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Postby Old Tyrannia » Sun Oct 03, 2010 1:06 am

New bajireyn wrote:fail tank is fail

Sorry, I only take criticism from people who know how to use full stops and capitals.
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Postby Senestrum » Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:48 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:
New bajireyn wrote:fail tank is fail

Sorry, I only take criticism from people who know how to use full stops and capitals.

How about:

Your extremely high tank has poor armor, no suspension, pathetic ground clearance, an extraordinarily ill-conceived armament, and is fugly to boot!

That better?
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Postby Anemos Major » Sun Oct 03, 2010 4:01 am

Senestrum wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:Sorry, I only take criticism from people who know how to use full stops and capitals.

How about:

Your extremely high tank has poor armor, no suspension, pathetic ground clearance, an extraordinarily ill-conceived armament, and is fugly to boot!

That better?


Your tank is the physical manifestation of failing life.

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Postby Banjamos » Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:29 pm

Anemos Major wrote:
Senestrum wrote:How about:

Your extremely high tank has poor armor, no suspension, pathetic ground clearance, an extraordinarily ill-conceived armament, and is fugly to boot!

That better?


Your tank is the physical manifestation of failing life.

Just use that.
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Postby Chernobyl-Pripyat » Mon Oct 04, 2010 12:51 am

Missourian Rebels wrote:
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nuff said


Wouldn't even need to waste tank shells, BMP would tear that apart...

Not to mention, it doesn't appear to have any room for ammunition or a crew or be able to hit moving targets stationary or not.

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Postby Mikedor » Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:55 am

Missourian Rebels wrote:Image
nuff said

Eh, an IFV could take that out, probably.
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Postby United NW Canada » Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:11 am

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A steel Predator from the frozen North to rend you enemies with its lethal “claws” day or night, good weather or bad, the Snow Leopard C2A7 will annihilate its prey!

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Snow Leopard C-2A7

Unit cost
US $5,500,000

Specifications
Weight 62.3 tonnes
Length 9.97 m (393 in) (gun forward)
Width 3.75 m (148 in)
Height 3.0 m (120 in)
Crew 4

Armor 3rd Generation composite; including high-hardness steel, tungsten and plastic filler with ceramic component.

Primary armament 1 x 120 mm Rheinmetall L55, capable of firing LAHAT ATGM and STAM rounds
42 rounds (mix of conventional, STAM, and LAHAT ATGW)

Secondary armament 1x 12.7mm heavy machine gun in a Protector Remote weapon station
1x 12.7mm heavy machine gun coaxial mount
1x 7.62mm machine gun on loaders hatch"
4,750 rounds of 12.7mm
4,750 rounds of 7.62mm

Engine MTU MB 873 Ka-501 liquid-cooled V-12 Twin-turbo diesel engine
1,500 PS (1,479 hp, 1,103 kW) at 2600 rpm
Power/weight 24.1 PS/t (17.7 kW/t)
Transmission Renk HSWL 354
Suspension Torsion-bar suspension

Fuel capacity 1,200 liters
Operational range 550 km (340 mi) (internal fuel)
Speed 72 km/h (45 mph)



Design

Protection

The Snow Leopard C2A7 utilizes spaced, multi-layered composite armor throughout the design. The Snow Leopard C2A7A5 and A6 models utilize additional armor added to the turret front, and on hull and side skirts. Estimated levels of protection for the Snow Leopard C2A7 range from 920 - 940 RHAe on the turret, 620 RHAe on the glacis and lower front hull on the Snow Leopard C2A7A6 against kinetic projectiles. The mine-protected Snow Leopard C2A7A6M adds an additional mine protection plate for the belly, which increases protection against mines and improvised explosive devices. All Snow Leopard C2A7 variants include spall liners on the inside of the tank, protecting the crew. The Snow Leopard C2A7 has increased protection against rocket-propelled grenades (RPG's) by the use of add-on modular slat armor which serves to prematurely detonate such warheads harmlessly against the hull. The most sensitive areas of a tank, its optics, exhaust ports and ventilators, are all protected by a newly-developed high-strength metal mesh, to prevent the possibility of explosives charges being planted there.

