NS Military Realism Consultation Thread #5

[Registug]

What is shit? I have it modeled after the US military, so you are basically calling the US military shit.

On NS? Yeah the us Army would be decimated before they could get one battalion on the ground.

"Decimated" means 10% destroyed, Biop

So that's probably true

[Yes Im Biop]

On NS? Yeah the us Army would be decimated before they could get one battalion on the ground.

"Decimated" means 10% destroyed, Biop

So that's probably true

I may not be as right as i meant to be but i'm not wrong

[Riysa]

"Decimated" means 10% destroyed, Biop

So that's probably true

I may not be as right as i meant to be but i'm not wrong

Hell, the US military would pale in comparison to most nations on NS.

[The Corparation]

On NS? Yeah the us Army would be decimated before they could get one battalion on the ground.

"Decimated" means 10% destroyed, Biop

So that's probably true

I hate when people overlook that and use decimate as a synonym for destroy. Decimation is so much more interesting than destruction. Decimation actually refers to a military punishment once applied to entire military units. Basically wen a Unit did something wrong, and the high command really didn't like it. 1 put of every ten soldiers in the unit was executed as punishment. There's a bit more too it than that, but that's the gist of it.

[The Akasha Colony]

I may not be as right as i meant to be but i'm not wrong

Hell, the US military would pale in comparison to most nations on NS.

Maybe in numbers and wank, but it has the advantage of being an actual, functioning military force, while most paper militaries on NS would have a hard time simply existing in a functional state IRL.

[Primordial Luxa]

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[Lubyak]

It is still shit, delete it all and go back to runescape.

What is shit? I have it modeled after the US military, so you are basically calling the US military shit.

It's not modelled on the US military. If it was, you'd probably have something more along the lines of Brigade COmbat Teams rather than what you currently have. You are based on the US military in that you use alot of the same equipment as the US military. Nothing else. Someone with the best equipment but poor logistics and C4I can still be shit. Superior equipment can only carry you so far. To be an effective military you have to use your fancy equipment effectively.

[Zomania]

What is shit? I have it modeled after the US military, so you are basically calling the US military shit.

It's not modelled on the US military. If it was, you'd probably have something more along the lines of Brigade COmbat Teams rather than what you currently have. You are based on the US military in that you use alot of the same equipment as the US military. Nothing else. Someone with the best equipment but poor logistics and C4I can still be shit. Superior equipment can only carry you so far. To be an effective military you have to use your fancy equipment effectively.

There's still the fact that Jesus Christ he has 40 super carriers. He has more aircraft carriers than all the combined navies of earth.

This is complete insanity.

[The Akasha Colony]

It's not modelled on the US military. If it was, you'd probably have something more along the lines of Brigade COmbat Teams rather than what you currently have. You are based on the US military in that you use alot of the same equipment as the US military. Nothing else. Someone with the best equipment but poor logistics and C4I can still be shit. Superior equipment can only carry you so far. To be an effective military you have to use your fancy equipment effectively.

There's still the fact that Jesus Christ he has 40 super carriers. He has more aircraft carriers than all the combined navies of earth.

This is complete insanity.

In and of itself, that's actually not all that bad by NS standards.

[The Nuclear Fist]

For someone trying to get a handle on Soviet military strategy and tactics, what books would you recommend?

What about for Chinese military strategy and tactics?

[Krazakistan]

For someone trying to get a handle on Soviet military strategy and tactics, what books would you recommend?

What about for Chinese military strategy and tactics?

I can't say I know anything knowledgeable about modern Chinese, but I do have a moderate understanding of Soviet doctrine.

In fact, I'm in the process of reading this PDF of Soviet doctrine.

[Lubyak]

For someone trying to get a handle on Soviet military strategy and tactics, what books would you recommend?

What about for Chinese military strategy and tactics?

For Soviet ones, I'd recommend FM 100-2-1, , 2-2 and 2-3. Those should probably get you a nice over view of Soviet army strategy and plans.

[The Nuclear Fist]

For someone trying to get a handle on Soviet military strategy and tactics, what books would you recommend?

What about for Chinese military strategy and tactics?

I can't say I know anything knowledgeable about modern Chinese, but I do have a moderate understanding of Soviet doctrine.

In fact, I'm in the process of reading this PDF of Soviet doctrine.

I'll have to see how many pages that is and how long it would take to print out, I really hate reading long works on the internet.

[Krazakistan]

I can't say I know anything knowledgeable about modern Chinese, but I do have a moderate understanding of Soviet doctrine.

In fact, I'm in the process of reading this PDF of Soviet doctrine.

I'll have to see how many pages that is and how long it would take to print out, I really hate reading long works on the internet.

It's 263 pages long.

[Velkanika]

For someone trying to get a handle on Soviet military strategy and tactics, what books would you recommend?

What about for Chinese military strategy and tactics?

I suggest finding a cheap copy of The Soviet War Machine (ISBN 0 89009 084 X) on Amazon for cheap, it's a great overview of Soviet doctrine from 1976. It's pretty interesting to see what Western analysts thought of the Soviets during the height of the Cold War, and it isn't another US Army Field Manual like the rest of the posters on here are in love with.

Seriously guys, do you have anything that isn't a Field Manual that deals with this?

[DnalweN acilbupeR]

I was too lazy to do it for all variants, but it is doable. You need the storefront, if you have that already figured out, this is more or less a piece of cake. And yes it can be done so that it both looks good and is functional showing all sales clearly with well organized details.

E: Give it a try, I'm sure you'll figure it out in no time, if you're interested that is..

But really, GDocs is groundbreaking. Before this to be able to do the same thing you'd rip your hair out trying to get Access to work like you wanted it to ( for me at least ), and that's not even going into the "cloud" bit.

