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Postby Deceptionia » Wed Nov 24, 2010 2:10 pm

In the little time I have been here, I have seen much of the tanks posted here. I would love to post what type of tank thing I have, but you have a strict no mech rule on this thread (boy, I wish I didn't have to use mechs, but damn it I shall!). Can anyone give me a link to a mecha thread? I can't seem to find one.
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Postby Alternate Russia » Wed Nov 24, 2010 2:16 pm

Deceptionia wrote:In the little time I have been here, I have seen much of the tanks posted here. I would love to post what type of tank thing I have, but you have a strict no mech rule on this thread (boy, I wish I didn't have to use mechs, but damn it I shall!). Can anyone give me a link to a mecha thread? I can't seem to find one.


http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=80426&hilit=Mech+Thread

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Postby Noders » Wed Nov 24, 2010 2:18 pm

Deceptionia wrote:In the little time I have been here, I have seen much of the tanks posted here. I would love to post what type of tank thing I have, but you have a strict no mech rule on this thread (boy, I wish I didn't have to use mechs, but damn it I shall!). Can anyone give me a link to a mecha thread? I can't seem to find one.

wow you are a true newbie (the good kind of course) :clap: :clap: most of the time people post it any ways and then try to justify it your the first to ask for the other thread :clap: :clap:
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Postby Deceptionia » Wed Nov 24, 2010 2:24 pm

Noders wrote:
Deceptionia wrote:In the little time I have been here, I have seen much of the tanks posted here. I would love to post what type of tank thing I have, but you have a strict no mech rule on this thread (boy, I wish I didn't have to use mechs, but damn it I shall!). Can anyone give me a link to a mecha thread? I can't seem to find one.

wow you are a true newbie (the good kind of course) :clap: :clap: most of the time people post it any ways and then try to justify it your the first to ask for the other thread :clap: :clap:


Why people justify mechas in a tank thread is beyond me. Tanks are at the complete advantage, IMO, unless the mecha can bring itself down to its level (which is why my mechs could probably stand a slim chance). Tanks in numbers against a few mechs will most likely win. Just giving you proof I'm not a total mecha n00b ;)
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Postby Deceptionia » Wed Nov 24, 2010 2:24 pm

Alternate Russia wrote:
Deceptionia wrote:In the little time I have been here, I have seen much of the tanks posted here. I would love to post what type of tank thing I have, but you have a strict no mech rule on this thread (boy, I wish I didn't have to use mechs, but damn it I shall!). Can anyone give me a link to a mecha thread? I can't seem to find one.


http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=80426&hilit=Mech+Thread


Thanks!
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Postby Bajireyn » Wed Nov 24, 2010 2:28 pm

Deceptionia wrote:
Noders wrote:wow you are a true newbie (the good kind of course) :clap: :clap: most of the time people post it any ways and then try to justify it your the first to ask for the other thread :clap: :clap:


Why people justify mechas in a tank thread is beyond me. Tanks are at the complete advantage, IMO, unless the mecha can bring itself down to its level (which is why my mechs could probably stand a slim chance). Tanks in numbers against a few mechs will most likely win. Just giving you proof I'm not a total mecha n00b ;)


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Postby The Kievan People » Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:21 pm

Sneaking up on tanks is for sissies and girls.

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Real men run straight up to it and shove a block of C4 down the barrel. 8)
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Postby Kiribait » Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:31 pm

Since most modern tanks have a turret which doesn't extend to the main hull. If you where to be good enough (and to have the turret facing the other direction) and got it between the turret and the hull, wouldn't you strike the like tube (I'm not exactly sure whats it called but Im not a tank expert to begin with) thing that holds the turret, Wouldn't that just break into the main body thus killing the crew and such?

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Postby -the Ukrainian SSR- » Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:33 pm

I don't actually think the 'neck' is as prolific as people think it is. I'm not an expert though; Kievan is even though he spelled Kiyvan wrong. :D
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Goliath HBT

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Type: Heavy Assault Tank/Heavy Battle Tank

Speed: 60 Km/Hr
Weight: 98 Tonnes

Gun forward length: 12 Meters
Hull length: 12 Meters
Width: 8 Meters
Height: 6 Meters
Crew: 4 (commander, gunner, loader, driver)
Armor: Titano-Ferric Armor Plating
Primary armament: 2 150 mm M85 rifled cannons
Secondary: 1 N-233 MAIRFWs/1 Anti-Air (6 pod) Missile Luncher
Engine: Freti-Industries ARI-22280 Multi-Fuel Turbine Engine 2,000 hp (1,471 kW)
Power/weight: 24.5 hp/metric ton
Transmission: Bellit 12140-3X
Suspension: Bellit 34452-2I
Ground clearance: 2.0 Meters
Fuel capacity: 4,500 liters
Operational range: 675 Km


Viper LBT

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Type: Light Assault Tank/Light Battle Tank

Speed: 90 Km/Hr
Weight: 50 Tonnes

Gun forward length: 8 Meters
Hull length: 6 Meters
Width: 4 Meters
Height: 3 Meters
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Ground clearance: 3.5 Meters
Fuel capacity: 3,500 liters
Operational range: 750 Km
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Postby United States of PA » Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:43 pm

Kiribait wrote:Since most modern tanks have a turret which doesn't extend to the main hull. If you where to be good enough (and to have the turret facing the other direction) and got it between the turret and the hull, wouldn't you strike the like tube (I'm not exactly sure whats it called but Im not a tank expert to begin with) thing that holds the turret, Wouldn't that just break into the main body thus killing the crew and such?


