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Postby L3 Communications » Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:40 pm

Licana wrote:
L3 Communications wrote:
tbh

use SiC, BC, or other hard, dense ceramic with DU rods for support encased in steel

no buckypaper

Maybe this is my n00bness at tank warfare showing, but what good would SiC armour do?


IT'S REALLY FUCKING HARD

That's wut.
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Postby Neblewerfer » Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:41 pm

This is just an early concept of my tank.
I am not done adding electronics and add-on armor, not to mention some bugs with the weapons system in the turret.
Any thoughts?

Pz-13 Black Bear
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Postby The Corparation » Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:45 pm

Neblewerfer wrote:This is just an early concept of my tank.
I am not done adding electronics and add-on armor, not to mention some bugs with the weapons system in the turret.
Any thoughts?

Pz-13 Black Bear
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Postby Rusikstan » Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:48 pm

Neblewerfer wrote:This is just an early concept of my tank.
I am not done adding electronics and add-on armor, not to mention some bugs with the weapons system in the turret.
Any thoughts?

Pz-13 Black Bear
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I must say that is a very nice looking tank. Perhaps you can give me some pointers on drawing in Sketch up? I've not yet actually tried to do something like this, but i imagine its difficult.

That said, you seem to have two "indentations" on the tank that if shot would prove to be nasty. This maybe due to the 3D factor of SKUP though so they may not be indenations at all. It looks like there are lights there or something. Also where is your driver's hatch?
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Postby Scandavian States » Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:49 pm

Licana wrote:His tank has bucky-paper and nano-carbons in it. Even if he's PMT that's going to be pretty expensive. (not to mention that Mr. PhD in tankology already shot that idea down)


Ah, missed the bucky-paper idea. Nano-aligned materials aren't necessarily as difficult, or even all that expensive, just tedious. As for bucky-paper not working, I'm sure it wouldn't work as intended by itself, but as a metal-encased ceramic sandwich it very well could be an effective component. I'm surprised to not see more use of tri-modal aluminum, myself.

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Postby Licana » Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:57 pm

Scandavian States wrote:Ah, missed the bucky-paper idea. Nano-aligned materials aren't necessarily as difficult, or even all that expensive, just tedious. As for bucky-paper not working, I'm sure it wouldn't work as intended by itself, but as a metal-encased ceramic sandwich it very well could be an effective component. I'm surprised to not see more use of tri-modal aluminum, myself.

Yeah, I guess that could work, but then again, I know almost jack-shit about tank armour. Probably why I still haven't come up with a feasible set-up for my PMT tank...
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Postby Neblewerfer » Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:06 pm

Rusikstan wrote:
Neblewerfer wrote:This is just an early concept of my tank.
I am not done adding electronics and add-on armor, not to mention some bugs with the weapons system in the turret.
Any thoughts?

Pz-13 Black Bear
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I must say that is a very nice looking tank. Perhaps you can give me some pointers on drawing in Sketch up? I've not yet actually tried to do something like this, but i imagine its difficult.

That said, you seem to have two "indentations" on the tank that if shot would prove to be nasty. This maybe due to the 3D factor of SKUP though so they may not be indenations at all. It looks like there are lights there or something. Also where is your driver's hatch?


On the front of the tank, those are my headlights. I wanted to make it a bar frame, but Google Sketchup is a pain in the ass as far as detail goes, and I haven't messed with it. I wasn't particularly worried since my engine is mounted in the front of the tank like the Merkava series, and the frontal armor is very thick. I may change the slope later and fix it though, I'm not sure at this point. I know a heat round or a SABOT would have fun on a flat slab like that, but considering how small they are, and how much metal is between them and the crew I didn't fuss on it. Because the tank has a motor in the front, and a very low slope on the front armor, I didn't have room for a drivers hatch. That was one of my drawbacks I'm trying to fix. The best I have now are the two clear triangular panels behind the engine access panel, under the front of the turret. These Plexiglas plates house cameras that provide feed to the driver's station, along with the turret top camera feed. Its not Ideal and I'm trying to figure out how to get a direct periscope view without cramming the 1m by 1m maximum space for my engine block.

