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Pretty much. We look cool, and we'll kick ass in very specific situations, but other than that....ah well. :lol2:



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Postby Satirius » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:21 pm

Bajireyn wrote:this is not related to any of my post above but which would be a better IFV/APC for my airborne calvary
the stryker or the M113 or some other vehicle?

Russian stuff tend to be better with the aircav because the VDV is lolhueg

Use a BMD-3/4. Has the lolpowerful 100mm gun, 30mm coax, and can fall from the sky with the crew in it
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Postby Amerikians » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:24 pm

Satirius wrote:
Bajireyn wrote:this is not related to any of my post above but which would be a better IFV/APC for my airborne calvary
the stryker or the M113 or some other vehicle?

Russian stuff tend to be better with the aircav because the VDV is lolhueg

Use a BMD-3/4. Has the lolpowerful 100mm gun, 30mm coax, and can fall from the sky with the crew in it


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Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:28 pm

Amerikians wrote:
Satirius wrote:Russian stuff tend to be better with the aircav because the VDV is lolhueg

Use a BMD-3/4. Has the lolpowerful 100mm gun, 30mm coax, and can fall from the sky with the crew in it


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You could design your own American influenced one.
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Postby Satirius » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:29 pm

Amerikians wrote:
Satirius wrote:Russian stuff tend to be better with the aircav because the VDV is lolhueg

Use a BMD-3/4. Has the lolpowerful 100mm gun, 30mm coax, and can fall from the sky with the crew in it


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has a capacity for 4 but there's some other variants such as an APC and one that uses some ZSU-23-2(I think, too lazy to check WP, could be -4) for a light SPAAG
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Postby Imperial isa » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:29 pm

Crookfur wrote:
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he was not serious?


Hey i'm Crookfur I'm Always serious All the time!


Next thing you know you'll be claiming that the detachable biplane modification for the mighty gavin isn't the greatest idea ever and isn't entirely well thought...





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Postby Alternate Russia » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:30 pm

Bajireyn wrote:this is not related to any of my post above but which would be a better IFV/APC for my airborne calvary
the stryker or the M113 or some other vehicle?


BMD-3/4 for IFV as Satirius suggested.

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BTR-D for APC.

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CATTB anyone? Has this been mentioned yet?

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Satirius wrote:
Amerikians wrote:
-Just ditched the M551...- Sweet. -Adopts evilcommietech; begrudgingly.-

has a capacity for 4 but there's some other variants such as an APC and one that uses some ZSU-23-2(I think, too lazy to check WP, could be -4) for a light SPAAG


Epic. Found a suitable replacement though without having to go Commie-Tech.

M-8. ;D
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Postby L3 Communications » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:40 pm

Neblewerfer wrote:CATTB anyone? Has this been mentioned yet?

*snip*


Wasn't that an ETC testbed?
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Postby Neblewerfer » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:43 pm

L3 Communications wrote:
Neblewerfer wrote:CATTB anyone? Has this been mentioned yet?

*snip*


Wasn't that an ETC testbed?


Might have been, I keep hearing its a shelf plan for the Abrams replacement in the next major war, but not a lot of details on it. I think an ETC gun was looked at, but I was under the assumption it was capable of housing a standard 120mm, or beefed up 140mm main gun. The sucker also has modular armor so it can mount the latest and greatest panels on it.

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Postby Satirius » Thu Oct 21, 2010 5:52 pm

Amerikians wrote:
Satirius wrote:has a capacity for 4 but there's some other variants such as an APC and one that uses some ZSU-23-2(I think, too lazy to check WP, could be -4) for a light SPAAG


Epic. Found a suitable replacement though without having to go Commie-Tech.

M-8. ;D

The BMD-3 has infantry capacity, but then you were searching for a light tank.
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Postby Amerikians » Thu Oct 21, 2010 5:56 pm

Satirius wrote:
Amerikians wrote:
Epic. Found a suitable replacement though without having to go Commie-Tech.

M-8. ;D

The BMD-3 has infantry capacity, but then you were searching for a light tank.


Indeed I was. The United States of Amerika; the nation in the universe where the Cold War never ends. ;D The Best of the Best or end up Red like the Rest. ;~;
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Postby The Corparation » Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:25 pm

Neblewerfer wrote:CATTB anyone? Has this been mentioned yet?

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I want more info on that. Also why's the turret on the second one down's different.
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Postby L3 Communications » Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:34 pm

Amerikians wrote:
Satirius wrote:The BMD-3 has infantry capacity, but then you were searching for a light tank.


Indeed I was. The United States of Amerika; the nation in the universe where the Cold War never ends. ;D The Best of the Best or end up Red like the Rest. ;~;


Then shouldn't you have tech almost exactly like NS, since NS is just like a universe where the Cold War never ended?

