Your Nation's Main Battle Tank (No Mechs) [Part 1]

[The Corparation]

True but there are some changes to comply with US laws. US version isn't as good as most forigen models.

Don't need to be good when Silverados are rated the best for hauling, and getting out of deep shit (aka mudd and snow) not to mention Vortec is pretty damn good which is what i love about my 01 silverado.

Yeah, but you can't break a Hilux. You can break a Silverado.

[Wesibaden]

Don't need to be good when Silverados are rated the best for hauling, and getting out of deep shit (aka mudd and snow) not to mention Vortec is pretty damn good which is what i love about my 01 silverado.

Yeah, but you can't break a Hilux. You can break a Silverado.

You can break anything but Chevy is known for being as hard as you want on it and nothing will go wrong my Silverado has over 350k miles and not one problem with it and yes i did drive it through sloughs and ditches filled with snow.

[The Corparation]

Yeah, but you can't break a Hilux. You can break a Silverado.

You can break anything but Chevy is known for being as hard as you want on it and nothing will go wrong my Silverado has over 350k miles and not one problem with it and yes i did drive it through sloughs and ditches filled with snow.

How does it fare after several hours under water? Or after being placed on top of a building which is then imploded?

[Licana]

What is that turret-less failtank?

[Senestrum]

What is that turret-less failtank?

You tell the T28 that to its face.

[United States of PA]

T-28 modernized would make a epic Tank Destroyer.


Must now do it eventually for Export lol.

EDIT: That or the Tortoise.

[Licana]

T-28 modernized would make a epic Tank Destroyer.


Must now do it eventually for Export lol.

Eh, The gun would have to be insanely powerful (on the level of knocking out a Lyran/Sumerian tank from a good distance in a single shot) to really make it useful without a turret in my eyes. I'm willing to bet that to most, it doesn't matter what the tank features, no turret = failtank.

[Wesibaden]

What is that turret-less failtank?

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I showing a picture on what i'm trying to make i am working on it in Gimp and sorta although body wise doesn't look like that.

[United States of PA]

T-28 modernized would make a epic Tank Destroyer.


Must now do it eventually for Export lol.

Eh, The gun would have to be insanely powerful (on the level of knocking out a Lyran/Sumerian tank from a good distance in a single shot) to really make it useful without a turret in my eyes. I'm willing to bet that to most, it doesn't matter what the tank features, no turret = failtank.

Um, you do know that the MCA-7E is not the god tank that is impossible to kill everyone makes it out to be? You just need to be smart in what you hit. You can effectively kill a MCA-7E with a 90mm HVAP. Hit the track or the Engine Compartment. Tactical Kill is as good as a complete kill, since it cant move.

Properly modernized, i dont see why you couldnt fit something akin to a 203mm range weapon on that sucker.

Also, no turret = Maximum thickness armor always pointing at enemy, great for a defensive line, plus, usually a lower height, thus, harder to see.

[Licana]

Eh, The gun would have to be insanely powerful (on the level of knocking out a Lyran/Sumerian tank from a good distance in a single shot) to really make it useful without a turret in my eyes. I'm willing to bet that to most, it doesn't matter what the tank features, no turret = failtank.

Um, you do know that the MCA-7E is not the god tank that is impossible to kill everyone makes it out to be? You just need to be smart in what you hit. You can effectively kill a MCA-7E with a 90mm HVAP. Hit the track or the Engine Compartment. Tactical Kill is as good as a complete kill, since it cant move.

Properly modernized, i dont see why you couldnt fit something akin to a 203mm range weapon on that sucker.

Also, no turret = Maximum thickness armor always pointing at enemy, great for a defensive line, plus, usually a lower height, thus, harder to see.

I'm not completely ignorant, I know the advantages and disadvantages to a turret-less tank, and the MCA-7/LY4s variants are far from invincible.
I was stating that (for me, at least) a turret-less tank would have to be able to do something pretty incredible for it to be worth while, and my statement on the MCA-7/LY4 was just a very simple way to put that.

[United States of PA]

No offense intended, but you sure made yourself out to appear like one.


Turretless tanks have their pro's and cons, just like everything else. What you think of them is subjective.

[L3 Communications]

Yeah, but you can't break a Hilux. You can break a Silverado.

You can break anything but Chevy is known for being as hard as you want on it and nothing will go wrong my Silverado has over 350k miles and not one problem with it and yes i did drive it through sloughs and ditches filled with snow.

Did you drive it through a desert while killing BMPs and T-72s with about thirty guys piled in the back armed with AK-47s and RPGs?

I think not.