Google sketchup is like an old map editor for a novalogic game. It is ungainly at first, but once you get used to its little habits and glitches you can make some pretty cool stuff. I made a space station for a NASA competition for High School students and got pretty knowledgeable with it. The trick is learning how to drag edges to get you slopes and pull off stunts with the push/pull tool. It mostly takes practice since the software has its own code telling it how to fold and drag planes regardless of what you want it to do.

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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:10 pm

The Nuclear Fist wrote:TR-5 'Colossus'
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Type: Main Battle Tank
Manufacturer: Spiru Heavy Industrial Plant
Place Of Origin: The Nuclear Fist
Unit Cost: 11 million USD
Weight: 55.9 tonnes
Length: 11.2 m
Width: 3.8 m
Height: 2.4 m
Crew: 3(commander, driver and 1 gunner)
Armour: Rolled homogeneous armour, steel-encased Depleted Uranium plating, heavy steel mesh plating, Nano-crystalized carbon-steel, SiC dense ceramic supported by steel-encased DU rods, tri-modal aluminum, prototype TR-10s being modified with steel-encased buckypaper for extreme protection. Results unvarified. Deemed to be 'favorible.'
Primary Armament: 140mm ETC Rifled Autoloading Cannon w/ATGM, GLATM, HE-OR capabilities
Secondary Armament:
-1x 30mm autocannon firing DU rounds
-Remote Controlled Weapon Station
- .50 caliber Anti-Aircraft machine gun
Engine: 12-cyl. diesel/ethanol, 1,500 hp, nuclear turbine being experimented with
Transmission: two gear-boxes with side transmission in gear-box axes
Suspension: independent, with torsion bars, 6 hydraulic dampers, 6 road wheels and 3 return rollers per side
Operational Range: 510 mi
Ground Clearance: 438 mm
Speed: 55 mph
Steering System: Hydraulic
Side notes:
-JD-4 integrated laser rangefinder/warning/self-defense device
-"Quick Kill" active protection system
-The turret is fitted with two six-barreled smoke grenade launchers. These can create a thick smoke that blocks both vision and thermal imaging, and can also be armed with chaff. The engine is also equipped with a smoke generator that is triggered by the driver.
-Softkill/Hardkill Active protection system
-AN/VLQ-6 Missile Countermeasure Device
-Thermal/Infrared Imaging Standard
-Fuel cells protected by layered buckypaper mesh plating, Nano-crystalized carbon-steel
-Track skirts protected by reactive armour and Chobham
-Protection against spalling provided by heavy-kevlar liner
-In the chance that the TR-5 does suffer damage resulting in crew compartment fire, the tank is equipped with a halon fire-suppression system that automatically engages and extinguishes fires in seconds.
-Fuel and ammunition are in armored compartments with blowout panels to protect the crew from the risk of the tank's own ammunition cooking off if the tank is damaged.
-Fire Control Computer/JD-4 hybrid laser interface allows gunner to directly attack enemy weapon's optics and gunner, and when coupled allows data to be directly calculated via the infrared laser targeting systems of the JD-4. The resulting effect is that the JD-4 is able to fry missile circuitry, and blind enemy missile operators,
-Laser guidance systems(JD-4) allows pinpoint accuracy in the main gun, as well as tactical battlefield efficiency to be greatly increased at the elimination of data miscalculations due to the FCC/JD-4 hybrid systems. With the JD-4, the turret automatically aligns towards hostile laser emitters.
-'Black Fox' Multi-Spectral Stealth technology embedded in an 'onion ring defensive' allows the TR-5 to literally become invisible to thermal imaging. Two panoramic cameras on swivel-mounts scan the tank's surroundings through a 360 degree hemisphere around said tank. Image processing and control electronics are used to sense and match the background scene, creating a deceptive image for display, on multiple active-mounted panels, on the protected platform. The image mimics the background signature, creating a stealth illusion, by realistically representing the surrounding 'noise' clutter and distinctive texture, thus effectively blending into the background. The cameras are continuously scanning the surrounding area, aligned with the horizon on a pan-tilt assembly (PTZ), to efficiently render the correct image when the vehicle is moving, exposed over the skyline, or against changing backgrounds. These cameras also perform periodical measurement of the protected platform, gaining critical feedback, monitoring effectiveness of the concealment it is providing. Another utility supported by the 'Black Fox' is the ability to trigger thermal signaling on demand. The active panels can be programmed to display a coded number or pattern, operating as a Combat IDentification (CID) system, triggered by the crew, with a laser beam or interrogator friend/foe (IFF) system. When the vehicle is on the move, the active panels display a changing image or pattern, maintaining an optimal concealment in every direction – frontal, sideways and top views, hiding the platform from prowling thermal eyes of satellites, UAVs, low flying helicopters or ground observations. In addition to its capability to 'blend into the background', applying the signature of a nearby building, an orchard or a bush, 'Black Fox' can also mimic other shapes and signatures. For example, a system 'worn' by an M-1 tank can render said tank to look like a T-72, or 'downsize' the tank signature to clone as an M-113 APC, or even a non military pickup truck. The system also enables the crew to manually 'copy and paste' background features and display them on their 'Black Fox' suite, to refine the stealth effect. The complete process is performed automatically and rapidly, enabling the crew to enter into a 'stealth mode' by the push of a single button. With such capabilities, the 'Black Fox' is an important asset in the Proletariat Liberation Army's ability to deny enemy use of automatic target recognition systems, by eliminating distinguishable details of potential objectives. Such capabilities are also utilized for training, employing the system on smaller surrogate vehicles, designed to perform as larger combat vehicles.
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My edited second try. I looked over some of the comments, and I've bachtracked my research. So I think this is pretty good.
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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:11 pm

