Your Nation's Main Battle Tank (No Mechs) [Part 1]

[Banjamos]

T-90 has a 125mm gun, and that sounds like godmodding. |:

MCA-7E has tons of armour, and can probably defeat fire from its own main gun along the front. Granted the sheer volume of fire probably should have lead to lucky kills.

Yeah, considering it was about half a division...

Awwww, I knew I was wrong on the caliber of the T-90, but anyways...

Well, he made up for the godmodding-esque stuff. He lost most of his MCAs to my Cruise missiles IIRC those things cost a fortune to buy or make, and losing 500 is quite a blow.

Mind you, this is also somebody who uses an R2 in MT. (For those of you who do, it's officially a late MT/PMT weapon.)

I don't really like the MCA, since it's really expensive, overused, and quite cheap. I also can't be driving the monstrosity through the streets of my capital or any other city, which happens sometimes. I need those roads too. I also have some mountainous terrain and some lolmuddy areas.
Yeah, the MCA-7's not for me.

EDIT: 86 tons ain't exactly a great idea on a street, or anything else for that matter.

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

MCA-7E has tons of armour, and can probably defeat fire from its own main gun along the front. Granted the sheer volume of fire probably should have lead to lucky kills.

Yeah, considering it was about half a division...

Awwww, I knew I was wrong on the caliber of the T-90, but anyways...

Well, he made up for the godmodding-esque stuff. He lost most of his MCAs to my Cruise missiles IIRC those things cost a fortune to buy or make, and losing 500 is quite a blow.

Mind you, this is also somebody who uses an R2 in MT. (For those of you who do, it's officially a late MT/PMT weapon.)

I don't really like the MCA, since it's really expensive, overused, and quite cheap. I also can't be driving the monstrosity through the streets of my capital or any other city, which happens sometimes. I need those roads too. I also have some mountainous terrain and some lolmuddy areas.
Yeah, the MCA-7's not for me.

EDIT: 86 tons ain't exactly a great idea on a street, or anything else for that matter.

In NS MT is very subjective. If you are capable of fielding MCA-7Es, and the advanced stealth fighters in NS, you can probably field the R2. It isn't really PMT, most of the technologies it uses exists in some form, and with the warlike nature of NS, it isn't impossible to fathom someone spending billions developing the technologies it uses to make it more feasible.

[Imperial Valais]

The Fortress-Class Steam Tank

[The Nuclear Fist]

Name: T-89R 'Walrus'
Weight: 45.4 tonnes
Length 12.1 m
Width 3.9 m
Height 3.2 m
Crew: 3(commander, driver and gunner)

Armor: Steel-Encased Depleted Uranium encased in Rolled homogeneous armour and Chabham; mild mesh netting
Primary Armament: 155 mm smoothbore
Secondary Armament: Remote Controlled Weapon Station, .35 cal Autocannon
Engine: multi-fuel turbine engine, protypical nuclear turbine being toyed with.
Transmission: two gear-boxes with side transmission in gear-box axes
Suspension: independent, with torsion bars, 6 hydraulic dampers, 6 road wheels and 3 return rollers per side
Ground clearance 430 mm
Operational range: 750 km
Speed 89 km/h
Steering: system hydraulic
Other information:
-Gunner's Thermal Imaging Site
-NSVT-12.7 Remotely Controlled AA Machinegun Mount(on certain models)
-ARENA active defense system
-Commander's therman imaging site
-Air conditioning/heating standard

[The Nuclear Fist]

The Fortress-Class Steam Tank

Is..that..a..unicorn head? Lame.

[Imperial Valais]

Is..that..a..unicorn head? Lame.

Somehow, I doubt that when your soldiers see a battle line of 80-ton steam-powered tanks barrelling down on them with all guns blazing and fiery smoke billowing from the 'stacks, they will be thinking how "lame" the unicorn head is.

[Imperial Valais]

Somehow, I doubt that when your soldiers see a battle line of 80-ton steam-powered tanks barrelling down on them with all guns blazing and fiery smoke billowing from the 'stacks, they will be thinking how "lame" the unicorn head is.

No, they'll be laughing at how thin the armor is and how huge an IR target it is.

Who said anything about thin armor, now? It's a huge target period, like most tanks.

[Ramsetia]

The Fortress-Class Steam Tank

Nice AT PT tank.

Colour it up in brass and copper and bronze, and you have yourself a steampunk-worthy contraption.

[Imperial Valais]

Who said anything about thin armor, now? It's a huge target period, like most tanks.

But unlike most tanks, it has no angled armor and some areas aren't even covered, note tread sides.

What do you call the armor at the front (under the ram) and on the turret? Isn't that angled?

Oh, and yeah. All I can say is that I didn't draw the picture.

[Senestrum]

Because they think having a giant ass tank with huge super thick armour will compensate for their lack of ability.

Right, or did they choose it based on their nation's terrain and armoured doctrine? I chose the LY7 as my principal tank due to it's modularity, and because my nation is likely to operate in all sorts of terrain from jungles to desert to plains. Given that my sovereign territory is a group of three islands barely averaging 25 km in length, I really can't claim it for being used in home defence since almost all that would be urban (thus BMPT). I also can't really be toting around a giant ass lolheavy tank that only functions properly on lolflat plains like Europe and Saharan Africa.