APS (both soft- and hard-kill), ETC 120/140mm guns, standoff anti-armour top-attack munitions (STAFF, TERM), integrated battle networks and FCS...
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Postby Greater United Russia » Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:36 pm

L3 Communications wrote:
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Indeed I was. The United States of Amerika; the nation in the universe where the Cold War never ends. ;D The Best of the Best or end up Red like the Rest. ;~;


Then shouldn't you have tech almost exactly like NS, since NS is just like a universe where the Cold War never ended?

APS (both soft- and hard-kill), ETC 120/140mm guns, standoff anti-armour top-attack munitions (STAFF, TERM), integrated battle networks and FCS...


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Postby L3 Communications » Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:39 pm

Greater United Russia wrote:
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Then shouldn't you have tech almost exactly like NS, since NS is just like a universe where the Cold War never ended?

APS (both soft- and hard-kill), ETC 120/140mm guns, standoff anti-armour top-attack munitions (STAFF, TERM), integrated battle networks and FCS...


The less he adapts the easier my job is. Don't encourage the West.


You get autoloaders, tiny tanks, fancy ERA, and really neat GLATGMs.

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That or economic collapse.
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Postby Greater United Russia » Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:40 pm

L3 Communications wrote:
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The less he adapts the easier my job is. Don't encourage the West.


You get autoloaders, tiny tanks, fancy ERA, and really neat GLATGMs.

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That or economic collapse.


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Postby Satirius » Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:48 pm

L3 Communications wrote:
Amerikians wrote:
Indeed I was. The United States of Amerika; the nation in the universe where the Cold War never ends. ;D The Best of the Best or end up Red like the Rest. ;~;


Then shouldn't you have tech almost exactly like NS, since NS is just like a universe where the Cold War never ended?

APS (both soft- and hard-kill), ETC 120/140mm guns, standoff anti-armour top-attack munitions (STAFF, TERM), integrated battle networks and FCS...

more like where WWII never ended
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Postby Neblewerfer » Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:49 pm

The second one down was a testbed for an unmanned turret. Apparently 90 something percent of all know hits on tanks occurred in the turret, at least according to some huge article on nextgen tanks I read a while back. Needless to say it is the most often hit part of a tank. Because of this they figured it might be much better if there was just a shell of a turret with a vertical loafing system like a rifle clip, that way the crew wouldn't be exposed and it would be a lower silhouette. I think there were some visibility and electronics problems at the time, but it would probably be feasible now. I am designing some armored vehicles just for the lolz on google sketchup and I am taking the unmanned turret approach, but I'm still using a horizontal auto-loader. If you can find more info on it I would love the read. I have a hard time finding definitive info on the CATTB, apparently a lot of the stuff they found out with it is still classified.

I thought it was interesting, i read somewhere that the rubber skirts on the treads actually reduced the radar cross section of the tank by reducing return from the wheels and suspension system.

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Postby L3 Communications » Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:49 pm

Satirius wrote:
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Then shouldn't you have tech almost exactly like NS, since NS is just like a universe where the Cold War never ended?

APS (both soft- and hard-kill), ETC 120/140mm guns, standoff anti-armour top-attack munitions (STAFF, TERM), integrated battle networks and FCS...

more like where WWII never ended


tbh.

huge amount of RHA, 105mm guns like they're going out of style, and ridiculously large calibre semi-automatic rifles proves this.