The Nuclear Fist wrote:TR-5 'Colossus'
Image

Type: Main Battle Tank
Manufacturer: Spiru Heavy Industrial Plant
Place Of Origin: The Nuclear Fist
Unit Cost: 11 million USD
Weight: 55.9 tonnes
Length: 11.2 m
Width: 3.8 m
Height: 2.4 m
Crew: 3(commander, driver and 1 gunner)
Armour: Rolled homogeneous armour, steel-encased Depleted Uranium plating, heavy steel mesh plating, Nano-crystalized carbon-steel, SiC dense ceramic supported by steel-encased DU rods, tri-modal aluminum, prototype TR-10s being modified with steel-encased buckypaper for extreme protection. Results unvarified. Deemed to be 'favorible.'
Primary Armament: 140mm ETC Rifled Autoloading Cannon w/ATGM, GLATM, HE-OR capabilities
Secondary Armament:
-1x 30mm autocannon firing DU rounds
-Remote Controlled Weapon Station
- .50 caliber Anti-Aircraft machine gun
Engine: 12-cyl. diesel/ethanol, 1,500 hp, nuclear turbine being experimented with
Transmission: two gear-boxes with side transmission in gear-box axes
Suspension: independent, with torsion bars, 6 hydraulic dampers, 6 road wheels and 3 return rollers per side
Operational Range: 510 mi
Ground Clearance: 438 mm
Speed: 55 mph
Steering System: Hydraulic
Side notes:
-JD-4 integrated laser rangefinder/warning/self-defense device
-"Quick Kill" active protection system
-The turret is fitted with two six-barreled smoke grenade launchers (USMC M1A1s use an eight-barreled version). These can create a thick smoke that blocks both vision and thermal imaging, and can also be armed with chaff. The engine is also equipped with a smoke generator that is triggered by the driver.
-Softkill/Hardkill Active protection system
-AN/VLQ-6 Missile Countermeasure Device
-Thermal/Infrared Imaging Standard
-Fuel cells protected by layered buckypaper mesh plating, Nano-crystalized carbon-steel
-Track skirts protected by reactive armour and Chobham
-Protection against spalling provided by heavy-kevlar liner
-In the chance that the TR-5 does suffer damage resulting in crew compartment fire, the tank is equipped with a halon fire-suppression system that automatically engages and extinguishes fires in seconds.
-Fuel and ammunition are in armored compartments with blowout panels to protect the crew from the risk of the tank's own ammunition cooking off if the tank is damaged.
-Fire Control Computer/JD-4 hybrid laser interface allows gunner to directly attack enemy weapon's optics and gunner, and when coupled allows data to be directly calculated via the infrared laser targeting systems of the JD-4. The resulting effect is that the JD-4 is able to fry missile circuitry, and blind enemy missile operators,
-Laser guidance systems(JD-4) allows pinpoint accuracy in the main gun, as well as tactical battlefield efficiency to be greatly increased at the elimination of data miscalculations due to the FCC/JD-4 hybrid systems. With the JD-4, the turret automatically aligns towards hostile laser emitters.
-'Black Fox' Multi-Spectral Stealth technology embedded in an 'onion ring defensive' allows the TR-5 to literally become invisible to thermal imaging. Two panoramic cameras on swivel-mounts scan the tank's surroundings through a 360 degree hemisphere around said tank. Image processing and control electronics are used to sense and match the background scene, creating a deceptive image for display, on multiple active-mounted panels, on the protected platform. The image mimics the background signature, creating a stealth illusion, by realistically representing the surrounding 'noise' clutter and distinctive texture, thus effectively blending into the background. The cameras are continuously scanning the surrounding area, aligned with the horizon on a pan-tilt assembly (PTZ), to efficiently render the correct image when the vehicle is moving, exposed over the skyline, or against changing backgrounds. These cameras also perform periodical measurement of the protected platform, gaining critical feedback, monitoring effectiveness of the concealment it is providing. Another utility supported by the 'Black Fox' is the ability to trigger thermal signaling on demand. The active panels can be programmed to display a coded number or pattern, operating as a Combat IDentification (CID) system, triggered by the crew, with a laser beam or interrogator friend/foe (IFF) system. When the vehicle is on the move, the active panels display a changing image or pattern, maintaining an optimal concealment in every direction – frontal, sideways and top views, hiding the platform from prowling thermal eyes of satellites, UAVs, low flying helicopters or ground observations. In addition to its capability to 'blend into the background', applying the signature of a nearby building, an orchard or a bush, 'Black Fox' can also mimic other shapes and signatures. For example, a system 'worn' by an M-1 tank can render said tank to look like a T-72, or 'downsize' the tank signature to clone as an M-113 APC, or even a non military pickup truck. The system also enables the crew to manually 'copy and paste' background features and display them on their 'Black Fox' suite, to refine the stealth effect. The complete process is performed automatically and rapidly, enabling the crew to enter into a 'stealth mode' by the push of a single button. With such capabilities, the 'Black Fox' is an important asset in the Proletariat Liberation Army's ability to deny enemy use of automatic target recognition systems, by eliminating distinguishable details of potential objectives. Such capabilities are also utilized for training, employing the system on smaller surrogate vehicles, designed to perform as larger combat vehicles.
-Heating Standard

Hard to read, break it up, or just make a writeup.
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Postby Wikipedia and Universe » Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:13 pm

L3 Communications wrote:
Licana wrote:Maybe this is my n00bness at tank warfare showing, but what good would SiC armour do?


IT'S REALLY FUCKING HARD

That's wut.

