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Who will OP the next MGVoYN[NM] thread?

Imperializt Russia
39
25%
Anemos Major
52
33%
Questers
8
5%
Dragomere
21
13%
Dostanuot Loj
5
3%
The Kievan People
22
14%
Oaledonia
12
8%
 
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Kouralia
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Postby Kouralia » Fri Apr 25, 2014 3:45 pm

Gallia- wrote:
Kouralia wrote:What was that, white-beret'd, MT Airborne troops engaging AT (Asshole Tech - i.e. FT but also hostile to me) troops with ATGMs?

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>white beret
>paras

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Gallan infantry would just volley fire M72s until it dies.

White beret for two reasons: firstly, the unit originally chosen for parachute training was descended from arctic riflemen/militia/specialist regiment (basically, who wore a grey-white uniform). When allocating beret colours they received white ones because of the tradition. Another of the units which formed initial airborne elements had blue ones, but demanded to swap to white ones for reasons of ego and bullshit. They were assented to, and ultimately that started the spread of the white beret.

This is the origin of the slang for a paratrooper in Kouralia who arrogantly sees their paratrooper status as making them innately 'better' than someone from the regular infantry (usually in situations where being able to jump out of a plane makes little difference to capability) as a 'special little snowflake' (best said in an over the top mocking tone, as if addressing a five year old "Aren't you a special little snowflake?").
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Postby Kouralia » Fri Apr 25, 2014 3:52 pm

Gallia- wrote:Gallan paratroopers are basically CAR.

Sorry, CAR?
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Postby Gallia- » Fri Apr 25, 2014 3:52 pm

Kouralia wrote:
Gallia- wrote:Gallan paratroopers are basically CAR.

Sorry, CAR?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Airborne_Regiment

Gallan paras' primary purpose in HIC would be airborne assault with the intention of destroying or capturing nuclear weapons. A few battalions of Fusiliers have tanks and IFVs to help accomplish this, but most are just extremely highly motivated and disciplined light infantry.

They're the kind of guys who would do a Mikado and make it work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQ1yQrK ... re=related
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Kouralia
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Postby Kouralia » Fri Apr 25, 2014 3:59 pm


Ah, right. Mine is inevitably similar to the Parachute Regiment, though I'm not sure how to go about integrating IFVs like Russian airborne w/out compromising the ability to transport large numbers of troops per plane.
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Postby DnalweN acilbupeR » Fri Apr 25, 2014 4:20 pm

Kouralia wrote:

Ah, right. Mine is inevitably similar to the Parachute Regiment, though I'm not sure how to go about integrating IFVs like Russian airborne w/out compromising the ability to transport large numbers of troops per plane.


Centerline cargo, side seats?
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Postby Spirit of Hope » Fri Apr 25, 2014 4:26 pm

Gallia- wrote:Answer: Use more planes.

More targets to get shot down.

DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:
Kouralia wrote:Ah, right. Mine is inevitably similar to the Parachute Regiment, though I'm not sure how to go about integrating IFVs like Russian airborne w/out compromising the ability to transport large numbers of troops per plane.


Centerline cargo, side seats?


Hard to paradrop soldiers alongside vehicles. Humans and vehicles shouldn't occupy the same airspace.
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Postby Spirit of Hope » Fri Apr 25, 2014 4:28 pm

Gallia- wrote:
Spirit of Hope wrote:More targets to get shot down.


If you do it right, you shouldn't lose any planes.

If your opponent is competent at air defense that severely limits your drop ability.
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Postby Registug » Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:12 pm

I thought paratroopers aren't supposed to drop into heavily defended areas at all, air defense or conventional.
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Postby Zeinbrad » Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:54 pm

Registug wrote:I thought paratroopers aren't supposed to drop into heavily defended areas at all, air defense or conventional.

Unreleased your a Ragon ParaJager, in which you are expected to go into heavily defended areas and win.

If your pilot doesn't crash before you get there, that how much Ragon pilots suck.
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Postby Oaledonia » Fri Apr 25, 2014 7:04 pm

Zeinbrad wrote:
Registug wrote:I thought paratroopers aren't supposed to drop into heavily defended areas at all, air defense or conventional.

Unreleased your a Ragon ParaJager, in which you are expected to go into heavily defended areas and win.

If your pilot doesn't crash before you get there, that how much Ragon pilots suck.

Jesus Christ you're a mad man.
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Postby Zeinbrad » Fri Apr 25, 2014 7:06 pm

Oaledonia wrote:
Zeinbrad wrote:Unreleased your a Ragon ParaJager, in which you are expected to go into heavily defended areas and win.

If your pilot doesn't crash before you get there, that how much Ragon pilots suck.

Jesus Christ you're a mad man.

And the Ragon still use turretless tank destroyers.