E2: Unless I completely missed an online (and free) service capable of doing that.

I'm so using this the next time I make something that's worthwhile selling.

I should have kept this to myself and "sold" it to people as a service since I'm shit at my own storefronts

[DnalweN acilbupeR]

So... again, for really small helis like a modernized Bell 47 and smaller should I go with turbine or piston engine?

[Lubyak]

For someone trying to get a handle on Soviet military strategy and tactics, what books would you recommend?

What about for Chinese military strategy and tactics?

I suggest finding a cheap copy of The Soviet War Machine (ISBN 0 89009 084 X) on Amazon for cheap, it's a great overview of Soviet doctrine from 1976. It's pretty interesting to see what Western analysts thought of the Soviets during the height of the Cold War, and it isn't another US Army Field Manual like the rest of the posters on here are in love with.

Seriously guys, do you have anything that isn't a Field Manual that deals with this?

They're useful enough. Of course, if we could get actual translated version of Soviet documents, that'd be great, (and perhaps someone with those is floating around). The US Field Manuals still have a lot of useful information on the subject, especially for someone who is beginning to get into Soviet doctrine. They're easily accessible and quite readable, so when someone asks for an introduction to Soviet doctrine, they're a nice thing to link to. I don't see why you're so hostile to the use of the field manuals.

[New Vihenia]

So... again, for really small helis like a modernized Bell 47 and smaller should I go with turbine or piston engine?

Hmm this may depend on where you will operate this helis. For austere condition (remote place) perhaps where turbine specialist is not available piston engine would be better..As what Russian did with Ka-26/

If such situation is unlikely..perhaps turbine can be preferred, perhaps it can be smaller than comparable piston engine, allow more fuel or payload to be carried.

[DnalweN acilbupeR]

So... again, for really small helis like a modernized Bell 47 and smaller should I go with turbine or piston engine?

Hmm this may depend on where you will operate this helis. For austere condition (remote place) perhaps where turbine specialist is not available piston engine would be better..As what Russian did with Ka-26/

If such situation is unlikely..perhaps turbine can be preferred, perhaps it can be smaller than comparable piston engine, allow more fuel or payload to be carried.

Yeah, I think I'll use turbines.

So for AFVs why are turbines preferred only for the heaviest of vehicles?

[Imperializt Russia]

Why get rid of the weapon? The vehicle will be able to carry better/heavier weapons than the infantry and more ammo to boot. There would be little point to removing it.

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I meant that since the 100mm gun would provide significant anti-tank capability through GLATGM, perhaps the infantry could do away with their own MANPATs or leave them in the vehicles unless the situation calls for it (built-up areas, maybe).

Infantry sections riding in IFVs will not have AT weapons comparable to the BMP's armament. The RPG-7 is primarily a general-purpose grenadier weapon in use, with a close-in AT defence purpose.
The formation will still require anti-tank platoons at the Battalion section, with long-range ATGM.

An MH-6 has a "useful load" of less than 700kg. Its two pilots plus a large quad and trailer will preclude any fuel weight.

extensive use of aluminum will reduce the weight of a quad bike

Most quads probably won't weigh a half ton. But that is what is legally considered a cargo-carrying quad.

It's a significant issue to hold.

It is still shit, delete it all and go back to runescape.

What is shit? I have it modeled after the US military, so you are basically calling the US military shit.

No you haven't.

"Decimated" means 10% destroyed, Biop

So that's probably true

I hate when people overlook that and use decimate as a synonym for destroy. Decimation is so much more interesting than destruction. Decimation actually refers to a military punishment once applied to entire military units. Basically wen a Unit did something wrong, and the high command really didn't like it. 1 put of every ten soldiers in the unit was executed as punishment. There's a bit more too it than that, but that's the gist of it.

I thought it was a punishment to PoWs?

I can't say I know anything knowledgeable about modern Chinese, but I do have a moderate understanding of Soviet doctrine.

In fact, I'm in the process of reading this PDF of Soviet doctrine.

I'll have to see how many pages that is and how long it would take to print out, I really hate reading long works on the internet.

You're talking some thousand pages there for that and the other FM-100-2 tomes

For someone trying to get a handle on Soviet military strategy and tactics, what books would you recommend?

What about for Chinese military strategy and tactics?

I suggest finding a cheap copy of The Soviet War Machine (ISBN 0 89009 084 X) on Amazon for cheap, it's a great overview of Soviet doctrine from 1976. It's pretty interesting to see what Western analysts thought of the Soviets during the height of the Cold War, and it isn't another US Army Field Manual like the rest of the posters on here are in love with.

Seriously guys, do you have anything that isn't a Field Manual that deals with this?

The field manuals are easily available online, are free and are public domain.
What's not to love?

[New Vihenia]

So for AFVs why are turbines preferred only for the heaviest of vehicles?

The main reason is of course it can be smaller thus lighter than diesel analogue...while producing essentially same or superior power output. Well that's what i know.

[Questers]

It is still shit, delete it all and go back to runescape.

What is shit? I have it modeled after the US military, so you are basically calling the US military shit.

Wrong, exit thread please.

[Anacasppia]

So for AFVs why are turbines preferred only for the heaviest of vehicles?

The main reason is of course it can be smaller thus lighter than diesel analogue...while producing essentially same or superior power output. Well that's what i know.

Assuming modern turbines, they're also quieter, cooler, and less smoky. They're also more resistant to extreme temperatures and require less maintenance.

There's a big downside though, which is high fuel consumption, around twice that of equivalent diesel engines.

[Anemos Major]

CREDIT GOES TO ANEMOS MAJOR

Here's an example of what can be done.. (remember to choose IFV) a little form to buy Anemos' MA9A2

Which shows up nicely like so

What is this?