Military Ground Vehicles of Your Nation [NO MECHS] Type 6

[Macedonian Grand Empire]

Is there any NS tank that can reasonably claim to be capable of taking a 123mm top attack tandem HEAT round to the turret roof and keep fighting without it being total wank?

Doubt that. But getting hits to the roof of the turret is not something you can do all the time. It is impossible.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

And yes. HT9 and SA-21 are splendid, I acknowledge that. But they're not Deutsch.
*Goes to mod Leo2A6 in reserves for bustle autoloader and Swedish armour*

Get a new turret. The main reason why RL leopards are like they are is because of costs. And nations continuing to cut defense budget. Going so you can also change its main gun to the 140 L 55 and just give them a new designation. Pretty much can punch any kind of NS armor.

I'm not paying for a completely new turret on reserve armour...

[Macedonian Grand Empire]

Get a new turret. The main reason why RL leopards are like they are is because of costs. And nations continuing to cut defense budget. Going so you can also change its main gun to the 140 L 55 and just give them a new designation. Pretty much can punch any kind of NS armor.

I'm not paying for a new turret on reserve armour...

In that case the current turret I doubt it can take an autoloader without a total redesign. I can be wrong but that is my opinion.

[Purpelia]

Is there any NS tank that can reasonably claim to be capable of taking a 123mm top attack tandem HEAT round to the turret roof and keep fighting without it being total wank?

Doubt that. But getting hits to the roof of the turret is not something you can do all the time. It is impossible.

I was merely asking because I am contemplating the idea of not switching over to 140mm guns but instead investing into top attack fire and forget missiles to fire from my existing platforms. I figure that the smaller rounds and thus larger round storage as well as the overall impact on the size and weight of my tank would allow me to offset any losses in the capability to take on tanks that can't be pierced by 14cm guns across the front anyway from the front.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

I'm not paying for a new turret on reserve armour...

In that case the current turret I doubt it can take an autoloader without a total redesign. I can be wrong but that is my opinion.

Mat seems to be of another opinion.

[Macedonian Grand Empire]

Doubt that. But getting hits to the roof of the turret is not something you can do all the time. It is impossible.

I was merely asking because I am contemplating the idea of not switching over to 140mm guns but instead investing into top attack fire and forget missiles to fire from my existing platforms. I figure that the smaller rounds and thus larger round storage as well as the overall impact on the size and weight of my tank would allow me to offset any losses in the capability to take on tanks that can't be pierced by 14cm guns across the front anyway from the front.

The active defense systems of MBT will come into play. Soft and hard kill systems as well. Jamming and so on. That could be a problem. Plus in NS they are quite more modern.

In that case the current turret I doubt it can take an autoloader without a total redesign. I can be wrong but that is my opinion.

Mat seems to be of another opinion.

You will need a turret redesign no matter what. If it was only the bustle ammo rack it would have been easier. This way you will need to change all the lines that pass there, the radios and part of the electronics. It would cost the same as a new turret.

[Questers]

In that case the current turret I doubt it can take an autoloader without a total redesign. I can be wrong but that is my opinion.

Mat seems to be of another opinion.

"cannot verify legitimacy of this picture"

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Mat seems to be of another opinion.

"cannot verify legitimacy of this picture"

This is a make-believe game is it not? Or is this a research paper Mat?
*moves radio down to the former munitionsbunker*

[Imperializt Russia]

does this mean T2009A3 or whatever I call it now is not bad?

about fuking tiem.

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i think its an older picture, im sure of it, but its the only one I have uploaded right now so fuck it

super frenchy tank w/ 125mm smoothbore gun able to wreck the grill of any NS tank, plus it has euro era and fancy armor arrays a fancy APS (Might go to LEDS for funsies), super LED screen retina buring screens and also has two (2) M2A1s (Most likely going to be BRG-15s when I change it) for fuck light vehicles and infantry.

Might do a silly 20mm chain gun so I can spend allot of money on being useless against IFVs when not putting a HEAT round though it. Just annoy the fuck out of the infantry and crew.

Maybe give the commander a RWS mounted BRG-15 & a MILAN launcher?

Yes, I think thats good. I should also do a coaxial MILAN launcher as well.

I'd just like to quickly put in for a copyright claim on commander's AT RWS.

Mat seems to be of another opinion.

"cannot verify legitimacy of this picture"

Since Anemos said the CITV module took up space that a bustle jiggling could have used to insert ammo, I'm also fairly certain it's not really legit.
Unless that's representing an enormous bustle extension.

[Macedonian Grand Empire]

"cannot verify legitimacy of this picture"

This is a make-believe game is it not? Or is this a research paper Mat?
*moves radio down to the former munitionsbunker*

you have the hydraulic lines as well there. Reserve mechanisms and so on. It is not only the radio if it was that easy then KMW would have already done that. If money are not a problem then you can do that and say that as easy. But the cost that will be translated would mean that it would have been the same if you put a new turret on. It is your choice btw.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

does this mean T2009A3 or whatever I call it now is not bad?

about fuking tiem.