Am I more of a mad man now?
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Postby Gallia- » Fri Apr 25, 2014 7:11 pm

No, that's fine. Lots of sensible people have proposed casemate guns in the modern era.

Not many sensible people propose parachuting commandos directly onto enemy troops. That's the sort of thing you'd see CAR doing.

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Postby Zeinbrad » Fri Apr 25, 2014 7:18 pm

Gallia- wrote:No, that's fine. Lots of sensible people have proposed casemate guns in the modern era.

Not many sensible people propose parachuting commandos directly onto enemy troops. That's the sort of thing you'd see CAR doing.

The Ragon are in sci-fi tech through.

The Gaiaverse warfare is basically two different kinds, during Rebellions and dealing with rebels, it is more modern, mobile and greater focus on lighter vehicles.

When two nations square off, it becomes like Korea,WW2 and one, trench warfare, large tank battles, aerial dogfights, grueling urban warfare and even beach landings if I'm in the mood.
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Postby Zeinbrad » Fri Apr 25, 2014 8:02 pm

Starting working on the Fusiliers armored warfare doctrines and tactics. They are based on the British military.

M6A2 "Git"
Type-Light tank.
Crew-Three.
Armament-105mm Gauss Gun, two machine guns.
Your main recon and fire support vehicle, the M6A2 is a fast and nimble tank meant for infantry support and recon,NOT fighting other tanks. The M6A2's has little armor and will be destroyed in a matter of seconds unless the commander uses his terrain wisely. The M6A2 is meant to stick behind infantry sections and provide fire support to sections in need of help. The sections are to take out any AT positions before calling of support.

Thoughts so far?
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Postby The Kievan People » Fri Apr 25, 2014 8:10 pm

Zeinbrad wrote:Starting working on the Fusiliers armored warfare doctrines and tactics. They are based on the British military.

M6A2 "Git"
Type-Light tank.
Crew-Three.
Armament-105mm Gauss Gun, two machine guns.
Your main recon and fire support vehicle, the M6A2 is a fast and nimble tank meant for infantry support and recon,NOT fighting other tanks. The M6A2's has little armor and will be destroyed in a matter of seconds unless the commander uses his terrain wisely. The M6A2 is meant to stick behind infantry sections and provide fire support to sections in need of help. The sections are to take out any AT positions before calling of support.

Thoughts so far?


Wut. Infantry tanks are generally well armored and slow.
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Postby Zeinbrad » Fri Apr 25, 2014 8:15 pm

The Kievan People wrote:
Zeinbrad wrote:Starting working on the Fusiliers armored warfare doctrines and tactics. They are based on the British military.

M6A2 "Git"
Type-Light tank.
Crew-Three.
Armament-105mm Gauss Gun, two machine guns.
Your main recon and fire support vehicle, the M6A2 is a fast and nimble tank meant for infantry support and recon,NOT fighting other tanks. The M6A2's has little armor and will be destroyed in a matter of seconds unless the commander uses his terrain wisely. The M6A2 is meant to stick behind infantry sections and provide fire support to sections in need of help. The sections are to take out any AT positions before calling of support.

Thoughts so far?


Wut. Infantry tanks are generally well armored and slow.

The fusiliers figured that a fast support tank, that can scout enemy positions while support infantry. Would be more effective.

I try to have some originally with the units.
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Postby The Kievan People » Fri Apr 25, 2014 8:19 pm

Zeinbrad wrote:The fusiliers figured that a fast support tank, that can scout enemy positions while support infantry. Would be more effective.


Zeinbrad wrote:The M6A2 is meant to stick behind infantry sections and provide fire support to sections in need of help. The sections are to take out any AT positions before calling of support.


First, you need to make up your mind. In literally two posts it has gone from being described as an infantry tank to what is essentially a classic cavalry tank.
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Postby Zeinbrad » Fri Apr 25, 2014 8:24 pm

The Kievan People wrote:
Zeinbrad wrote:The fusiliers figured that a fast support tank, that can scout enemy positions while support infantry. Would be more effective.


Zeinbrad wrote:The M6A2 is meant to stick behind infantry sections and provide fire support to sections in need of help. The sections are to take out any AT positions before calling of support.


First, you need to make up your mind. In literally two posts it has gone from being described as an infantry tank to what is essentially a classic cavalry tank.

I said recon to......

I figured since it's has weak armor, it would be wiser to stay behind infantry sections before unleashing hell on enemy positions.

The Twat, the main tank of the Fusiliers, is more of the classic infantry tank, and the Prick is an actual infantry tank in function(Slow but well-armored and armed).
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Postby The Kievan People » Fri Apr 25, 2014 8:33 pm

Zeinbrad wrote:The Twat, the main tank of the Fusiliers, is more of the classic infantry tank, and the Prick is an actual infantry tank in function(Slow but well-armored and armed).


Then why do you need this to be an infantry tank to?
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