Military Ground Vehicles of Your Nation [NO MECHS] Type 6

[Gallia-]

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US Economy was roughly three times the size of the USSR in 1950. China was smaller the Britain, France or Germany.

Alright, fair enough. Guerilla wars seem to be an exception to the rule, then.

Any others?

Korea wasn't a "guerilla" war.

[New Tyran]

Even mighty Abrams doesn't have it ):
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Yeah and look how many wars Abrams has lost.

Tanks should be like 40% armour 30% ammunition 15% engine 5% cyberbrain:



You need like three CENTAGs and 50 Minuteman missiles to stop this dude.

Then you have to deal with the manned mechanised division behind him. o:

Get owned son.

What in God's name is that?

[Immoren]

Yeah and look how many wars Abrams has lost.

Tanks should be like 40% armour 30% ammunition 15% engine 5% cyberbrain:



You need like three CENTAGs and 50 Minuteman missiles to stop this dude.

Then you have to deal with the manned mechanised division behind him. o:

Get owned son.

What in God's name is that?

Ogre.

[Gallia-]

Yeah and look how many wars Abrams has lost.

Tanks should be like 40% armour 30% ammunition 15% engine 5% cyberbrain:



You need like three CENTAGs and 50 Minuteman missiles to stop this dude.

Then you have to deal with the manned mechanised division behind him. o:

Get owned son.

What in God's name is that?

A North American Combine designed Mark VI.

[New Tyran]

What in God's name is that?

Ogre.

I see.

[The New Lowlands]

Alright, fair enough. Guerilla wars seem to be an exception to the rule, then.

Any others?

Korea wasn't a "guerilla" war.

And the UN won.

[Vetok]

Yeah and look how many wars Abrams has lost.

Tanks should be like 40% armour 30% ammunition 15% engine 5% cyberbrain:



You need like three CENTAGs and 50 Minuteman missiles to stop this dude.

Then you have to deal with the manned mechanised division behind him. o:

Get owned son.

What in God's name is that?

An Ogre from a 70's boardgame which has recently been re-released. Basically a downgraded Bolo.

[Oaledonia]

Korea wasn't a "guerilla" war.

And the UN won.

[Gallia-]

Korea wasn't a "guerilla" war.

And the UN won.

No, it didn't. If the UN had won, there would be no North Korea.

What in God's name is that?

An Ogre from a 70's boardgame which has recently been re-released. Basically a downgraded Bolo.

It's more like an evil Bolo.

And the UN won.

They're celebrating their liberation from communism and Juche by brave UN stormtroopers. ; _ ;

Don't you understand, Oale? Economic power is the key to everything. Winning wars, beating cancer, quitting alcohol, human trafficking, etc.

[New Tyran]

What in God's name is that?

An Ogre from a 70's boardgame which has recently been re-released. Basically a downgraded Bolo.

Huh, I'm going to look into this.

[The New Lowlands]

And the UN won.

No, it didn't. If the UN had won, there would be no North Korea.

Considering the UN's goal was to prevent South Korea being overrun...

If the UN lost, there would be no South Korea. As it stands, there is a South Korea. North Korea's goal was to destroy South Korea. They failed. The UN won.

Just because winning didn't beam an American flag onto every newborn's heart doesn't mean one didn't win.

[Kouralia]

No, it didn't. If the UN had won, there would be no North Korea.

Considering the UN's goal was to prevent South Korea being overrun...

If the UN lost, there would be no South Korea. As it stands, there is a South Korea. North Korea's goal was to destroy South Korea. They failed. The UN won.

Just because winning didn't beam an American flag onto every newborn's heart doesn't mean one didn't win.

Arguably the UN won, but the US part-way through changed and led the change in war aims. The US lost, definitely. The UN can be considered to have won if you think 'eh, they didn't start the war wanting to invade BestKorea'.

[Gallia-]

No, it didn't. If the UN had won, there would be no North Korea.

Considering the UN's goal was to prevent South Korea being overrun...

If the UN lost, there would be no South Korea. As it stands, there is a South Korea. North Korea's goal was to destroy South Korea. They failed. The UN won.

Just because winning didn't beam an American flag onto every newborn's heart doesn't mean one didn't win.

