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Questers
41
34%
Gallia-/Kampala-
12
10%
Velkanika
8
7%
The Kievan People/Kyiv
29
24%
The Akasha Colony
5
4%
Spirit of Hope
4
3%
Lamoni
5
4%
Lyras
10
8%
Lubyak
5
4%
 
Total votes : 119


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Inyourfaceistan
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Postby Inyourfaceistan » Sun Feb 23, 2014 5:59 pm

Vorkova wrote:
Gallia- wrote:
Here is why posting like that is bad:


What the fuck did I just read?


Why stupid NATO fanboy missile fail to Stronk T-80UM1...


It's not French,it's not Spanish,it's Inyurstan
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Postby Oaledonia » Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:00 pm

Vorkova wrote:
Gallia- wrote:
Here is why posting like that is bad:


What the fuck did I just read?

Holy fuck, my sides. I think I'm bleeding.
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Postby Gallia- » Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:00 pm

Vorkova wrote:
Gallia- wrote:
Here is why posting like that is bad:


What the fuck did I just read?


AFNORTH's last hope.

Oaledonia wrote:
Vorkova wrote:What the fuck did I just read?

Holy fuck, my sides. I think I'm bleeding.


COMRADE, FETCH BANDAGES OF DISCARDED FOOTWRAPS!

Inyourfaceistan wrote:
Vorkova wrote:What the fuck did I just read?


Why stupid NATO fanboy missile fail to Stronk T-80UM1...


NATO: T-80U OP nerf pact plx

Earth: Okay.

*1991*
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Mitheldalond
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Postby Mitheldalond » Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:11 pm

Vorkova wrote:
Gallia- wrote:
Here is why posting like that is bad:


What the fuck did I just read?

It seems to be a battle between someone selling US military hardware, and an insane Soviet Russian wannabe fanboy.

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The United Remnants of America
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Postby The United Remnants of America » Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:40 pm

In times of war and in cases of conscription and draft, is 5% of total population a good basis? I know too high a percentage can cause economic instability and such.

I'm basing the 5% based no the fact that IRL, North Korea sits at 4.9%

I mean the 5% only in times of emergency or draft. Not as a constant active military.
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Postby Questers » Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:45 pm

Galla you are big idiot. How to kick other crew member in T-80 series? Undetail post trash.
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Oaledonia
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Postby Oaledonia » Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:46 pm

Questers wrote:Galla you are big idiot.

No you are. Flaming is bad >:C
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Postby Questers » Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:49 pm

Inyourfaceistan wrote: Y

2) How else would you supposedly RP an engagement between ten fighter aircraft and SAMs vs ten fighter aircraft and a whole mess of cargo planes?
You agree beforehand on what is generally happening in the air and write descriptions of it. For a singular engagement you pre-agree on what would happen then act it out.

Of course only IMO but otherwise its impossible. If you RPed the Battle of Britain you wouldn't rp 500 individual battles. You would describe broadly the defences and tactics and then have fun by writing about the mood and atmosphere of the people and some ~PLANE ACTION~ without having to worry about someone replying I FIR MISSILES AT U (OCC : POST LOSS)
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Icatus
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Postby Icatus » Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:52 pm

Mitheldalond wrote:
Vorkova wrote:What the fuck did I just read?

It seems to be a battle between someone selling US military hardware, and an insane Soviet Russian wannabe fanboy.


Wat.

Well what the legitimate f--k. HOW OLD IS THAT KID? 2??
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Voltrovia
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Postby Voltrovia » Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:57 pm

The United Remnants of America wrote:In times of war and in cases of conscription and draft, is 5% of total population a good basis? I know too high a percentage can cause economic instability and such.

I'm basing the 5% based no the fact that IRL, North Korea sits at 4.9%

I mean the 5% only in times of emergency or draft. Not as a constant active military.


Never base anything on NK, ever. Just so you know, this is the country where 1 in 3 are in some way associated with the Armed Forces (Peasant Guard and such)

North Korea has spent half a century building her military forces to that level (I'm referring to the 5%), and has succeeded in so completely bankrupting the country that it is likely to make the cost of German unification look like a tea party if and when the day of peaceful (or violent) reunification comes.

If you want a war of survival (let us say WW2, for example, conscription setup), then you could have, at the very most most, 3%, even by NS standards.

You seem to want a militarised nation so (working with tact along the inflated NS guidelines):
I recommend a peacetime level of 1% (national service might be a good idea) by NS levels (the Russian are about 1/160, by comparison)
Wartime (not COIN, but a major geopolitical engagement between states) with normal draft of 2%
If you have Nazis at the front door, 3%

Just my view.

5% active forces (with conscription activated) will get you laughed out of an RP (of reasonable quality...), to put it lightly.
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Postby Gallia- » Sun Feb 23, 2014 7:08 pm

Questers wrote:Galla you are big idiot. How to kick other crew member in T-80 series? Undetail post trash.