The Snow Leopard C2A7 also makes use of the Arena Active Protection System
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arena_active_protection_system

Two groups of 6 Wegmann 76 mm smoke (WP/RP) mortars are mounted on either side of the turret and can be electrically fired either as single rounds or in salvos of four are mounted on most Snow Leopard C2A7 models. These also prove very effective against approaching infantry.

The crew is also protected against Nuclear, Biological and Chemical (NBC) threats as well, as the Snow Leopard C2A7 is equipped with a NBC over pressurization system which provides up to 4 mbar (0.004 kp/cm²) over pressure inside the vehicle.

The Snow Leopard C2A7 is equipped with a fire protection system as well. Four 9 kg Halon fire extinguisher bottles are installed on the right behind the driver's station. The bottles are connected to pipes and hoses and are activated automatically by the fire detection system, when temperatures rise above 180°F inside the fighting compartment, or manually via a control panel in the driver's compartment. An extra 2.5 kg Halon fire extinguisher is also stored on the floor beneath the main gun.

Armament
Primary Armament

The primary armament for production versions of the Snow Leopard C2A7 is the Rheinmetall 120 mm L55 smoothbore gun. 27 rounds of the main gun ammunition are stored in a special magazine in the forward section of the hull, to the left of the driver's station, with an additional 15 rounds stored in the left side of the turret bustle, and separated from the fighting compartment by an electrically operated door. If the ammunition storage area is hit, blow-off panels in the turret roof would direct any explosion upwards away from the crew compartment.

The gun is fully stabilized, and can fire a variety of types of rounds, such as the German DM-33 APFSDS-T anti-tank round, which is said to be able to penetrate 560 millimeters (22 in) of steel armor at a range of 2,000 meters (2,200 yd), and the German DM12 multipurpose anti-tank projectile (MPAT).[10] For the L55 gun, a newer APFSDS-T round was introduced to take advantage of the longer barrel, the DM-53. The bore evacuator and the gun's thermal sleeve, designed to regulate the temperature of the barrel, are fabricated out of glass-reinforced plastic, while the barrel has a chrome lining to increase barrel life. The main gun is capable of power elevating from +20° to -9°.

The main gun is also capable of firing a variety of high tech specialty rounds:
1. LAHAT ATGM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAHAT

2. STAM (Smart Top-Attack Munition) is a top-attack anti-tank munition designed specifically for use with the Black Panther. This projectile is fired in a high trajectory profile comparable to that of a mortar or that of long-range artillery. It should be emphasized that this is not an anti-tank missile—it does not contain any rocket propellant or motors, and travels through the air solely with the kinetic energy applied to it during the initial propulsion from the main cannon. The STAM round does, however, house internal guidance and obstacle-avoidance systems, in the form of a small millimeter band radar, IR and radiometer sensors. Should the need arise; it also has a limited ability to be manually controlled via live data link with the launch vehicle. Upon reaching its designated target area, a parachute deploys, giving the onboard radar system and sensors enough time to seek and acquire stationary or moving targets and fire its explosively formed penetrator from a top-down position, offering excellent anti-tank capabilities due to less protection present at top armor of turrets and hulls of tanks. Due to the fire-and-forget nature of these rounds, the launch vehicle can remain concealed behind cover while firing successive rounds towards the known location of an enemy. It can also provide effective indirect fire support against targets hidden behind obstacles and structures. The minimum range of the munition is 2 km, while the maximum range is 8 km.


Secondary Armament
The Snow Leopard C2A7 is equipped with 3 machine guns, one 12.7mm mounted co-axially, one 12.7mm in a Protector Remote weapon station on the top of the turret, and a 7.62mm machine gun on the loader hatch. 4750 rounds of 12.7mm machine gun ammunition and 4750 rounds of 7.62mm machine gun ammunition are carried onboard the Snow Leopard C2A7.

