NS Military Realism Consultation Thread #5

[Gallia-]

America is so bad it was the only NATO country to be planning serious operational counterstrokes against a Warsaw Pact invasion.

Everyone else sat on their hands and didn't bother because they were too poor, insignificant, or both.

[The Kievan People]

I think that sounds more in the realms of "wank" tbh...

Let the wanking begin?

Roller delayed blowback 16 cm? Open bolt (it has a bolt?)????

It's kind of cute that with all the big words he is using, he designed the cannon like a machine gun.

[Riysa]

Let the wanking begin?

Roller delayed blowback 16 cm? Open bolt (it has a bolt?)????

It's kind of cute that with all the big words he is using, he designed the cannon like a machine gun.

It seems like some sort of machine-cannon? Apparently it fires 160 x 900 mm.

Also dat steel armor and the aircraft he has with hard-kill APS systems

[Aqizithiuda]

Roller delayed blowback 16 cm? Open bolt (it has a bolt?)????

It's kind of cute that with all the big words he is using, he designed the cannon like a machine gun.

It seems like some sort of machine-cannon? Apparently it fires 160 x 900 mm.

Also dat steel armor and the aircraft he has with hard-kill APS systems

It's a weird gas operated/API hybrid revolving gun. Also known as a mechanically complex monstrosity that adds ridiculous amounts of weight and mechanical problems.

[Oaledonia]

America is so bad it was the only NATO country to be planning serious operational counterstrokes against a Warsaw Pact invasion.

Everyone else sat on their hands and didn't bother because they were too poor, insignificant, or both.

That thread is filled with edgy Russian-worshiping teens that have no idea what they're talking about.
One of them thinks that the T-80U "outclasses every tank in the world"

[Gallia-]

America is so bad it was the only NATO country to be planning serious operational counterstrokes against a Warsaw Pact invasion.

Everyone else sat on their hands and didn't bother because they were too poor, insignificant, or both.

That thread is filled with edgy Russian-worshiping teens that have no idea what they're talking about.
One of them thinks that the T-80U "outclasses every tank in the world"

It does.










































































In catastrophic kill count. (8888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888

[Oaledonia]

-snip-

I know, but he's got an excuse for everything I say.

[The Nuclear Fist]

What is so good about the Comanche helicopter?

[Oaledonia]

What is so good about the Comanche helicopter?

It's a Comanche, nuff said.

[Gallia-]

What is so good about the Comanche helicopter?

It kills all the Mi-24s.

-snip-

I know, but he's got an excuse for everything I say.

Who is "he"?

Perhaps you speak of the one known in some circles as "Matinsky", a known worshiper at the shrines of T-64B and Challenger 2.

[The Kievan People]

It seems like some sort of machine-cannon? Apparently it fires 160 x 900 mm.

Also dat steel armor and the aircraft he has with hard-kill APS systems

Even automatic large caliber cannon would not be built like that. The "bolt" would have be absolutely enormous, it needs to absorb the recoil of a tank shell! Blowback also allows significant amounts of gas to escape from the breech. In a MG this is mostly an annoyance. In a cannon fired inside a closed space this would be horrendous. And the "open bolt" is hardly compatible with NBC pressurization. It would prevent proper obturation.

[Questers]

It also has like 100mm of armour or something...

[Gallia-]

It also has like 100mm of armour or something...

Nano-crystal steel.

Folded over 9 billion times.

Nippon steel shatter all limp gaijin "penetrators".

[Riysa]

I was going to give him the benefit of the doubt and call it PMT...its really just statswank, isn't it?

[Questers]

both. but mostly the latter

[Aqizithiuda]

It also has like 100mm of armour or something...

Nano-crystal steel.

Folded over 9 billion times.

Nippon steel shatter all limp gaijin "penetrators".

At least it wasn't monocrystalline.

[Riysa]

It also has like 100mm of armour or something...

Nano-crystal steel.

Folded over 9 billion times.

Nippon steel shatter all limp gaijin "penetrators".

It rivals the strength of a thousand milimeters of Chobham armor

Seriously, if Japan can find a way to weaponize weeaboo, it could simply roll over the world and no one would be able to resist. At all.

both. but mostly the latter

Ach, that's what I was thinking. Looks like someone's getting a rejection.

[Gallia-]

America would beat it like it did last time.

[Oaledonia]

Nano-crystal steel.

Folded over 9 billion times.

Nippon steel shatter all limp gaijin "penetrators".

It rivals the strength of a thousand milimeters of Chobham armor

Seriously, if Japan can find a way to weaponize weeaboo, it could simply roll over the world and no one would be able to resist. At all.

both. but mostly the latter

Ach, that's what I was thinking. Looks like someone's getting a rejection.

>Likes Japan
>Automatic Weeaboo

[Rich and Corporations]

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/us- ... ne-020943/
US military to factor civilizational dimension in warfare, as conceptualized by Rich and Corporations.

[Krazakistan]

What's a good general purpose search radar for use with SA-15s, SA-11s, and SA-21s. Would the Tin Shield fit this role reasonably well?

Repost.

[Transnapastain]

What's a good general purpose search radar for use with SA-15s, SA-11s, and SA-21s. Would the Tin Shield fit this role reasonably well?

Repost.

I....think that system uses TOMB STONE, but I can't recall, either way, i should work. E: I was wrong, it doesn't. SA-20 it appears.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... bstone.htm
http://www.armyrecognition.com/russia_r ... ns_uk.html

E:
http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-Acquisition-GCI.html

That may be useful to you, but I've been told that that particular website may not be the most unbiased source.

[New Vihenia]

What's a good general purpose search radar for use with SA-15s, SA-11s, and SA-21s. Would the Tin Shield fit this role reasonably well?

Those SAM's already have search radar on their own.

the SA-15 (TOR) Have search radar in practically each launcher vehicle. All needed is basially a command center to manage its target.

Same goes for the SA-11 (Buk) It's already have its own search radar the 9S18 "Snow drift"

While SA-21 have plenty of search radar options.. like 91N6, 64N6E (Both are "Big bird" family) Nebo family, RLM Family and 9L6N "cheeseboard"
and that 36D6 "Tin shield" (Though this one is not only used for SAM search radar but also general purpose air defense radar)

The one you may need is some command center like Poliana or Ranzhir to integrate inputs from those radars and distribute targets evenly for the SAM's.

[Yokohama Prefecture]

Would equipping my soldiers with a type of rifle that was a prototype in WW2 be realistic in modern combat? I know nations today still use older bolt action rifles in combat in the real world, so I was wondering if I could use a rifle from 1944/45 as a weapon in combat now.

[Krazakistan]

Repost.

I....think that system uses TOMB STONE, but I can't recall, either way, i should work. E: I was wrong, it doesn't. SA-20 it appears.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... bstone.htm
http://www.armyrecognition.com/russia_r ... ns_uk.html

E:
http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-Acquisition-GCI.html

That may be useful to you, but I've been told that that particular website may not be the most unbiased source.

The SA-21 uses the GRAVE STONE, which is just an upgraded version of the TOMB STONE. Can't recall what the Russians improved with it, though.

But as for now I'm going with the TIN SHIELD, either in it's towed or mast mounted version.