Worldbuilding Realism Consultation Thread Mk. 4

[Manokan Republic]

SC's economical model is for the most part a totalitarian planned economy, but it allows some very small, family-size type businesses in the countryside. That said, if a business becomes ''too large'' in its opinion, it will be either broken apart, or sunken down, as larger market is reserved exclusively in state's company hands.

There is also the upper class (The Party, Military, Intellectuals, Priests, etc.), and for the most part, state's economy is ran by megacorporations, from which a few, or even only one controls all production of one kind of a good. (For example, Colt's Manufacturing Company produces basically all of SC's weapons in its timeline, but Boeing - all of its aircraft, and they have various regional branches across the country, which are often other absorbed companies.)

That said, those corporations are under direct state's control - their CEOs are often retired generals, politicians, or experts in an one particular field, and it can set the wages for CEOs, and also enforce stricter labor laws, if necessary. Labor unions also exist there, but under strict management of the government, as independent labor unions are not allowed in SC. So, state can both lax the safety regulations, and increase them, if it feels a need for either appeasing the CEOs, or workers. In short, it tries to control everything, and is a friend of neither.

What kind of economical system could that be?

An oligarchy? Basically instead of a dictatorship it's a bunch of smaller dictatorships or other leaders working together.

Also a corporatist, socialist economy doesn't really make a whole lot of sense. I guess if it was sort of like Russia that might make sense; they own Kalashnikov for example, but it's kind of a hybrid psuedo open market thing. In this case, the government is clearly in control however.

[Kazarogkai]

SC's economical model is for the most part a totalitarian planned economy, but it allows some very small, family-size type businesses in the countryside. That said, if a business becomes ''too large'' in its opinion, it will be either broken apart, or sunken down, as larger market is reserved exclusively in state's company hands.

There is also the upper class (The Party, Military, Intellectuals, Priests, etc.), and for the most part, state's economy is ran by megacorporations, from which a few, or even only one controls all production of one kind of a good. (For example, Colt's Manufacturing Company produces basically all of SC's weapons in its timeline, but Boeing - all of its aircraft, and they have various regional branches across the country, which are often other absorbed companies.)

That said, those corporations are under direct state's control - their CEOs are often retired generals, politicians, or experts in an one particular field, and it can set the wages for CEOs, and also enforce stricter labor laws, if necessary. Labor unions also exist there, but under strict management of the government, as independent labor unions are not allowed in SC. So, state can both lax the safety regulations, and increase them, if it feels a need for either appeasing the CEOs, or workers. In short, it tries to control everything, and is a friend of neither.

What kind of economical system could that be?

An oligarchy? Basically instead of a dictatorship it's a bunch of smaller dictatorships or other leaders working together.

Also a corporatist, socialist economy doesn't really make a whole lot of sense. I guess if it was sort of like Russia that might make sense; they own Kalashnikov for example, but it's kind of a hybrid psuedo open market thing. In this case, the government is clearly in control however.

Isn't that basically what strasserism is all about, putting socialist in national socialist?

[Celitannia]

Seem to recall Galla mentioning how the CPC controls/funds its own opposition but after extensive google-fu I couldn't find any sources. I don't doubt that he/she/they are right but would appreciate some links.

[Austrasien]

Seem to recall Galla mentioning how the CPC controls/funds its own opposition but after extensive google-fu I couldn't find any sources. I don't doubt that he/she/they are right but would appreciate some links.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_p ... s_in_China

[Gallia-]

Seem to recall Galla mentioning how the CPC controls/funds its own opposition but after extensive google-fu I couldn't find any sources. I don't doubt that he/she/they are right but would appreciate some links.

i dont remember this but ill take your word for it it sounds like something that galla guy would say because i agree w/ it

ill have to assemble a plenary session of the katbrain to figure out which fruiting body typed it

curse the distributed nervous system

[Manokan Republic]

An oligarchy? Basically instead of a dictatorship it's a bunch of smaller dictatorships or other leaders working together.

Also a corporatist, socialist economy doesn't really make a whole lot of sense. I guess if it was sort of like Russia that might make sense; they own Kalashnikov for example, but it's kind of a hybrid psuedo open market thing. In this case, the government is clearly in control however.