[Albrante]

Tacoma is the American name for Hilux, derp

True but there are some changes to comply with US laws. US version isn't as good as most forigen models.

So they change it to comply with local laws and make it worse?

[Albrante]

You can break anything but Chevy is known for being as hard as you want on it and nothing will go wrong my Silverado has over 350k miles and not one problem with it and yes i did drive it through sloughs and ditches filled with snow.

Did you drive it through a desert while killing BMPs and T-72s with about thirty guys piled in the back armed with AK-47s and RPGs?

I think not.

I heard somewhere the Chadians bolted MILANs onto the things as well, that might explain the tank ownedgeness.

What is that turret-less failtank?

You tell the T28 that to its face.

Come on, we dare you to!

[St George of England]

True but there are some changes to comply with US laws. US version isn't as good as most forigen models.

So they change it to comply with local laws and make it worse?

Yep, the Yanks have also used daisy cutters on these things... with no effect...

[Wesibaden]

You can break anything but Chevy is known for being as hard as you want on it and nothing will go wrong my Silverado has over 350k miles and not one problem with it and yes i did drive it through sloughs and ditches filled with snow.

Did you drive it through a desert while killing BMPs and T-72s with about thirty guys piled in the back armed with AK-47s and RPGs?

I think not.

but i did pull a big ass combine with a bunch of Scrap metal not to mention the box being full of Motors and tranny's which weigh more then people btw, and please 30 guys on back is NOTHING.

[Strykla]

Did you drive it through a desert while killing BMPs and T-72s with about thirty guys piled in the back armed with AK-47s and RPGs?

I think not.

but i did pull a big ass combine with a bunch of Scrap metal not to mention the box being full of Motores and tranny's which weigh more then people btw, and please 30 guys on back is NOTHING.

It'd be cool to see how that goes up against a Humvee with a Mk 19!

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

Type: Main Battle Tank
Weight: Idk yet prob. pretty heavy
Length: 9.1m
Height: 3.4m
Width: idk yet

Armor: Composite Cermic w/ spaced armor and applique electric armor
Primary Armament: 140mm ETC Smoothbore Gun/launcher
Secondry: 3x 12.7mm MG (including 1 RWS)
Turret: Unmanned, 22 round rotary autoloader

Engine: 12 cylinder boxer turobdiesel (normally fueled on biodiesel and compatible with ethanol) @1200 HP

writeup to come

Type: Main Battle Tank
Weight: Idk yet prob. pretty heavy
Length: 9.1m
Height: 3.4m
Width: idk yet

Armor: Composite Cermic w/ spaced armor and applique electric armor
Primary Armament: 140mm ETC Smoothbore Gun/launcher
Secondry: 3x 12.7mm MG (including 1 RWS)
Turret: Unmanned, 22 round rotary autoloader

Engine: 12 cylinder boxer turobdiesel (normally fueled on biodiesel and compatible with ethanol) @1200 HP

writeup to come

Some flaws.

1. You aren't going to get 22 140mm shells in a tank with a turret that small.
2. 3 MGs seems so very redundant. When will you ever be lucky enough to have the enemy soldiers stand in front of your tank while a hull mounted machine gun mows them down?
3. I don't think you can do applique electric armour, and while I am don't know much about electrical armour (should probably ask Sumer or someone), I imagine that it would be rather expensive, to the point where you are better off just relying on more traditional armour.
4. Your tank is gonna be slow (most likely), it has a rather small engine by western standards (M1A2, Leo 2, Chally 2E, K2, Ariete, Type 99, and the Type 90 all have more powerful engines) (yes I consider Japan, Korea, and China western countries, since they are about as advanced as them), and is going to be "heavy", which by my standards is generally over 65 tons, and thus your tank will probably be a tad slow.

[Strykla]

Type: Main Battle Tank
Weight: Idk yet prob. pretty heavy
Length: 9.1m
Height: 3.4m
Width: idk yet

Armor: Composite Cermic w/ spaced armor and applique electric armor
Primary Armament: 140mm ETC Smoothbore Gun/launcher
Secondry: 3x 12.7mm MG (including 1 RWS)
Turret: Unmanned, 22 round rotary autoloader

Engine: 12 cylinder boxer turobdiesel (normally fueled on biodiesel and compatible with ethanol) @1200 HP

writeup to come

Type: Main Battle Tank
Weight: Idk yet prob. pretty heavy
Length: 9.1m
Height: 3.4m
Width: idk yet

Armor: Composite Cermic w/ spaced armor and applique electric armor
Primary Armament: 140mm ETC Smoothbore Gun/launcher
Secondry: 3x 12.7mm MG (including 1 RWS)
Turret: Unmanned, 22 round rotary autoloader

Engine: 12 cylinder boxer turobdiesel (normally fueled on biodiesel and compatible with ethanol) @1200 HP

writeup to come

Some flaws.