The risk of South Korea being overrun exists to this day.

Oale put it quite aptly, actually.

[The New Lowlands]

Considering the UN's goal was to prevent South Korea being overrun...

If the UN lost, there would be no South Korea. As it stands, there is a South Korea. North Korea's goal was to destroy South Korea. They failed. The UN won.

Just because winning didn't beam an American flag onto every newborn's heart doesn't mean one didn't win.

The risk of South Korea being overrun exists to this day.

Being nuked? Yes. Being overrun? Not really. South Korea maintains close relations with both Japan and the United States, if you've forgotten.

[The Kievan People]

Let us summarize: So economics wins wars when it wins wars, but when it doesn't it doesn't.

[Gallia-]

The risk of South Korea being overrun exists to this day.

Being nuked? Yes. Being overrun? Not really. South Korea maintains close relations with both Japan and the United States, if you've forgotten.

So, it maintains close relations with dominant regional and global economic hegemonies, has an extensive economy itself, against a pariah state supported by the world equivalent of welfare.

How has North Korea not collapsed under this economic onslaught by the West? o:

[The New Lowlands]

Being nuked? Yes. Being overrun? Not really. South Korea maintains close relations with both Japan and the United States, if you've forgotten.

So, it maintains close relations with dominant regional and global economic hegemonies, has an extensive economy itself, against a pariah state supported by the world equivalent of welfare.

How has North Korea not collapsed under this economic onslaught by the West? o:

Because China.

Let us summarize: So economics wins wars when it wins wars, but when it doesn't it doesn't.

Economics wins conventional wars.

[Gallia-]

So, it maintains close relations with dominant regional and global economic hegemonies, has an extensive economy itself, against a pariah state supported by the world equivalent of welfare.

How has North Korea not collapsed under this economic onslaught by the West? o:

Because China.

Let us summarize: So economics wins wars when it wins wars, but when it doesn't it doesn't.

Economics wins conventional wars.

1) China doesn't like North Korea, do you not know what pariah means? China isn't even that much of an economic power, it's mostly a backwater industrial state with limited regional hard power. It's certainly far inferior to the USA and Japan together, let alone the USA's network of military alliances through NATO who are potential UNC allies.

2) Except Korea.

[United States of PA]

Sooo...... my tank??????........ or anyone else's tank??????

[Gallia-]

Sooo...... my tank??????........ or anyone else's tank??????

Tanks are useless you should spend more points developing your economy stats.

[The New Lowlands]

Because China.

Economics wins conventional wars.

1) China doesn't like North Korea, do you not know what pariah means? China isn't even that much of an economic power, it's mostly a backwater industrial state with limited regional hard power. It's certainly far inferior to the USA and Japan together, let alone the USA's network of military alliances through NATO who are potential UNC allies.

2) Except Korea.

1) China supplies them with oil and such.

2) The UN won.

Sooo...... my tank??????........ or anyone else's tank??????

Tanks are useless you should spend more points developing your economy stats.

If you're going to be disingenuous, you can fuck off.

[Zeinbrad]

Anyways, besides the whole OMG North Korea won the Korean War! No UN! No North Korea! No UN! Nuh-huh! I shall tell you what the current main battle tank of the Amcarian armed forces is like.

it's like if the M1A3 Abrams, Challenger 2 and Leopard 2A7 had a baby.

Give me all your money.

[Oaledonia]

Sooo...... my tank??????........ or anyone else's tank??????

Tanks are useless you should spend more points developing your economy stats.

Damn, blew all my points on SPAAGs and TDs.....



Problem solved

[Gallia-]

Tanks are useless you should spend more points developing your economy stats.

Damn, blew all my points on SPAAGs and TDs.....



Problem solved

You should re-spec your country to "Money-Hoarding Pacifists" (AKA Swiss) in that case.

Why is the machine gun backwards btw? Was it just slewed that way and left there?

[Oaledonia]

Damn, blew all my points on SPAAGs and TDs.....



Problem solved

You should re-spec your country to "Money-Hoarding Pacifists" (AKA Swiss) in that case.

Why is the machine gun backwards btw? Was it just slewed that way and left there?

It's just thrown backwards for easy access given the open top.
It's a Type 64.