Is this an innocent slip, or were you asking for someone to drop an innuendo there?
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:15 pm

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:TR-5 'Colossus'
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Type: Main Battle Tank
Manufacturer: Spiru Heavy Industrial Plant
Place Of Origin: The Nuclear Fist
Unit Cost: 11 million USD
Weight: 55.9 tonnes
Length: 11.2 m
Width: 3.8 m
Height: 2.4 m
Crew: 3(commander, driver and 1 gunner)
Armour: Rolled homogeneous armour, steel-encased Depleted Uranium plating, heavy steel mesh plating, Nano-crystalized carbon-steel, SiC dense ceramic supported by steel-encased DU rods, tri-modal aluminum, prototype TR-10s being modified with steel-encased buckypaper for extreme protection. Results unvarified. Deemed to be 'favorible.'
Primary Armament: 140mm ETC Rifled Autoloading Cannon w/ATGM, GLATM, HE-OR capabilities
Secondary Armament:
-1x 30mm autocannon firing DU rounds
-Remote Controlled Weapon Station
- .50 caliber Anti-Aircraft machine gun
Engine: 12-cyl. diesel/ethanol, 1,500 hp, nuclear turbine being experimented with
Transmission: two gear-boxes with side transmission in gear-box axes
Suspension: independent, with torsion bars, 6 hydraulic dampers, 6 road wheels and 3 return rollers per side
Operational Range: 510 mi
Ground Clearance: 438 mm
Speed: 55 mph
Steering System: Hydraulic
Side notes:
-JD-4 integrated laser rangefinder/warning/self-defense device
-"Quick Kill" active protection system
-The turret is fitted with two six-barreled smoke grenade launchers (USMC M1A1s use an eight-barreled version). These can create a thick smoke that blocks both vision and thermal imaging, and can also be armed with chaff. The engine is also equipped with a smoke generator that is triggered by the driver.
-Softkill/Hardkill Active protection system
-AN/VLQ-6 Missile Countermeasure Device
-Thermal/Infrared Imaging Standard
-Fuel cells protected by layered buckypaper mesh plating, Nano-crystalized carbon-steel
-Track skirts protected by reactive armour and Chobham
-Protection against spalling provided by heavy-kevlar liner
-In the chance that the TR-5 does suffer damage resulting in crew compartment fire, the tank is equipped with a halon fire-suppression system that automatically engages and extinguishes fires in seconds.
-Fuel and ammunition are in armored compartments with blowout panels to protect the crew from the risk of the tank's own ammunition cooking off if the tank is damaged.
-Fire Control Computer/JD-4 hybrid laser interface allows gunner to directly attack enemy weapon's optics and gunner, and when coupled allows data to be directly calculated via the infrared laser targeting systems of the JD-4. The resulting effect is that the JD-4 is able to fry missile circuitry, and blind enemy missile operators,
-Laser guidance systems(JD-4) allows pinpoint accuracy in the main gun, as well as tactical battlefield efficiency to be greatly increased at the elimination of data miscalculations due to the FCC/JD-4 hybrid systems. With the JD-4, the turret automatically aligns towards hostile laser emitters.
-'Black Fox' Multi-Spectral Stealth technology embedded in an 'onion ring defensive' allows the TR-5 to literally become invisible to thermal imaging.

Two panoramic cameras on swivel-mounts scan the tank's surroundings through a 360 degree hemisphere around said tank. Image processing and control electronics are used to sense and match the background scene, creating a deceptive image for display, on multiple active-mounted panels, on the protected platform. The image mimics the background signature, creating a stealth illusion, by realistically representing the surrounding 'noise' clutter and distinctive texture, thus effectively blending into the background.

The cameras are continuously scanning the surrounding area, aligned with the horizon on a pan-tilt assembly (PTZ), to efficiently render the correct image when the vehicle is moving, exposed over the skyline, or against changing backgrounds. These cameras also perform periodical measurement of the protected platform, gaining critical feedback, monitoring effectiveness of the concealment it is providing.