Fire Control
The standard fire control system found on the Snow Leopard C2A7 is the German EMES 15 fire control system. dual magnification stabilized primary sight. The primary sight has an integrated Neodinium Yttrium Aluminium Garnet (Nd:YAG) solid state laser rangefinder and a 120 element cadmium mercury telluride, CdHgTe (also known as CMT) Zeiss thermal sight which are both linked to the tank's fire control computer. A backup 8x auxiliary telescope FERO-Z18 is mounted coaxially for the gunner.[6] The commander has a independent periscope, the Rheinmetall/Zeiss PERI-R 17 A2. The PERI-R 17 A2 is a stabilized panoramic periscope sight designed for day / night observation and target identification, and it provides an all round view with a traverse of 360°. The thermal image from the commander's periscope is displayed on a monitor inside the tank. Initial production tanks were not equipped with a thermal sight, due to the sight being not ready, and instead temporarily substituted the PZB 200 low light TV system (LLLTV).

The fire control suite is capable of providing up to three range values in four seconds. The range data is transmitted to the fire control computer and is used to calculate the firing solution. Also, because the laser rangefinder is integrated into the gunner's primary sight, the gunner is able to read the digital range measurement directly. The maximum range of the laser rangefinder is less than 10,000m with accuracy to within 20m.

Propulsion
The Snow Leopard C2A7 is propelled by the MTU MB 873 diesel engine, which provides 1,100 kW (1,500 hp). The MTU MB 873 diesel engine is a four-stroke, 47.6 litre, 12-cylinder multi-fuel, exhaust turbo-charged, liquid-cooled engine. The engine is a multi-fueled design, has a fuel consumption that is estimated at around 300 litres per 100 km on roads and 500 litres per 100 km across country, and is coupled to the Renk HSWL 354 gear and brake system. The Renk HSWL 354 transmission has 4 forward, 2 reverse gears with a torque converter and is completely automatic, with the driver selecting the range. The Snow Leopard C2A7 has 4 fuel tanks, which have a total capacity of approximately 1,160 litres, giving a maximum road range of about 500 km. Together, the propulsion pack is capable of driving the Snow Leopard C2A7 to a top road speed of 68 km/h (which is limited to 50 km/h during peacetime), and top reverse is 31 km/h.[6] The power pack can be changed in the field in 15 minutes. The engine and transmission is separated from the crew compartment through a fireproof bulkhead. An enhanced version of the EuroPowerPack, with a 1,210 kW (1,650 hp) MTU MT883 engine has also been trialled by the Snow Leopard C2A7,

The Snow Leopard C2A7 has a torsion bar suspension, and has advanced friction dampers. The running gear consists of seven dual rubber-tyred road wheels and four return rollers per side, with the idler wheel at the front and drive sprocket at the rear. The tracks are Diehl 570F tracks, with rubber-bashed end connectors, which have removable rubber pads and use 82 links on each track. For use in icy ground, up to 18 rubber pads can be replaced by the same number of grousers, which are stored in the vehicle's bow when not in use. The upper part of the tracks are covered with side skirts, with the first two road wheels and idler covered by an armored skirt.

The Snow Leopard C2A7 can drive through water 4 meters (13 ft) deep using a snorkel or 1.2 meters (3 ft 11 in) without any preparation and climb vertical obstacles over one metre high.

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Postby SHADOW Corporation » Mon Oct 04, 2010 6:23 am

Missourian Rebels wrote:Image
nuff said

Photoshop Fail... Just look at the sideguns shopped straight from a WW1 British Tank.