Sumer said somewhere that his MCA-7 doesn't have as much armour as he stated, and he needs to redo the RHAe figures.

Still, it probably has enough to defeat APFSDS from a regular 125mm gun, it weighs 86 tons and is designed for tank on tank combat.

Honestly, the Abrams can probably bounce most, if not all, RL 125mm APFSDS rounds. The MCA-7, which can be thought of as a tank with a Falcon Turret with thirty tons of armor...

[L3 Communications]

Still, it probably has enough to defeat APFSDS from a regular 125mm gun, it weighs 86 tons and is designed for tank on tank combat.

Honestly, the Abrams can probably bounce most, if not all, RL 125mm APFSDS rounds. The MCA-7, which can be thought of as a tank with a Falcon Turret with thirty tons of armor...

I'd still think the crew would at least be rattled around quite a bit, maybe damage to a few systems that would've taken a nasty smacking about in the turret and hull. I mean, really, most tanks are killed by damage to components such as treads, engines, the main gun, and computer systems. With that much firepower hitting those tanks (4000 tanks wtf that's like literally 10 divisions), you'd really think that there would be more damage to things like fire control, the autoloader, and even the crewmembers themselves.

And does the AT-11 or LAHAT have a top-attack feature?

[Dostanuot Loj]

MCA-7E can easily take anything the T-90 can throw at it to the side or front, even at point blank range.

Hell, it's intended to take anything it's own (Or any other for that matter) 140mm gun can throw at it from 500m.

I also lulz at people who use the MCA-7 anywhere but where it was meant to be used, or for any roles but what it was meant to be used. Total lulz. It's meant to be mobile, in open terrain, and to be focused on killing heavy armour. Total waste of money to dig it in.

[Bajireyn]

It's a mine-clearing flail ffs

Seriously this bayonet fad is really unfunny now

Bayonet fad needs moar bayonet.
*runs away quickly*

the colony of new bajireyn uses the LY7 we also have reserve stocks of the M7A2.

I like the tank, doesn't Lyras make it?

yes lyras makes the LY7

[Satirius]

Honestly, the Abrams can probably bounce most, if not all, RL 125mm APFSDS rounds. The MCA-7, which can be thought of as a tank with a Falcon Turret with thirty tons of armor...

I'd still think the crew would at least be rattled around quite a bit, maybe damage to a few systems that would've taken a nasty smacking about in the turret and hull. I mean, really, most tanks are killed by damage to components such as treads, engines, the main gun, and computer systems. With that much firepower hitting those tanks (4000 tanks wtf that's like literally 10 divisions), you'd really think that there would be more damage to things like fire control, the autoloader, and even the crewmembers themselves.

And does the AT-11 or LAHAT have a top-attack feature?

LAHAT is a top-attack iirc, has a direct-attack mode for use as a SAM.

idk about Svir/Refleks

[Vault 1]

I also lulz at people who use the MCA-7 anywhere but where it was meant to be used, or for any roles but what it was meant to be used.

While at that, do you think one could "fix" it somewhat? Like my tank tuning idea, if I could say cut... probably not 10, but a few tons.

[United States of PA]

Sumer actually has a version of the MCA-7 that only weighs in at like, 60-65 tonnes, the 7H, the only difference though being in its Turret Armor and Armored Skirts.

[The Nuclear Fist]

Is..that..a..unicorn head? Lame.

Somehow, I doubt that when your soldiers see a battle line of 80-ton steam-powered tanks barrelling down on them with all guns blazing and fiery smoke billowing from the 'stacks, they will be thinking how "lame" the unicorn head is.

No, they'll be laughing their asses off while your puny line of steam tanks is bulldozed by their anti-tank weapons and well...they're tanks.

[Indeos]

Somehow, I doubt that when your soldiers see a battle line of 80-ton steam-powered tanks barrelling down on them with all guns blazing and fiery smoke billowing from the 'stacks, they will be thinking how "lame" the unicorn head is.

No, they'll be laughing their asses off while your puny line of steam tanks is bulldozed by their anti-tank weapons and well...they're tanks.

If he RPs AT, then that wouldn't really happen, and that tank would probably be an effective weapon.

[The Nuclear Fist]

No, they'll be laughing their asses off while your puny line of steam tanks is bulldozed by their anti-tank weapons and well...they're tanks.

If he RPs AT, then that wouldn't really happen, and that tank would probably be an effective weapon.

What is AT? Also, a steam powered tank shaped like a box with no angled armour would not fair well in modern combat.

[Indeos]

What is AT? Also, a steam powered tank shaped like a box with no angled armour would not fair well in modern combat.

Alternate Tech/times and he's right if it's AT PT.

You don't need AT and PT, it's just AT.

[The Nuclear Fist]

Alternate Tech/times and he's right if it's AT PT.

You don't need AT and PT, it's just AT.

Oh...kay them. Still is just a big piece of shit though.

[East germanias]

[Indeos]

You don't need AT and PT, it's just AT.

Yeah but techinically can't you be Alternate tech/times but still be MT?

You can, but the actual year doesn't matter. Alternate generally refers to alternate history, in which case it doesn't matter if it's 2010, it can be steam-powered.

[The Nuclear Fist]

It has no guns.

[East germanias]

It has no guns.

yes it does activate it first.