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TR-5 'Colossus'
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Type: Main Battle Tank
Manufacturer: Spiru Heavy Industrial Plant
Place Of Origin: The Nuclear Fist
Unit Cost: 11 million USD
Weight: 55.9 tonnes
Length: 11.2 m
Width: 3.8 m
Height: 2.4 m
Crew: 3(commander, driver and 1 gunner)
Armour: Rolled homogeneous armour, steel-encased Depleted Uranium plating, buckypaper mesh plating, Nano-crystalized carbon-steel
Primary Armament: 145mm ETC Rifled Autoloading Cannon w/ATGM, GLATM, HE-OR capabilities
Secondary Armament:
-1x 30mm autocannon firing DU rounds
-Remote Controlled Weapon Station
- .50 caliber Anti-Aircraft machine gun
Engine: 12-cyl. diesel/ethanol, 1,500 hp, nuclear turbine being experimented with
Transmission: two gear-boxes with side transmission in gear-box axes
Suspension: independent, with torsion bars, 6 hydraulic dampers, 6 road wheels and 3 return rollers per side
Operational Range: 510 mi
Ground Clearance: 438 mm
Speed: 55 mph
Steering System: Hydraulic
Side notes:
-JD-4 integrated laser rangefinder/warning/self-defense device
-"Quick Kill" active protection system
-The turret is fitted with two six-barreled smoke grenade launchers (USMC M1A1s use an eight-barreled version). These can create a thick smoke that blocks both vision and thermal imaging, and can also be armed with chaff. The engine is also equipped with a smoke generator that is triggered by the driver.
-Softkill/Hardkill Active protection system
-AN/VLQ-6 Missile Countermeasure Device
-Thermal/Infrared Imaging Standard
-Fuel cells protected by layered buckypaper mesh plating, Nano-crystalized carbon-steel
-Track skirts protected by reactive armour and Chobham
-Protection against spalling provided by heavy-kevlar liner
-In the chance that the TR-5 does suffer damage resulting in crew compartment fire, the tank is equipped with a halon fire-suppression system that automatically engages and extinguishes fires in seconds.
-Fuel and ammunition are in armored compartments with blowout panels to protect the crew from the risk of the tank's own ammunition cooking off if the tank is damaged.
-Fire Control Computer/JD-4 hybrid laser interface allows gunner to directly attack enemy weapon's optics and gunner, and when coupled allows data to be directly calculated via the infrared laser targeting systems of the JD-4. The resulting effect is that the JD-4 is able to fry missile circuitry, and blind enemy missile operators,
-Laser guidance systems(JD-4) allows pinpoint accuracy in the main gun, as well as tactical battlefield efficiency to be greatly increased at the elimination of data miscalculations due to the FCC/JD-4 hybrid systems. With the JD-4, the turret automatically aligns towards hostile laser emitters.
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The Nuclear Fist wrote:TR-5 'Colossus'
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Type: Main Battle Tank
Manufacturer: Spiru Heavy Industrial Plant
Place Of Origin: The Nuclear Fist
Unit Cost: 7 million USD
Weight: 55.9 tonnes
Length: 11.2 m
Width: 3.8 m
Height: 2.4 m
Crew: 4(commander, driver and 2 gunners)
Armour: Rolled homogeneous armour, steel-encased Depleted Uranium plating, buckypaper mesh plating, Nano-crystalized carbon-steel
Primary Armament: 150mm Rifled Autoloading Cannon w/ATGM, GLATM capabilities
Secondary Armament:
-1x autocannon firing 40x170mm DU rounds
-Remote Controlled Weapon Station
- .50 caliber Anti-Aircraft machine gun
Engine: 12-cyl. diesel/ethanol, 1,500 hp, nuclear turbine being experimented with
Transmission: two gear-boxes with side transmission in gear-box axes
Suspension: independent, with torsion bars, 6 hydraulic dampers, 6 road wheels and 3 return rollers per side
Operational Range: 510 mi
Ground Clearance: 438 mm
Speed: 55 mph
Steering System: Hydraulic
Side notes:
-JD-3 integrated laser rangefinder/warning/self-defense device
-"Quick Kill" active protection system
-The turret is fitted with two six-barreled smoke grenade launchers (USMC M1A1s use an eight-barreled version). These can create a thick smoke that blocks both vision and thermal imaging, and can also be armed with chaff. The engine is also equipped with a smoke generator that is triggered by the driver.
-Softkill/Hardkill Active protection system
-AN/VLQ-6 Missile Countermeasure Device
-Thermal/Infrared Imaging Standard
-Fuel cells protected by layered buckypaper mesh plating, Nano-crystalized carbon-steel
-Track skirts protected by reactive armour and Chobham
-Protection against spalling provided by heavy-kevlar liner
-In the chance that the TR-5 does suffer damage resulting in crew compartment fire, the tank is equipped with a halon fire-suppression system that automatically engages and extinguishes fires in seconds.
-Fuel and ammunition are in armored compartments with blowout panels to protect the crew from the risk of the tank's own ammunition cooking off if the tank is damaged.
-Fire Control Computer/JD-3 hybrid laser interface allows gunner to directly attack enemy weapon's optics and gunner, and when coupled allows data to be directly calculated via the infrared laser targeting systems of the JD-3.
-Laser guidance systems(JD-3) allows pinpoint accuracy in the main gun, as well as tactical battlefield efficiency to be greatly increased at the elimination of data miscalculations due to the FCC/JD-3 hybrid systems.
-Heating Standard

Way underpriced.
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Postby L3 Communications » Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:11 pm

