NS Military Realism Consultation Thread #5

[Velkanika]

I misspoke on the bit about steam turbines, I meant boilers. You're absolutely right about that.

Boilers would be no different. They're good for the duration side of sprinting, but boilers and nuclear reactors (anything that deals with steam) tend to be slow to get there.
Nuclear reactors are just the most complex, ridiculous way to boil water we've ever come up with.

As far as I know, there's no good way to convert radioactive decay into electrical power without using its thermal properties to make some kind of fluid or gas spin a turbine. You wouldn't happen to have heard of anything new regarding making nuclear less energy wasteful, would you?

[Pharthan]

Boilers would be no different. They're good for the duration side of sprinting, but boilers and nuclear reactors (anything that deals with steam) tend to be slow to get there.
Nuclear reactors are just the most complex, ridiculous way to boil water we've ever come up with.

As far as I know, there's no good way to convert radioactive decay into electrical power without using its thermal properties to make some kind of fluid or gas spin a turbine. You wouldn't happen to have heard of anything new regarding making nuclear less energy wasteful, would you?

It's pretty effective as is.
There are methods to harness beta-decays of reactors, but they're generally only possible for small applications, they're difficult, and you waste all of the fission-related energy, or you operate it subcritically; essentially not a good idea.

[The Kievan People]

>2014
>NS
>Not using brayton cycle powerplant

[Velkanika]

As far as I know, there's no good way to convert radioactive decay into electrical power without using its thermal properties to make some kind of fluid or gas spin a turbine. You wouldn't happen to have heard of anything new regarding making nuclear less energy wasteful, would you?

It's pretty effective as is.
There are methods to harness beta-decays of reactors, but they're generally only possible for small applications, they're difficult, and you waste all of the fission-related energy, or you operate it subcritically; essentially not a good idea.

RTGs could be useful if you used one to power a single neighborhood at a time. You could bury it under 30 feet of concrete and never have to worry about it melting down or being stolen.

[Triplebaconation]

You could probably use a particularly powerful RTG to run an Xbox or a TV. Probably not both at the same time though.

[Velkanika]

You could probably use a particularly powerful RTG to run an Xbox or a TV. Probably not both at the same time though.

Better use one of the derivatives with better energy output so you can turn on the AC while you're at it.

Edit: It has occurred to me that this is starting to look a lot like Fallout.

[Questers]

some parts were FDscale.

[Imperializt Russia]

Boilers would be no different. They're good for the duration side of sprinting, but boilers and nuclear reactors (anything that deals with steam) tend to be slow to get there.
Nuclear reactors are just the most complex, ridiculous way to boil water we've ever come up with.

As far as I know, there's no good way to convert radioactive decay into electrical power without using its thermal properties to make some kind of fluid or gas spin a turbine. You wouldn't happen to have heard of anything new regarding making nuclear less energy wasteful, would you?

I don't think nuclear batteries heat fluid or gas.

[Rich and Corporations]

As far as I know, there's no good way to convert radioactive decay into electrical power without using its thermal properties to make some kind of fluid or gas spin a turbine. You wouldn't happen to have heard of anything new regarding making nuclear less energy wasteful, would you?

I don't think nuclear batteries heat fluid or gas.

that's probably because we never used nuclear batteries large enough for it to be worthwhile

look i made missiles

needs a mach 4 ramjet anti-access missile


for longswords

[Imperializt Russia]

I don't think nuclear batteries heat fluid or gas.

that's probably because we never used nuclear batteries large enough for it to be worthwhile

Define worthwhile. They have specialist applications where other power sources aren't useful. Hence their wide use in the space programme.

[Rich and Corporations]

that's probably because we never used nuclear batteries large enough for it to be worthwhile

Define worthwhile. They have specialist applications where other power sources aren't useful. Hence their wide use in the space programme.

certainly more power then the space shuttle or the ISS uses

[Imperializt Russia]

Define worthwhile. They have specialist applications where other power sources aren't useful. Hence their wide use in the space programme.

certainly more power then the space shuttle or the ISS uses

The shuttle and ISS, as orbiting bodies, are able to utilise large solar arrays. They're not so useful for long-range satellites, exploratory drones or deep-sea systems.

[Rich and Corporations]

certainly more power then the space shuttle or the ISS uses

The shuttle and ISS, as orbiting bodies, are able to utilise large solar arrays. They're not so useful for long-range satellites, exploratory drones or deep-sea systems.

ah yes

those systems

those systems which use much less electricity then the space shuttle or the ISS

[Questers]

1 helicopta squadron:
1 command helicopta
3 * troops of 3 helicoptas

1 helicopta battalion:
2 command helicoptas
3 * 3 helicopta squadrons
1 helicopter recce troop

35 helicoptas per battalion

NOW

helicopta brigade
1 troop of liason helicopters = 3 helicoptas
3 battalions of helicoptas = 105 helicoptas
1 squadron of recce coptas = 10 recce coptas
1 squadron of CSAR/cargo helicoptas = 10 transport coptas
1 troop of large cargo coptas = 2 coptas

total coptas in a copta brigade
130/ coptas
19 recce coptas (apachehokum)
3 liasion coptas (little bird)
10 transport coptas (puma)
2 supercargo coptas (dont know yet mb chinook)
96 attack coptas (hind)

questers strong

[Gallia-]

(Image)

some parts were FDscale.

fatcopta

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/653 ... eapons.png

meet swaggaplane

[Questers]

fatcopta would shoot down swaggaplane tho

+130

how many cards do you get of swaggaplane???

[Gallia-]

fatcopta would shoot down swaggaplane tho

+130

how many cards do you get of swaggaplane???

3/4 for sneb/bl755/quad aden

2/4 agile/skyflash supertemp/bl755

all elite because mastering asymmetric wing means experience or death

[New Vihenia]

>2014
>NS
>Not using brayton cycle powerplant

I sometime think.. Whether it's possible to replace diesel generator for my sub with gas turbine. It can be way more compact than diesel generator.. Thus more space for Electrochemical Generator. Weight can also be freed for more Metal Hydrate tank to store hydrogen.

Some Russian sub i know have auxilliary gas turbine engine but this is a small scale. for auxilliary power only.

[Oaledonia]

(Image)

some parts were FDscale.

fatcopta

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/653 ... eapons.png

meet swaggaplane

Funny name for the second swaggaplane.

[Imperializt Russia]

The shuttle and ISS, as orbiting bodies, are able to utilise large solar arrays. They're not so useful for long-range satellites, exploratory drones or deep-sea systems.

ah yes

those systems

those systems which use much less electricity then the space shuttle or the ISS

You're still not painting a picture of nuclear batteries being "not worthwhile".

[Spirit of Hope]

ah yes

those systems

those systems which use much less electricity then the space shuttle or the ISS

You're still not painting a picture of nuclear batteries being "not worthwhile".

Curiosity (the mars rover) is powered by a nuclear battery, a thermal conversion one if I remember correctly. One of the engineers on it talked to my high school before the launch.

[Imperializt Russia]

Which is where I'm coming from on this.
Other power sources that could have powered Curiosity, other Martian rovers, Voyager et al are probably not suitable for a variety of reasons.

[New Vihenia]

my nuclear battery... enclose a radiation source with array of solar panels and directly extract electricity from it

[Imperializt Russia]

my nuclear battery... enclose a radiation source with array of solar panels and directly extract electricity from it

That's broadly what one atomic battery mechanism is. The same p-n gap technology as used in solar panels, just that decay radiation instead of solar radiation is knocking electrons about.

[Novorden]

My Mars rovers are powered by wind power, for some reason they keep loosing power.......