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Postby St George of England » Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:03 pm

I;m pretty sure we've established that dual turrets = bad...
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Postby Amerikians » Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:06 pm

St George of England wrote:I;m pretty sure we've established that dual turrets = bad...


Rule of Cool, England. Rule of Cool. -Rocks a Twin-Barreled M-60 designated the M-61. Note: Doesn't use it; built it for shits and giggles.-
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Postby Lubyak » Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:14 pm

St George of England wrote:I;m pretty sure we've established that dual turrets = bad...


I'm imagining the 2 cannoned thing to only be used in very very rare and very very specific situations. Yes, twin barreled turrets aren't great, but as was said: they LOOK awesome. And scary. That has got to mean something....

It's not like my country mass produces those as a main battle tank. They're a very rare unit, that spend half their time on parade, a quarter in maintenance, and a quarter actually on military exercises.

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Postby St George of England » Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:15 pm

Lubyak wrote:
St George of England wrote:I;m pretty sure we've established that dual turrets = bad...


I'm imagining the 2 cannoned thing to only be used in very very rare and very very specific situations. Yes, twin barreled turrets aren't great, but as was said: they LOOK awesome. And scary. That has got to mean something....

It's not like my country mass produces those as a main battle tank. They're a very rare unit, that spend half their time on parade, a quarter in maintenance, and a quarter actually on military exercises.

Ah, so there the tank equivalent of America's navy.
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Postby Amerikians » Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:16 pm

St George of England wrote:
Lubyak wrote:
I'm imagining the 2 cannoned thing to only be used in very very rare and very very specific situations. Yes, twin barreled turrets aren't great, but as was said: they LOOK awesome. And scary. That has got to mean something....

It's not like my country mass produces those as a main battle tank. They're a very rare unit, that spend half their time on parade, a quarter in maintenance, and a quarter actually on military exercises.

Ah, so there the tank equivalent of America's navy.


Sounds like it.
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Postby Indeos » Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:18 pm

Lubyak wrote:
St George of England wrote:I;m pretty sure we've established that dual turrets = bad...


I'm imagining the 2 cannoned thing to only be used in very very rare and very very specific situations. Yes, twin barreled turrets aren't great, but as was said: they LOOK awesome. And scary. That has got to mean something....

It's not like my country mass produces those as a main battle tank. They're a very rare unit, that spend half their time on parade, a quarter in maintenance, and a quarter actually on military exercises.


Really, dual barrels are only useful for artillery. And even then they probably wouldn't be that advantageous.
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Postby Amerikians » Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:20 pm

Indeos wrote:
Lubyak wrote:
I'm imagining the 2 cannoned thing to only be used in very very rare and very very specific situations. Yes, twin barreled turrets aren't great, but as was said: they LOOK awesome. And scary. That has got to mean something....

It's not like my country mass produces those as a main battle tank. They're a very rare unit, that spend half their time on parade, a quarter in maintenance, and a quarter actually on military exercises.


Really, dual barrels are only useful for artillery. And even then they probably wouldn't be that advantageous.


He just said they're more so show and sport. "We've got this; tremble." < P. much what he just said.
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Postby Lubyak » Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:22 pm

St George of England wrote:Ah, so there the tank equivalent of America's navy.


Pretty much. We look cool, and we'll kick ass in very specific situations, but other than that....ah well. :lol2:

Indeos wrote:Really, dual barrels are only useful for artillery. And even then they probably wouldn't be that advantageous.


But...but...dual barrels means I get my twin linked re roll to hit! (Sorry...couldn't resist the 40k joke :oops: )
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Postby Satirius » Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:28 pm

Indeos wrote:
Lubyak wrote:
I'm imagining the 2 cannoned thing to only be used in very very rare and very very specific situations. Yes, twin barreled turrets aren't great, but as was said: they LOOK awesome. And scary. That has got to mean something....

It's not like my country mass produces those as a main battle tank. They're a very rare unit, that spend half their time on parade, a quarter in maintenance, and a quarter actually on military exercises.


Really, dual barrels are only useful for artillery. And even then they probably wouldn't be that advantageous.

Russians did it

two 152mm for saturation fire or lolzy barrel life
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Postby Indeos » Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:49 pm

Satirius wrote:
Indeos wrote:
Really, dual barrels are only useful for artillery. And even then they probably wouldn't be that advantageous.

Russians did it

two 152mm for saturation fire or lolzy barrel life


That was what I was referring to. Actually, multi-barrel artillery would probably be pretty effective against some NS armies, like NN. Assuming you had them well-defended and such, of course.
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Postby Amerikians » Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:55 pm

Indeos wrote:
Satirius wrote:Russians did it

two 152mm for saturation fire or lolzy barrel life


That was what I was referring to. Actually, multi-barrel artillery would probably be pretty effective against some NS armies, like NN. Assuming you had them well-defended and such, of course.


Good thing I use that one from Korea; eh?

NN would be a waste though; as he pointed out to Greater Americania; he'll gladly trade a couple of infantry platoons for multi million dollar equipment and munitions expended on a single useless position.
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Postby Amerikians » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:00 pm

Depends on how broad; I don't generally saturate though. M-109 Paladin Howitzers bby. Oh and yes; the ugly bastard from Korea.
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Postby Bajireyn » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:01 pm

Crookfur wrote:
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the M113 would fail epicly as a tank i mean it cant even protect its self against 14.5 machine gun rounds how would it work as a tank ?


In certain circles your lack of faith in the mighty M113 "gavin" would lead to you being labeled as a "naracistic wheeled death trap loving F*cktard" who simply doesn't understand how much the marines are "SCREAMING FOR FIRE SUPPORT" and is in the pay of the evil airforce bureaucracy.