Isn't that basically what strasserism is all about, putting socialist in national socialist?

Hmm... honestly idk. O.o

[Kyneland]

What are some reasonable potential names I could use for a pagan Scandinavia NS? I know what it says rn in my signature, but I’m thinking of creating a separate puppet for the idea.
In this idea’s timeline, Scandinavia unified under a reformed and reorganised pagan kingdom in the medieval period and has remained unified since. There’s also a single Scandinavian language but with multiple dialects.

[Manokan Republic]

What are some reasonable potential names I could use for a pagan Scandinavia NS? I know what it says rn in my signature, but I’m thinking of creating a separate puppet for the idea.
In this idea’s timeline, Scandinavia unified under a reformed and reorganised pagan kingdom in the medieval period and has remained unified since. There’s also a single Scandinavian language but with multiple dialects.

Something with the term nordic or celtic in it, or the like, so like the United Republics of Nordic countries or something. The simpler thing is, Scandinavia, which sums up the region anyways, and isn't an actual country, but could be a country in your universe. It also could incorporate more countries in than what is typically seen in Scandinavia today, and the term is often used to apply o different countries than technically fall in the category anyways.

So... Scandinavia!

[Taihei Tengoku]

What are some reasonable potential names I could use for a pagan Scandinavia NS? I know what it says rn in my signature, but I’m thinking of creating a separate puppet for the idea.
In this idea’s timeline, Scandinavia unified under a reformed and reorganised pagan kingdom in the medieval period and has remained unified since. There’s also a single Scandinavian language but with multiple dialects.

Norway

[Kedri]

I want Kedri to be very racially diverse.

The indigenous population are Melanesians, but Europeans arrived in the 1500s and the archipelago attracted pirates from all over the world, but primarily from the British Isles. Kedri does not have much of a history of slavery beyond some pirates selling slaves, but Kedrians having very little use for actual slave labor, but I want to justify a sizable black population. I’d describe the demographics as the majority of modern Kedrians as being mixed or non-white, but whites are just the largest single ethnic group.

Also, Kedri has also attracted Asian and Barbary pirates as well, and I imagine some ethnicities flock to Kedri for work.

Does any of this sound plausible?

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

What are some reasonable potential names I could use for a pagan Scandinavia NS? I know what it says rn in my signature, but I’m thinking of creating a separate puppet for the idea.
In this idea’s timeline, Scandinavia unified under a reformed and reorganised pagan kingdom in the medieval period and has remained unified since. There’s also a single Scandinavian language but with multiple dialects.

That depends largely on what your government is. "Republic/Kingdom of Scandinavia", "North Sea Empire", "Nordic Union", et cetera all have potential.

[Purpelia]

Could you guys take a peak at the latest post I made in my factbook and tell me an assessment nation vise of the implications there of?

[Manokan Republic]

I want Kedri to be very racially diverse.

The indigenous population are Melanesians, but Europeans arrived in the 1500s and the archipelago attracted pirates from all over the world, but primarily from the British Isles. Kedri does not have much of a history of slavery beyond some pirates selling slaves, but Kedrians having very little use for actual slave labor, but I want to justify a sizable black population. I’d describe the demographics as the majority of modern Kedrians as being mixed or non-white, but whites are just the largest single ethnic group.

Also, Kedri has also attracted Asian and Barbary pirates as well, and I imagine some ethnicities flock to Kedri for work.

Does any of this sound plausible?

They could be imported as workers instead of slaves. One thing that has happened a lot in recent history is the movement of people between countries for economic and environmental reasons. Canada is full of French people, Mexico Spanish, and the U.S. English, and the list goes on and on. Why? Well, the natural movement of people is a thing; there's china towns in the U.S. due to a sudden boom in asian immigration in some places, and there were Irish and Italian places as well, with the Italian mafia forming for example in the U.S., with a large number of Italian people moving to Detroit and Chicago. The immigration was due to hardship in their own countries or economic reasons, and a lot of times happened in some ways at random. I don't think it's necessarily a problem that black people moved to that region at the time, even if it was't due to slavery.

The other alternative is that run-away slaves fled to your country and your country accepted them in, hence why freed slaves or other people migrated to your country to avoid being reenslaved, mistreated etc. and the large enclave of people attracted non-slaves of the same demographic as well.