Kalugin's boot is of much stronk steel toe, punches through fighting compartment to hit Kazakh head.

Oaledonia wrote:
Questers wrote:Galla you are big idiot.

No you are. Flaming is bad >:C


My hero @ _ @
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Postby Krazeria » Sun Feb 23, 2014 7:10 pm

Oaledonia wrote:

Discuss how your nation guards it's skies.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-300_(missile)

not much to crash planes into out there in the Mongolian step
It could always use more missiles!

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Postby Questers » Sun Feb 23, 2014 7:11 pm

oaledonia + galla = 442nd RCT
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Registug
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Postby Registug » Sun Feb 23, 2014 7:48 pm

Questers wrote:I think RPing a single engagement over a series of posts is the worst idea in RP history.

:c
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Questers
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Postby Questers » Sun Feb 23, 2014 8:24 pm

Registug wrote:
Questers wrote:I think RPing a single engagement over a series of posts is the worst idea in RP history.

:c
I think this thread IS about a single engagement though, isn't it?
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Postby Gallia- » Sun Feb 23, 2014 8:27 pm

They're actually in competition with Smoke On The Water for longest II thread yet, starting with the opening battle of the coming war. Expect battles with wind, snow, rain, and heat as mail couriers brave the elements to deliver letters of lost love and forsaken hopes to service family members around page 67. One particularly emotional moment will be when the commanding general of the Samozian Army receives a damning Dear John letter from his wife of 37 years.

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Postby Dragomere » Sun Feb 23, 2014 8:28 pm

How can I make these more realistic?

1930's Dragomerian Battleship
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With a maximum speed of 130 km/h, it has 14 standard Anti-Aircraft Turrets and 6 Heavy Fire Turrets. This aircraft has a standard crew of 30 crewmen.

1930's Dragomerian Aircraft Carrier
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With a maximum speed of 120 km/h, it has 12 standard Anti-Aircraft Turrets. This aircraft has a standard crew of 40 crewmen. It can hold a maximum of 18 aircraft.

1950's Dragomerian Battleship
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With a maximum speed of 135 km/h, it has 24 standard Anti-Aircraft Turrets and 7 Heavy Fire Turrets. This aircraft has a standard crew of 35 crewmen.

1950's Dragomerian Aircraft Carrier
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With a maximum speed of 125 km/h, it has 12 standard Anti-Aircraft Turrets. This aircraft has a standard crew of 50 crewmen. It can hold a maximum of 24 aircraft.
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Sun Feb 23, 2014 8:33 pm

Dragomere wrote:How can I make these more realistic?

Given the years you mention this existing in, there is nothing realistic about these.

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Postby Dragomere » Sun Feb 23, 2014 8:34 pm

The Republic of Lanos wrote:
Dragomere wrote:How can I make these more realistic?

Given the years you mention this existing in, there is nothing realistic about these.

How do you figure, as they are airships, not spaceships.
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Sun Feb 23, 2014 8:38 pm

Dragomere wrote:
The Republic of Lanos wrote:Given the years you mention this existing in, there is nothing realistic about these.

How do you figure, as they are airships, not spaceships.

I don't think those airships are remotely possible beyond the realm of science fiction. The weight of the weaponry and ammo and the whole plane-carrying capacity doesn't seem possible except on lolheug ships that are more of a target to kill than a regular carrier.

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Postby Dragomere » Sun Feb 23, 2014 8:42 pm

The Republic of Lanos wrote:
Dragomere wrote:How do you figure, as they are airships, not spaceships.

I don't think those airships are remotely possible beyond the realm of science fiction. The weight of the weaponry and ammo and the whole plane-carrying capacity doesn't seem possible except on lolheug ships that are more of a target to kill than a regular carrier.

Actually, as long as the lift is greater than the weight, they will be fine.
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Sun Feb 23, 2014 8:45 pm

Dragomere wrote:
The Republic of Lanos wrote:I don't think those airships are remotely possible beyond the realm of science fiction. The weight of the weaponry and ammo and the whole plane-carrying capacity doesn't seem possible except on lolheug ships that are more of a target to kill than a regular carrier.

Actually, as long as the lift is greater than the weight, they will be fine.

If you're shooting for carrier airships like the ones from Turning Point: Fall of Liberty, you've just escaped all pretenses of realism.

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Postby Dragomere » Sun Feb 23, 2014 8:46 pm

The Republic of Lanos wrote:
Dragomere wrote:Actually, as long as the lift is greater than the weight, they will be fine.

If you're shooting for carrier airships like the ones from Turning Point: Fall of Liberty, you've just escaped all pretenses of realism.

No, besides what is Turning Point?
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