@United NW Canada: Impressive, very impressive indeed. The level of detail is that of a much higher caliber then what can be normally excepted here (or atleast in this thread anyway). I'll gladely give a more in depth review later today (I'm a little busy currently).
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Postby Missourian Rebels » Mon Oct 04, 2010 8:08 am

I use the M1A6 upgrade of the Abrams, which is my own Nation's upgrade of it, which gives it even BETTER armor, and Fits it with the capacity to be TRULY All Terrain (like it is Semi-Amphibious with this upgrade, it can go up on snow-capped mountains better, etc. etc.)

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Postby Anemos Major » Mon Oct 04, 2010 8:12 am

Missourian Rebels wrote:I use the M1A6 upgrade of the Abrams, which is my own Nation's upgrade of it, which gives it even BETTER armor, and Fits it with the capacity to be TRULY All Terrain (like it is Semi-Amphibious with this upgrade, it can go up on snow-capped mountains better, etc. etc.)


Wow, you added 4 As. It must be like 4 times better.

If you want help choosing a more original tank, do inform me.
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Postby Crookfur » Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:27 am

SHADOW Corporation wrote:
@United NW Canada: Impressive, very impressive indeed. The level of detail is that of a much higher caliber then what can be normally excepted here (or atleast in this thread anyway). I'll gladely give a more in depth review later today (I'm a little busy currently).


Dude its just blatant copy pasta from the wiki article on the leopard 2 with a little bit from the K2
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Postby Crookfur » Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:32 am

Missourian Rebels wrote:Image
nuff said


needz moar gunz!
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:33 am

Senestrum wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:Sorry, I only take criticism from people who know how to use full stops and capitals.

How about:

Your extremely high tank has poor armor, no suspension, pathetic ground clearance, an extraordinarily ill-conceived armament, and is fugly to boot!

That better?

How about:
I don't know much about tanks and I'd be very grateful if someone had helped me with the design (which is copied from another resource) without trying to troll me. Has it ever occured to you that I might be more receptive to criticism if you were nice about it?
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Postby Anemos Major » Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:49 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:How about:
I don't know much about tanks and I'd be very grateful if someone had helped me with the design (which is copied from another resource) without trying to troll me. Has it ever occured to you that I might be more receptive to criticism if you were nice about it?


The problem is that I like the Lehman Ruski.

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Postby Fayrouz » Mon Oct 04, 2010 11:40 am

Our Armed Forces main Battle Tank is T64
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Specifications (T-64A[1])
Weight 38 tonnes (42 ST; 37 LT)
Length 9.225 m (30 ft 3.2 in) (gun forward)
Width 3.415 m (11 ft 2.4 in)
Height 2.172 m (7 ft 1.5 in)
Crew 3
Armour 20–450 mm (0.79–18 in) of Glass-reinforced plastic sandwiched between layers of steel.
ERA plates optional
Primary
armament D-81T 125 mm smoothbore gun
Secondary
armament 7.62 mm PKMT coax machine gun, 12.7 mm NSVT antiaircraft machine gun
Engine 5DTF 5-cyl. diesel
700 hp (522kw)
Power/weight 18.4 hp/tonne (13.7 kw/ton)
Suspension Torsion bar
Operational
range 500 km (310 mi), 700 km (430 mi) with external tanks
Speed 60.5 km/h (37.6 mph) (road)


Our Armed Forces also uses the M1 Abrams
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Specifications
Weight 67.6 short tons (61.3 t; 60.4 long tons)
Length Gun forward: 32.04 ft (9.77 m)[4]
Hull length: 26.02 ft (7.93 m)
Width 12 ft (3.66 m)
Height 8 ft (2.44 m)
Crew 4 (commander, gunner, loader, driver)
Armor Chobham, RH armor, steel encased depleted uranium mesh plating
Primary
armament 105 mm L52 M68 rifled cannon (M1)
120 mm L44 M256 smoothbore cannon (M1A1, M1A2, M1A2SEP)
Secondary
armament 1 x .50-caliber (12.7 mm) M2HB heavy machine gun
2 x 7.62 mm (.308) M240 machine guns (1 pintle-mounted, 1 coaxial)
Engine Honeywell AGT1500C multi-fuel turbine engine
1,500 shp (1,120 kW)
Power/weight 24.5 hp/metric ton
Transmission Allison DDA X-1100-3B
Suspension Torsion bar
Ground clearance 0.48 m (1 ft 7 in) (M1, M1A1)
0.43 m (1 ft 5 in) (M1A2)
Fuel capacity 500 US gallons (1,900 l; 420 imp gal)
Operational
range 289 mi (465.29 km)[5]
With NBC system: 279 mi (449.19 km)
Speed Road: 42 mph (67.6 km/h)
Off-road: 30 mph (48.3 km/h)