[The Akasha Colony]

I want Kedri to be very racially diverse.

The indigenous population are Melanesians, but Europeans arrived in the 1500s and the archipelago attracted pirates from all over the world, but primarily from the British Isles. Kedri does not have much of a history of slavery beyond some pirates selling slaves, but Kedrians having very little use for actual slave labor, but I want to justify a sizable black population. I’d describe the demographics as the majority of modern Kedrians as being mixed or non-white, but whites are just the largest single ethnic group.

Also, Kedri has also attracted Asian and Barbary pirates as well, and I imagine some ethnicities flock to Kedri for work.

Does any of this sound plausible?

If there is a suitable reason for them to come, then they will come.

What you want is not too far off from the general demographic pattern of, say, Hawaii.

[Manokan Republic]

Could you guys take a peak at the latest post I made in my factbook and tell me an assessment nation vise of the implications there of?

The smile one? It's okay, just rather vague.

[Iltica]

Pretty sure this won't work already but is there any plausible way to produce enough food to sustain a self-sufficient colony in Antarctica?... In the late 19th century?

[Purpelia]

Pretty sure this won't work already but is there any plausible way to produce enough food to sustain a self-sufficient colony in Antarctica?... In the late 19th century?

That depends on the size and living standards of your colony as well as how you define production. Do you count fishing and wailing ships being sent out to distant waters and returning with food for example?

[Iltica]

That probably wouldn't cut it in the long term, they would need some sort of agriculture/livestock to survive.

Not sure where they're getting fuel either now that you mentioned it. Is there coal or oil in Antarctica? I know it used to be forested millions of years ago.

[Purpelia]

That probably wouldn't cut it in the long term, they would need some sort of agriculture/livestock to survive.

Not sure where they're getting fuel either now that you mentioned it. Is there coal or oil in Antarctica? I know it used to be forested millions of years ago.

Not really. At least not that you could access at the time.

Really the closest thing to a settlement you could establish there is some sort of whaling outpost or similar that relies heavily on imports of everything but can possibly feed it self partially from fishing, hunting and whaling whilst exporting the at the time lucrative products back to Europe. But even than the question becomes why you'd try and do that and not just settle some place nicer.

[Crookfur]

That probably wouldn't cut it in the long term, they would need some sort of agriculture/livestock to survive.

Not sure where they're getting fuel either now that you mentioned it. Is there coal or oil in Antarctica? I know it used to be forested millions of years ago.

IIRC there were some strandings and research stations in islands fairly close by that managed to survive relatively well for years at a time but they mostly started with a lot of long term suuplies and largely lived on penguin. Apparently curried penguin is quite good...

[Iltica]

Yeah that's not really sustainable for something as large as what I had in mind, they have to gain independence eventually. Thanks anyway.

Might just have to move everything to strangereal, I can't really think of any other "edge of the world" places that might have significant resources except maybe a fictional peninsula that people just missed... somehow.

[Kedri]

How much power should the national government of a confederation have?

Kedri is really a group of several nations that collectively form one larger nation. On the national scale, Kedri can be described as minarchist and laissez-faire and most of the member states practice some form of direct democracy and classical liberalism, albeit to varying degrees.

The national government was formed mainly for ease of international diplomacy with Kedri (so foreign nations wouldn’t have to send ambassadors to each little nation in Kedri), mutual defense, and a common currency. Beyond that, just about anything goes.

[Purpelia]

Yeah that's not really sustainable for something as large as what I had in mind, they have to gain independence eventually. Thanks anyway.

Might just have to move everything to strangereal, I can't really think of any other "edge of the world" places that might have significant resources except maybe a fictional peninsula that people just missed... somehow.

Just make up a Greenland like island with slightly better climate or something. As long as you stay away from literally being in the polar region and put it somewhere in between (see Iceland) you'll be fine.

[Iltica]

Ok, I'll have to do some research as to what areas were explored and when.

[Kasoga]

How much power should the national government of a confederation have?

Strictly speaking, a confederation is a system where sovereignty lies in the constituent polities. The confederal government can be as limited or extensive as its constituents want it to be, as long each polity can legally supersede its decisions or leave the confederation.