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i think its an older picture, im sure of it, but its the only one I have uploaded right now so fuck it

super frenchy tank w/ 125mm smoothbore gun able to wreck the grill of any NS tank, plus it has euro era and fancy armor arrays a fancy APS (Might go to LEDS for funsies), super LED screen retina buring screens and also has two (2) M2A1s (Most likely going to be BRG-15s when I change it) for fuck light vehicles and infantry.

Might do a silly 20mm chain gun so I can spend allot of money on being useless against IFVs when not putting a HEAT round though it. Just annoy the fuck out of the infantry and crew.

Maybe give the commander a RWS mounted BRG-15 & a MILAN launcher?

Yes, I think thats good. I should also do a coaxial MILAN launcher as well.

I'd just like to quickly put in for a copyright claim on commander's AT RWS.

"cannot verify legitimacy of this picture"

Since Anemos said the CITV module took up space that a bustle jiggling could have used to insert ammo, I'm also fairly certain it's not really legit.
Unless that's representing an enormous bustle extension.

Forget fancy autoloader then, can I reposition things from the bustle to make room for like 20 rounds of 12 cm?

[Purpelia]

Yes, I think thats good. I should also do a coaxial MILAN launcher as well.

Only on NS. Seriously, I get the feeling that the reason for the ever more insane RWS mounts on NS tanks has to do with the fact that every player fancies him self a tank commander and than starts feeling inadequate compared to the gunner because the gets to brandish that long thick gun and all. And so people desperately try to compensate.

One of these days the economic threads are going to go: Would you like a separately controllable anti tank launcher on your anti air sights for your remotely controllable hypersonic anti ship missile dispenser mounted on the drivers hatch sir? They are on sale, 15% off until next week.

[Riysa]

Yes, I think thats good. I should also do a coaxial MILAN launcher as well.

Only on NS. Seriously, I get the feeling that the reason for the ever more insane RWS mounts on NS tanks has to do with the fact that every player fancies him self a tank commander and than starts feeling inadequate compared to the gunner because the gets to brandish that long thick gun and all.

RWS L7 105mm.

Because everyone has to compensate in some way.

[Purpelia]

Only on NS. Seriously, I get the feeling that the reason for the ever more insane RWS mounts on NS tanks has to do with the fact that every player fancies him self a tank commander and than starts feeling inadequate compared to the gunner because the gets to brandish that long thick gun and all.

RWS L7 105mm.

Because everyone has to compensate in some way.

But I do it sanely. By keeping my entire tank corps female and making innuendos.

[Registug]

Don't forget the orgies

I hope you never intend to actually write any of this

[Questers]

<- has never put an autocannon on a tank

[Purpelia]

Don't forget the orgies

I hope you never intend to actually write any of this

Of course not. At least not openly. You see, I fancy my self a master of the implied. The less you say, the more is left to the mind of the reader. And by saying basically nothing and only throwing in a hint left or right when no one is looking I hope to spur the imagination of those that know me from these threads whilst at the same time leaving oblivious those that don't.

But all in due time my friends. All in due time.


Although I might use some of the stuff for comedic effect at some point. Like having my tankers ambushed by ground attack aircraft whilst sunbathing naked on the roof of their tank. But again, I would not actually reveal anything, only imply it at some point in the text. Like say the moment near the end of the scene where I stop to mention them remembering to put on their uniform... And you look back and go O_o.

Really, that scene bloody needs writing right now!

[Lydenburg]

Here's to the new thread!

[Imperializt Russia]

I'd just like to quickly put in for a copyright claim on commander's AT RWS.
Since Anemos said the CITV module took up space that a bustle jiggling could have used to insert ammo, I'm also fairly certain it's not really legit.
Unless that's representing an enormous bustle extension.

Forget fancy autoloader then, can I reposition things from the bustle to make room for like 20 rounds of 12 cm?

I think I basically asked that before, but can't remember the answer I got.
I initially suggested moving the communications and electronics gear from the bustle to where the hull stowage cage is, but then Anemos pointed out the bustle intrusion posed by the CITV module, which I imagine would impede the ability to use it for shell stowage, especially a system like Meggitt.

[Oaledonia]

RWS L7 105mm.

Because everyone has to compensate in some way.

But I do it sanely. By keeping my entire tank corps female and making innuendos.

Everyone feels inadequate to my Strike Witches

[Imperializt Russia]

<- has never put an autocannon on a tank

I consider the BRG to be sufficiently autocannon.

[Purpelia]

But I do it sanely. By keeping my entire tank corps female and making innuendos.

Everyone feels inadequate to my Strike Witches

Do they drive tanks around too?

[New Tsavon]

Four pages so far and yet, not MBT-70's?

I'm disappointed, I thought you were all better than this. Well, in any case, I'll fix that.

[Questers]

<- has never put an autocannon on a tank

I consider the BRG to be sufficiently autocannon.

Surely not.

[Oaledonia]

Everyone feels inadequate to my Strike Witches

Do they drive tanks around too?

Well, they basically are tanks.