Turret Ring.

That said, i doubt it would have any real effect anymore. Maybe shake up some and bend some plates, but i doubt it would do the damage you think it would.

Putting in down the gun barrel will work so much better, because that would require the gun to be replaced, which would require that the tank than be sent back to its production facility.

For example, if a Abrams tank loses its Main gun in Iraq altogether, it has to be sent back to Lima to be regunned.
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Postby Hiijaric Monarchy » Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:45 pm

The Kievan People wrote:Sneaking up on tanks is for sissies and girls.

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Real men run straight up to it and shove a block of C4 down the barrel. 8)


AN/M-14 is manlier. It means you have to climb onto the tank, instead of standing in front of it.
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Postby Khazyan » Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:59 pm

If you can actually get an infantryman on top of a tank with little to no enemy infantry or anti-personnel vehicles around, he could just point a gun at the hatch and do Jerry Lewis impressions until someone with an appropriate weapon showed up.
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Postby Rusikstan » Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:02 pm

The Kievan People wrote:Sneaking up on tanks is for sissies and girls.

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Real men run straight up to it and shove a block of C4 down the barrel. 8)


That is not fair! The tank had a broken track and couldn't run his ass over!

Point being:
Real Men, apparently, kick tigers when they are down instead of when they can actually do something.
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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:10 pm

Rusikstan wrote:
The Kievan People wrote:Sneaking up on tanks is for sissies and girls.

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Real men run straight up to it and shove a block of C4 down the barrel. 8)


That is not fair! The tank had a broken track and couldn't run his ass over!

Point being:
Real Men, apparently, kick tigers when they are down instead of when they can actually do something.

Well no duh, how are you supposed to catch an armoured vehicle traveling at high speeds? Besides the tank commander has an MG, and probably a pistol or something.
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The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
Rusikstan wrote:
That is not fair! The tank had a broken track and couldn't run his ass over!

Point being:
Real Men, apparently, kick tigers when they are down instead of when they can actually do something.

Well no duh, how are you supposed to catch an armoured vehicle traveling at high speeds? Besides the tank commander has an MG, and probably a pistol or something.


I'd like to point out that some anti missile systems can serve as a secondary anti infantry defence.
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Postby Hiijaric Monarchy » Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:32 pm

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
Rusikstan wrote:
That is not fair! The tank had a broken track and couldn't run his ass over!

Point being:
Real Men, apparently, kick tigers when they are down instead of when they can actually do something.

Well no duh, how are you supposed to catch an armoured vehicle traveling at high speeds? Besides the tank commander has an MG, and probably a pistol or something.


Real tank commanders carry carbines, AT-4s, and Magpul PDRs.
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Postby Hiijaric Monarchy » Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:34 pm

New Nicksyllvania wrote:Real tank commanders would probably ditch and book it as soon as they discover they are immobile


Which is why they have AT-4s and carbines. D:<
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Postby United States of PA » Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:36 pm

New Nicksyllvania wrote:Real tank commanders would probably ditch and book it as soon as they discover they are immobile


This.


This is the reason why i consider a Mobility kill as good as actually destroying the tank in the short run.
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Postby Sucrati » Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:41 pm

New Nicksyllvania wrote:Real tank commanders would probably ditch and book it as soon as they discover they are immobile


Of which they are either shot or captured...

If someone was fast enough to get a nade into the tanks interior...
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Postby Rusikstan » Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:47 pm

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
Rusikstan wrote:That is not fair! The tank had a broken track and couldn't run his ass over!

Point being:
Real Men, apparently, kick tigers when they are down instead of when they can actually do something.

Well no duh, how are you supposed to catch an armoured vehicle traveling at high speeds? Besides the tank commander has an MG, and probably a pistol or something.


"or something"

Clearly *nods*

New Nicksyllvania wrote:Real tank commanders would probably ditch and book it as soon as they discover they are immobile


This gives me an idea. Super-light tank with emergency flintstone power ability! y/n?
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United Dependencies wrote:What is the likelihood of a tactical nuke being used in this situation?

Well, the OP was looking for advice for an IC war in II, so I suppose that they would be used almost immediately.
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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:48 pm

Sucrati wrote:
New Nicksyllvania wrote:Real tank commanders would probably ditch and book it as soon as they discover they are immobile


Of which they are either shot or captured...

If someone was fast enough to get a nade into the tanks interior...

That is why your tank commanders are Kenyans bred to be the fastest people alive. Mine aren't, but Satirius' might be.
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Postby GRUVIA » Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:59 pm

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The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:That is why your tank commanders are Kenyans bred to be the fastest people alive. Mine aren't, but Satirius' might be.

No, he would just have his tanks come out and shoot the guy that immobilized his tank with his extremely designed to be space efficient assault rifle.


And if he runs out of Ammo or there are too many for him to handle, what then?

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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:03 pm

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Altamirus wrote:No, he would just have his tanks come out and shoot the guy that immobilized his tank with his extremely designed to be space efficient assault rifle.


And if he runs out of Ammo or there are too many for him to handle, what then?

He runs away to safety dodging bullets along the way since they are Kenyans. Also, Sat's rifle is like 2 feet long, and fires some intermediate cartridge, so they could easily carry a hundred magazines in the tank.
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