1. You aren't going to get 22 140mm shells in a tank with a turret that small.
2. 3 MGs seems so very redundant. When will you ever be lucky enough to have the enemy soldiers stand in front of your tank while a hull mounted machine gun mows them down?
3. I don't think you can do applique electric armour, and while I am don't know much about electrical armour (should probably ask Sumer or someone), I imagine that it would be rather expensive, to the point where you are better off just relying on more traditional armour.
4. Your tank is gonna be slow (most likely), it has a rather small engine by western standards (M1A2, Leo 2, Chally 2E, K2, Ariete, Type 99, and the Type 90 all have more powerful engines) (yes I consider Japan, Korea, and China western countries, since they are about as advanced as them), and is going to be "heavy", which by my standards is generally over 65 tons, and thus your tank will probably be a tad slow.

It is also rather large, making a silhouette easy to spot and easier to hit.
Looks damn cool though.

[United States of PA]

Electric Armor is wank in anything except mid to late PMT, unless thats what this is for.

Go V-12 or Opposed Piston Diesel. Half the fuel consumption of a Turbine.


EDIT: If they are riding on the engine compartment or the Turret roof, sure, otherwise, not worth it. For every Lightly armed dismount, Merkava loses like, 15 rounds off of its ammo load.

[Strykla]

Some flaws.

1. You aren't going to get 22 140mm shells in a tank with a turret that small.
2. 3 MGs seems so very redundant. When will you ever be lucky enough to have the enemy soldiers stand in front of your tank while a hull mounted machine gun mows them down?
3. I don't think you can do applique electric armour, and while I am don't know much about electrical armour (should probably ask Sumer or someone), I imagine that it would be rather expensive, to the point where you are better off just relying on more traditional armour.
4. Your tank is gonna be slow (most likely), it has a rather small engine by western standards (M1A2, Leo 2, Chally 2E, K2, Ariete, Type 99, and the Type 90 all have more powerful engines) (yes I consider Japan, Korea, and China western countries, since they are about as advanced as them), and is going to be "heavy", which by my standards is generally over 65 tons, and thus your tank will probably be a tad slow.

So replace the engine with a turbine powering electric transmission
make electric armor non-applique
More MG = better, especially when it's used to clear riots in the ruins of Seattle.

Edit: I was also thinking of having, say, 4 dismounts. Possible?

Ahh can't remember
Where do you draw the tanks/ships?

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

So make moar tank desant

EDIT: this is for PMT

I thought the point of the misinterpretation of the Merkava's transport abilities was so that people could have their troops kept safe inside the tank. If that is the reasoning than tank desant is meaningless, because all you need is a good shot and you can kill off everyone on the tank. If you do decide to go for the tank desant route, add handle bars so the soldiers have something to grab onto.

[Strykla]

I thought the point of the misinterpretation of the Merkava's transport abilities was so that people could have their troops kept safe inside the tank. If that is the reasoning than tank desant is meaningless, because all you need is a good shot and you can kill off everyone on the tank. If you do decide to go for the tank desant route, add handle bars so the soldiers have something to grab onto.

Updated pic

Alright, since after downloading and trying my hand at it, it appears I suck at paintbrush worse than a blind man.
If you have the time, could I ask you to make a tank for me?

[Strykla]

Alright, since after downloading and trying my hand at it, it appears I suck at paintbrush worse than a blind man.
If you have the time, could I ask you to make a tank for me?

Uh, I'll give it a shot. What do you need?

http://www.cncnz.com/images/games/cnc3/units/g_predator_tank.jpg
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100221163053/cnc/images/1/18/CNCTW_Predator_HQ_Render.png
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20060622125632/cnc/images/4/4e/Predator.jpg
Something along those lines. Forget the shit launcher in the last pic, though. I can make the specs, all I need is the frame.

[Strykla]

I'll do it but not with the four track thing. I've got something in mind though. What type of terrain does it need to be used on, and what targets used against?

It's fine without the four treads. It should go on most types of terrain, as I pictured it with a torsion bar, like the M1, although I'm not sure that will be able. It's an MBT, with armor similar to the M1 and/or Chally, and it has a 125mm gun, more or less an "up-sized" version of the M256. The tank itself should also have a turbine engine, as they give you just as much mobility as a diesel with less noise.