Another utility supported by the 'Black Fox' is the ability to trigger thermal signaling on demand. The active panels can be programmed to display a coded number or pattern, operating as a Combat IDentification (CID) system, triggered by the crew, with a laser beam or interrogator friend/foe (IFF) system. When the vehicle is on the move, the active panels display a changing image or pattern, maintaining an optimal concealment in every direction – frontal, sideways and top views, hiding the platform from prowling thermal eyes of satellites, UAVs, low flying helicopters or ground observations.

In addition to its capability to 'blend into the background', applying the signature of a nearby building, an orchard or a bush, 'Black Fox' can also mimic other shapes and signatures. For example, a system 'worn' by an M-1 tank can render said tank to look like a T-72, or 'downsize' the tank signature to clone as an M-113 APC, or even a non military pickup truck. The system also enables the crew to manually 'copy and paste' background features and display them on their 'Black Fox' suite, to refine the stealth effect.

The complete process is performed automatically and rapidly, enabling the crew to enter into a 'stealth mode' by the push of a single button. With such capabilities, the 'Black Fox' is an important asset in the Proletariat Liberation Army's ability to deny enemy use of automatic target recognition systems, by eliminating distinguishable details of potential objectives. Such capabilities are also utilized for training, employing the system on smaller surrogate vehicles, designed to perform as larger combat vehicles.
-Heating Standard

Hard to read, break it up, or just make a writeup.

I uh, broke it up. Not sure what you meant by 'make a writeup.'
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Postby Licana » Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:15 pm

Wikipedia and Universe wrote:
L3 Communications wrote:
IT'S REALLY FUCKING HARD

That's wut.

Is this an innocent slip, or were you asking for someone to drop an innuendo there?

Wow, to think that I didn't even see that...lol.
Anyway, what would be a good PMT armour set up, 'cause I can't really think of anything.
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So was the M-16.

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Postby Neblewerfer » Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:18 pm

