am

Champagne Socialist Sharifistan wrote:
Spirit of Hope wrote:
The fact that they apparently routinely loose 2/3 rds of the male population would lend one to believe that the leadership of a nation is rather incompetent.

That's mostly not in battle,
also whilst it's morally disgusting the high casualty rates can be made up for in terms of winning wars due to the huge population

Did I say that the loss of population was only due to war? Again, if you nation has a problem where large chunks of the male population don't make it to 30, your nation has a problem and the rulers are rather incompetent if they can't fix it.
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Champagne Socialist Sharifistan
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Postby Champagne Socialist Sharifistan » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:15 am

Spirit of Hope wrote:
Champagne Socialist Sharifistan wrote:That's mostly not in battle,
also whilst it's morally disgusting the high casualty rates can be made up for in terms of winning wars due to the huge population

Did I say that the loss of population was only due to war? Again, if you nation has a problem where large chunks of the male population don't make it to 30, your nation has a problem and the rulers are rather incompetent if they can't fix it.

the previous Sultan wasn't fixing it because he thought it worked.
(It actually makes this specific society function better, allowing more men to find a wife as well as the fact that some of the overwork that largely caused this also enables a successful arms industry to support the various wars the government do).
The Prince-Regent who currently rules has been in power less than a year and is dealing with a civil war and an external war (soon to be 2 external wars) as well as making sure COVID-19 deaths don't suddenly rise.
A nation which partly represents my views.
Founder of the Traditionalist Military Alliance:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=493756
The Turkish War of Independence and everything before along with 2014 modernisation are set in stone.
Everything else is subject to change

Black Lives Matter!

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Spirit of Hope
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Postby Spirit of Hope » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:22 am

Champagne Socialist Sharifistan wrote:
Spirit of Hope wrote:Did I say that the loss of population was only due to war? Again, if you nation has a problem where large chunks of the male population don't make it to 30, your nation has a problem and the rulers are rather incompetent if they can't fix it.

the previous Sultan wasn't fixing it because he thought it worked.
(It actually makes this specific society function better, allowing more men to find a wife as well as the fact that some of the overwork that largely caused this also enables a successful arms industry to support the various wars the government do).
The Prince-Regent who currently rules has been in power less than a year and is dealing with a civil war and an external war (soon to be 2 external wars) as well as making sure COVID-19 deaths don't suddenly rise.

So yeah the previous guy was incompetent, this is even assuming the premise is even slightly realistic, which it isn't. COVID is a laughable issue compared to everything else you have going on.
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Postby Crookfur » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:24 am

Champagne Socialist Sharifistan wrote:
Spirit of Hope wrote:Did I say that the loss of population was only due to war? Again, if you nation has a problem where large chunks of the male population don't make it to 30, your nation has a problem and the rulers are rather incompetent if they can't fix it.

the previous Sultan wasn't fixing it because he thought it worked.
(It actually makes this specific society function better, allowing more men to find a wife as well as the fact that some of the overwork that largely caused this also enables a successful arms industry to support the various wars the government do).
The Prince-Regent who currently rules has been in power less than a year and is dealing with a civil war and an external war (soon to be 2 external wars) as well as making sure COVID-19 deaths don't suddenly rise.

Yeah none of these issues are going to result in a populace that is remotely happy, regardless of sex/gender.
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Champagne Socialist Sharifistan
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Postby Champagne Socialist Sharifistan » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:31 am

Crookfur wrote:
Champagne Socialist Sharifistan wrote:the previous Sultan wasn't fixing it because he thought it worked.
(It actually makes this specific society function better, allowing more men to find a wife as well as the fact that some of the overwork that largely caused this also enables a successful arms industry to support the various wars the government do).
The Prince-Regent who currently rules has been in power less than a year and is dealing with a civil war and an external war (soon to be 2 external wars) as well as making sure COVID-19 deaths don't suddenly rise.

Yeah none of these issues are going to result in a populace that is remotely happy, regardless of sex/gender.


Women are happy in spite of this for reasons I will explain later.
Also it's the men that are dying of overwork and it's mostly the men that are getting shot in wars.
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A nation which partly represents my views.
Founder of the Traditionalist Military Alliance:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=493756
The Turkish War of Independence and everything before along with 2014 modernisation are set in stone.
Everything else is subject to change

Black Lives Matter!

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Purpelia
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Postby Purpelia » Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:24 pm

Champagne Socialist Sharifistan wrote:
Crookfur wrote:Yeah none of these issues are going to result in a populace that is remotely happy, regardless of sex/gender.


Women are happy in spite of this for reasons I will explain later.
Also it's the men that are dying of overwork and it's mostly the men that are getting shot in wars.

I give your society at most a year before it collapses or is overrun.
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The above post contains hyperbole, metaphoric language, embellishment and exaggeration. It may also include badly translated figures of speech and misused idioms. Analyze accordingly.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:25 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Champagne Socialist Sharifistan wrote:
Women are happy in spite of this for reasons I will explain later.
Also it's the men that are dying of overwork and it's mostly the men that are getting shot in wars.

I give your society at most a year before it collapses or is overrun.

We're always up for erecting guilloutines in Not!Somalias. <.>
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Postby Champagne Socialist Sharifistan » Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:43 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Champagne Socialist Sharifistan wrote:
Women are happy in spite of this for reasons I will explain later.
Also it's the men that are dying of overwork and it's mostly the men that are getting shot in wars.

I give your society at most a year before it collapses or is overrun.

Collapsed how? Overrun by whom?

Can you give examples of how it would fail to work?
Revolutions would not happen due to the obvious noblesse oblige exercised by the ruling class combined with a large military, well-funded and competent police and intelligence service and the influence of religion (mostly Islam)
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Founder of the Traditionalist Military Alliance:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=493756
The Turkish War of Independence and everything before along with 2014 modernisation are set in stone.
Everything else is subject to change

Black Lives Matter!

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