The Nuclear Fist wrote:TR-5 'Colossus'
Image

Type: Main Battle Tank
Manufacturer: Spiru Heavy Industrial Plant
Place Of Origin: The Nuclear Fist
Unit Cost: 7 million USD
Weight: 55.9 tonnes
Length: 11.2 m
Width: 3.8 m
Height: 2.4 m
Crew: 4(commander, driver and 2 gunners)
Armour: Rolled homogeneous armour, steel-encased Depleted Uranium plating, buckypaper mesh plating, Nano-crystalized carbon-steel
Primary Armament: 150mm Rifled Autoloading Cannon w/ATGM, GLATM capabilities
Secondary Armament:
-1x autocannon firing 40x170mm DU rounds
-Remote Controlled Weapon Station
- .50 caliber Anti-Aircraft machine gun
Engine: 12-cyl. diesel/ethanol, 1,500 hp, nuclear turbine being experimented with
Transmission: two gear-boxes with side transmission in gear-box axes
Suspension: independent, with torsion bars, 6 hydraulic dampers, 6 road wheels and 3 return rollers per side
Operational Range: 510 mi
Ground Clearance: 438 mm
Speed: 55 mph
Steering System: Hydraulic
Side notes:
-JD-3 integrated laser rangefinder/warning/self-defense device
-"Quick Kill" active protection system
-The turret is fitted with two six-barreled smoke grenade launchers (USMC M1A1s use an eight-barreled version). These can create a thick smoke that blocks both vision and thermal imaging, and can also be armed with chaff. The engine is also equipped with a smoke generator that is triggered by the driver.
-Softkill/Hardkill Active protection system
-AN/VLQ-6 Missile Countermeasure Device
-Thermal/Infrared Imaging Standard
-Fuel cells protected by layered buckypaper mesh plating, Nano-crystalized carbon-steel
-Track skirts protected by reactive armour and Chobham
-Protection against spalling provided by heavy-kevlar liner
-In the chance that the TR-5 does suffer damage resulting in crew compartment fire, the tank is equipped with a halon fire-suppression system that automatically engages and extinguishes fires in seconds.
-Fuel and ammunition are in armored compartments with blowout panels to protect the crew from the risk of the tank's own ammunition cooking off if the tank is damaged.
-Fire Control Computer/JD-3 hybrid laser interface allows gunner to directly attack enemy weapon's optics and gunner, and when coupled allows data to be directly calculated via the infrared laser targeting systems of the JD-3.
-Laser guidance systems(JD-3) allows pinpoint accuracy in the main gun, as well as tactical battlefield efficiency to be greatly increased at the elimination of data miscalculations due to the FCC/JD-3 hybrid systems.
-Heating Standard


$15 million at least

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The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:TR-5 'Colossus'
Image

Type: Main Battle Tank
Manufacturer: Spiru Heavy Industrial Plant
Place Of Origin: The Nuclear Fist
Unit Cost: 14 million USD
Weight: 55.9 tonnes
Length: 11.2 m
Width: 3.8 m
Height: 2.4 m
Crew: 4(commander, driver and 2 gunners)
Armour: Rolled homogeneous armour, steel-encased Depleted Uranium plating, buckypaper mesh plating, Nano-crystalized carbon-steel
Primary Armament: 150mm Rifled Autoloading Cannon w/ATGM, GLATM capabilities
Secondary Armament:
-1x autocannon firing 40x170mm DU rounds
-Remote Controlled Weapon Station
- .50 caliber Anti-Aircraft machine gun
Engine: 12-cyl. diesel/ethanol, 1,500 hp, nuclear turbine being experimented with
Transmission: two gear-boxes with side transmission in gear-box axes
Suspension: independent, with torsion bars, 6 hydraulic dampers, 6 road wheels and 3 return rollers per side
Operational Range: 510 mi
Ground Clearance: 438 mm
Speed: 55 mph
Steering System: Hydraulic
Side notes:
-JD-3 integrated laser rangefinder/warning/self-defense device
-"Quick Kill" active protection system
-The turret is fitted with two six-barreled smoke grenade launchers (USMC M1A1s use an eight-barreled version). These can create a thick smoke that blocks both vision and thermal imaging, and can also be armed with chaff. The engine is also equipped with a smoke generator that is triggered by the driver.
-Softkill/Hardkill Active protection system
-AN/VLQ-6 Missile Countermeasure Device
-Thermal/Infrared Imaging Standard
-Fuel cells protected by layered buckypaper mesh plating, Nano-crystalized carbon-steel
-Track skirts protected by reactive armour and Chobham
-Protection against spalling provided by heavy-kevlar liner
-In the chance that the TR-5 does suffer damage resulting in crew compartment fire, the tank is equipped with a halon fire-suppression system that automatically engages and extinguishes fires in seconds.
-Fuel and ammunition are in armored compartments with blowout panels to protect the crew from the risk of the tank's own ammunition cooking off if the tank is damaged.
-Fire Control Computer/JD-3 hybrid laser interface allows gunner to directly attack enemy weapon's optics and gunner, and when coupled allows data to be directly calculated via the infrared laser targeting systems of the JD-3.
-Laser guidance systems(JD-3) allows pinpoint accuracy in the main gun, as well as tactical battlefield efficiency to be greatly increased at the elimination of data miscalculations due to the FCC/JD-3 hybrid systems.
-Heating Standard

Way underpriced.

Fixed, although the majority of the tech is just combination of some research I did. Hell, half of the stuff is on the Japanese Type 10 and the South Korean K2 Black Panther.
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