I bet you don't even like webpages with far too many pictures, long rambling sentences and "inspiring" midi tunes.

I short you need to do more reading, either search for M113 gavin on goggle and youtube and educate yourself on the glory of the mighty gavin or if you are actually sane read any of the threads on
tanknet that deal with an indvidual named Sparky or Mike Sparks.

I suspect i've confused you even more now....

you know mike sparks is considered a joke in most circles right?
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Postby L3 Communications » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:02 pm

Bajireyn wrote:
Crookfur wrote:
In certain circles your lack of faith in the mighty M113 "gavin" would lead to you being labeled as a "naracistic wheeled death trap loving F*cktard" who simply doesn't understand how much the marines are "SCREAMING FOR FIRE SUPPORT" and is in the pay of the evil airforce bureaucracy.

I bet you don't even like webpages with far too many pictures, long rambling sentences and "inspiring" midi tunes.

I short you need to do more reading, either search for M113 gavin on goggle and youtube and educate yourself on the glory of the mighty gavin or if you are actually sane read any of the threads on
tanknet that deal with an indvidual named Sparky or Mike Sparks.


I suspect i've confused you even more now....


you know mike sparks is considered a joke in most circles right?


No, of course he doesn't. I mean, just look at the way he was totally serious about Sparky in that post.

Totally serious.
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Postby Bajireyn » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:04 pm

Satirius wrote:
Bajireyn wrote:
the M113 would fail epicly as a tank i mean it cant even protect its self against 14.5 machine gun rounds how would it work as a tank ?

because it isn't a wheeled death trap-truck that won't cry out for fire support


you know the M113 is a piece of shit right? i mean its armor is fucking ALUMUINUM and cant stop any thing above 14.5
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Postby Amerikians » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:05 pm

Bajireyn wrote:
Satirius wrote:because it isn't a wheeled death trap-truck that won't cry out for fire support


you know the M113 is a piece of shit right? i mean its armor is fucking ALUMUINUM and cant stop any thing above 14.5


M551 Sheridan was aluminum; kicked ass in trials. Just had a tendency to flip over.
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Postby Holy Marsh » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:05 pm

Reminds me of when I named the HAT-1 the "Sparky". It was lolzy and I was confused.
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Postby Holy Marsh » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:06 pm

Bajireyn wrote:
Satirius wrote:because it isn't a wheeled death trap-truck that won't cry out for fire support


you know the M113 is a piece of shit right? i mean its armor is fucking ALUMUINUM and cant stop any thing above 14.5

These are Draftroom peoples who find it lolzy. They aren't serious and I think the sarcasm detector broke in Crook's post.
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Postby Bajireyn » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:07 pm

L3 Communications wrote:
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you know mike sparks is considered a joke in most circles right?


No, of course he doesn't. I mean, just look at the way he was totally serious about Sparky in that post.

Totally serious.


he was not serious?
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Postby L3 Communications » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:07 pm

Amerikians wrote:
Bajireyn wrote:
you know the M113 is a piece of shit right? i mean its armor is fucking ALUMUINUM and cant stop any thing above 14.5


M551 Sheridan was aluminum; kicked ass in trials. Just had a tendency to flip over.


M551 was an abysmal failure against any real tank. Not only due to it's short ass cannon, but it's exactly tendency to flip over, and to burn when hit.

M8 AGS would have been lots better.

Lots.

And that's not saying much.

Bajireyn wrote:
L3 Communications wrote:
No, of course he doesn't. I mean, just look at the way he was totally serious about Sparky in that post.

Totally serious.


he was not serious?


No, he was totally serious.
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Postby Amerikians » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:09 pm

L3 Communications wrote:
Amerikians wrote:
M551 Sheridan was aluminum; kicked ass in trials. Just had a tendency to flip over.


M551 was an abysmal failure against any real tank. Not only due to it's short ass cannon, but it's exactly tendency to flip over, and to burn when hit.

M8 AGS would have been lots better.

Lots.

And that's not saying much.


I didn't say it wasn't a failure in actual battle conditions. ;D It's not like I'm promoting the use of the most useless thing ever invented. OR AM I?
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Postby L3 Communications » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:11 pm

Amerikians wrote:
L3 Communications wrote:
M551 was an abysmal failure against any real tank. Not only due to it's short ass cannon, but it's exactly tendency to flip over, and to burn when hit.

M8 AGS would have been lots better.

Lots.

And that's not saying much.


I didn't say it wasn't a failure in actual battle conditions. ;D It's not like I'm promoting the use of the most useless thing ever invented. OR AM I?


This is all that matters.

Trials mean dick.
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Postby Crookfur » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:12 pm

Bajireyn wrote:
L3 Communications wrote:
No, of course he doesn't. I mean, just look at the way he was totally serious about Sparky in that post.

Totally serious.


he was not serious?


Hey i'm Crookfur I'm Always serious All the time!


Next thing you know you'll be claiming that the detachable biplane modification for the mighty gavin isn't the greatest idea ever and isn't entirely well thought...





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Postby Amerikians » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:12 pm

L3 Communications wrote:
Amerikians wrote:
I didn't say it wasn't a failure in actual battle conditions. ;D It's not like I'm promoting the use of the most useless thing ever invented. OR AM I?


This is all that matters.

Trials mean dick.


B-but. Trials are everything! ;~; -Sarcasm.-

I know.
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Postby Bajireyn » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:15 pm

this is not related to any of my post above but which would be a better IFV/APC for my airborne calvary
the stryker or the M113 or some other vehicle?
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