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:TR-5 'Colossus'
Image

Type: Main Battle Tank
Manufacturer: Spiru Heavy Industrial Plant
Place Of Origin: The Nuclear Fist
Unit Cost: 11 million USD
Weight: 55.9 tonnes
Length: 11.2 m
Width: 3.8 m
Height: 2.4 m
Crew: 3(commander, driver and 1 gunner)
Armour: Rolled homogeneous armour, steel-encased Depleted Uranium plating, heavy steel mesh plating, Nano-crystalized carbon-steel, SiC dense ceramic supported by steel-encased DU rods, tri-modal aluminum, prototype TR-10s being modified with steel-encased buckypaper for extreme protection. Results unvarified. Deemed to be 'favorible.'
Primary Armament: 140mm ETC Rifled Autoloading Cannon w/ATGM, GLATM, HE-OR capabilities
Secondary Armament:
-1x 30mm autocannon firing DU rounds
-Remote Controlled Weapon Station
- .50 caliber Anti-Aircraft machine gun
Engine: 12-cyl. diesel/ethanol, 1,500 hp, nuclear turbine being experimented with
Transmission: two gear-boxes with side transmission in gear-box axes
Suspension: independent, with torsion bars, 6 hydraulic dampers, 6 road wheels and 3 return rollers per side
Operational Range: 510 mi
Ground Clearance: 438 mm
Speed: 55 mph
Steering System: Hydraulic
Side notes:
-JD-4 integrated laser rangefinder/warning/self-defense device
-"Quick Kill" active protection system
-The turret is fitted with two six-barreled smoke grenade launchers. These can create a thick smoke that blocks both vision and thermal imaging, and can also be armed with chaff. The engine is also equipped with a smoke generator that is triggered by the driver.
-Softkill/Hardkill Active protection system
-AN/VLQ-6 Missile Countermeasure Device
-Thermal/Infrared Imaging Standard
-Fuel cells protected by layered buckypaper mesh plating, Nano-crystalized carbon-steel
-Track skirts protected by reactive armour and Chobham
-Protection against spalling provided by heavy-kevlar liner
-In the chance that the TR-5 does suffer damage resulting in crew compartment fire, the tank is equipped with a halon fire-suppression system that automatically engages and extinguishes fires in seconds.
-Fuel and ammunition are in armored compartments with blowout panels to protect the crew from the risk of the tank's own ammunition cooking off if the tank is damaged.
-Fire Control Computer/JD-4 hybrid laser interface allows gunner to directly attack enemy weapon's optics and gunner, and when coupled allows data to be directly calculated via the infrared laser targeting systems of the JD-4. The resulting effect is that the JD-4 is able to fry missile circuitry, and blind enemy missile operators,
-Laser guidance systems(JD-4) allows pinpoint accuracy in the main gun, as well as tactical battlefield efficiency to be greatly increased at the elimination of data miscalculations due to the FCC/JD-4 hybrid systems. With the JD-4, the turret automatically aligns towards hostile laser emitters.
-'Black Fox' Multi-Spectral Stealth technology embedded in an 'onion ring defensive' allows the TR-5 to literally become invisible to thermal imaging. Two panoramic cameras on swivel-mounts scan the tank's surroundings through a 360 degree hemisphere around said tank. Image processing and control electronics are used to sense and match the background scene, creating a deceptive image for display, on multiple active-mounted panels, on the protected platform. The image mimics the background signature, creating a stealth illusion, by realistically representing the surrounding 'noise' clutter and distinctive texture, thus effectively blending into the background. The cameras are continuously scanning the surrounding area, aligned with the horizon on a pan-tilt assembly (PTZ), to efficiently render the correct image when the vehicle is moving, exposed over the skyline, or against changing backgrounds. These cameras also perform periodical measurement of the protected platform, gaining critical feedback, monitoring effectiveness of the concealment it is providing. Another utility supported by the 'Black Fox' is the ability to trigger thermal signaling on demand. The active panels can be programmed to display a coded number or pattern, operating as a Combat IDentification (CID) system, triggered by the crew, with a laser beam or interrogator friend/foe (IFF) system. When the vehicle is on the move, the active panels display a changing image or pattern, maintaining an optimal concealment in every direction – frontal, sideways and top views, hiding the platform from prowling thermal eyes of satellites, UAVs, low flying helicopters or ground observations. In addition to its capability to 'blend into the background', applying the signature of a nearby building, an orchard or a bush, 'Black Fox' can also mimic other shapes and signatures. For example, a system 'worn' by an M-1 tank can render said tank to look like a T-72, or 'downsize' the tank signature to clone as an M-113 APC, or even a non military pickup truck. The system also enables the crew to manually 'copy and paste' background features and display them on their 'Black Fox' suite, to refine the stealth effect. The complete process is performed automatically and rapidly, enabling the crew to enter into a 'stealth mode' by the push of a single button. With such capabilities, the 'Black Fox' is an important asset in the Proletariat Liberation Army's ability to deny enemy use of automatic target recognition systems, by eliminating distinguishable details of potential objectives. Such capabilities are also utilized for training, employing the system on smaller surrogate vehicles, designed to perform as larger combat vehicles.
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My edited second try. I looked over some of the comments, and I've bachtracked my research. So I think this is pretty good.



Did you mask your Thermal signature? That is more important than optical camo.

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Congrats on being the 10,000,000th person to do that. Clever. -Sarcasm.-
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Ykpaihaa wrote:Image


Congrats on being the 10,000,000th person to do that. Clever. -Sarcasm.-

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A Challenger 2, $7,921,000.
A Merkava $4.5-$5 million.
An LY4A2 $14 million.
The odds of this image not appearing in a tank thread?
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:29 pm

Neblewerfer wrote:Did you mask your Thermal signature? That is more important than optical camo.

The 'Black Fox' adheres entirely into the armour, and over all hotspots. Due to it's near imperviousness to heat, it is able to work properly. The Black Fox is able to completely mask thermal signatures, leaving the thing adhered to invisible to Thermal Imaging. And the LD-4 implanted fries missile circuitry with infrared rays, destroying optical systems and creating literal blindspots. Not to mention it blisters and melts your corneas. (Which is why the UN banned it).
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Postby Neblewerfer » Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:30 pm

Sounds like the Mirage tank off or C&C red alert 2.

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Postby Neblewerfer » Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:34 pm

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
Neblewerfer wrote:Did you mask your Thermal signature? That is more important than optical camo.

The 'Black Fox' adheres entirely into the armour, and over all hotspots. Due to it's near imperviousness to heat, it is able to work properly. The Black Fox is able to completely mask thermal signatures, leaving the thing adhered to invisible to Thermal Imaging. And the LD-4 implanted fries missile circuitry with infrared rays, destroying optical systems and creating literal blindspots. Not to mention it blisters and melts your corneas. (Which is why the UN banned it).


the Chinese have something like that on they new Type-99G. It is a counter sensory laser system that can burn up missiles, and apparently the Chinese figured out that if you aim it at another tank's gun sights it will blind the gunner trying to aim his cannon long enough for the Type-99G to pump a 125mm into his ass.

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Postby Ykpaihaa » Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:35 pm

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Ykpaihaa wrote:Image

A Challenger 2, $7,921,000.
A Merkava $4.5-$5 million.
An LY4A2 $14 million.
The odds of this image not appearing in a tank thread?
Priceless.

I'm afraid I wasn't aware that this was such a common joke. Apologies, although you must admit, a tank like this in the field of battle would certainly strike fear in the hearts of the enemy.
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Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:45 pm

Ykpaihaa wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:A Challenger 2, $7,921,000.
A Merkava $4.5-$5 million.
An LY4A2 $14 million.
The odds of this image not appearing in a tank thread?
Priceless.

I'm afraid I wasn't aware that this was such a common joke. Apologies, although you must admit, a tank like this in the field of battle would certainly strike fear in the hearts of the enemy.


Especially if there's a real tank hidden underneath it all.
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:46 pm

Neblewerfer wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:The 'Black Fox' adheres entirely into the armour, and over all hotspots. Due to it's near imperviousness to heat, it is able to work properly. The Black Fox is able to completely mask thermal signatures, leaving the thing adhered to invisible to Thermal Imaging. And the LD-4 implanted fries missile circuitry with infrared rays, destroying optical systems and creating literal blindspots. Not to mention it blisters and melts your corneas. (Which is why the UN banned it).


the Chinese have something like that on they new Type-99G. It is a counter sensory laser system that can burn up missiles, and apparently the Chinese figured out that if you aim it at another tank's gun sights it will blind the gunner trying to aim his cannon long enough for the Type-99G to pump a 125mm into his ass.

It wouldn't temporarily blind someone. It would not only burn up his tanks' optical sensory equipment, it would ment and blister the gunner's cornias, blinding him forever.
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Postby Neblewerfer » Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:57 pm

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
Neblewerfer wrote:
the Chinese have something like that on they new Type-99G. It is a counter sensory laser system that can burn up missiles, and apparently the Chinese figured out that if you aim it at another tank's gun sights it will blind the gunner trying to aim his cannon long enough for the Type-99G to pump a 125mm into his ass.

It wouldn't temporarily blind someone. It would not only burn up his tanks' optical sensory equipment, it would ment and blister the gunner's cornias, blinding him forever.



I know, I'm just saying the Chinese have something like that. If they hit you with it out in the open you would go blind permanently, but they can pinpoint it and put it right through the gunners GPS, and he would be blind the better part of the day, as well as having permanent vision loss. That is a hole about the size of a tennis ball and the beam travels through multiple lenses, yet it can still blind the gunner. I thought it was pretty intense. I haven't read about anything stronger yet, but I'm behind on my Defense tech reading because of college application paperwork.
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Postby Imperial isa » Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:15 pm

Ykpaihaa wrote:would certainly strike fear in the hearts of the enemy.

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