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Postby Old Tyrannia » Mon Oct 04, 2010 11:45 am

Anemos Major wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:How about:
I don't know much about tanks and I'd be very grateful if someone had helped me with the design (which is copied from another resource) without trying to troll me. Has it ever occured to you that I might be more receptive to criticism if you were nice about it?


The problem is that I like the Lehman Ruski.

So do I. That's why I decided to use the image to represent the so-called 'Exterminator' tank, rather than a real life tank or some bastardized drawing of it.
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Postby Lizardiar » Mon Oct 04, 2010 12:57 pm

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Anemos Major wrote:
The problem is that I like the Lehman Ruski.

So do I. That's why I decided to use the image to represent the so-called 'Exterminator' tank, rather than a real life tank or some bastardized drawing of it.

What? No love for the Baneblade? :p
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Mon Oct 04, 2010 1:03 pm

Lizardiar wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:So do I. That's why I decided to use the image to represent the so-called 'Exterminator' tank, rather than a real life tank or some bastardized drawing of it.

What? No love for the Baneblade? :p

Sure, my FT nation uses Baneblades as their STANDARD tanks. :p
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Postby Lizardiar » Mon Oct 04, 2010 1:47 pm

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Lizardiar wrote:What? No love for the Baneblade? :p

Sure, my FT nation uses Baneblades as their STANDARD tanks. :p

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Shadowsword
Perhaps now we shut up those that use titans? :lol:
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Postby New bajireyn » Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:20 pm

the colony of new bajireyn uses the LY7 we also have reserve stocks of the M7A2.


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Postby Bajireyn » Mon Oct 04, 2010 5:09 pm

bajireyns main tanks are...
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the M7A2 Ka'ryat MBT
stats:
weight:62 tons
length:28.04 feet
width:12 feet
height:8.5 feet
crew:3[commander gunner and driver]
armor:chobtam, RH,steel encased uranium depleted mesh armor.
primary armament;M-798 rifled 120MM ETC gun
secondary armament:25 mm coaxial auto-cannon M2 50 cal machine gun 1M-762 MG 1 MK-19 40mm grenade launcher
4X javelin missile launchers
engine:1 bajireyn land systems PS-765 diesel-electric engine
suspension:torsion bar
speed:
road:45 MPH
off-road 34 MPH

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^M1202 scorpion light tank
stats:
weight:40 tons
length:34 feet
width: 9 feet
crew:3
armor:chobtam, ERA and slat armor
primary armament: M-115 105mm rifled ETC cannon
secondary armament 50 caliber coaxial MG, M240 MG and two javelin missile launchers
engine:1 bajireyn land systems PS-567 diesel-electric engine
suspension: torsion bar
speed:
off road:40 miles per hour
road: 46 miles per hour


M10A1 heavy tank
weight:70 tons
length:29 feet
width:4 feet
height:9 feet
crew:3[commander gunner and driver]
armor:chobtam, RH,steel encased uranium depleted mesh armor.
primary armament;M-801 rifled 135MM ETC gun
secondary armament:25 mm coaxial auto-cannon M2 50 cal machine gun 1M-762 MG 1 MK-19 40mm grenade launcher 4X javelin missile launchers
engine:1 bajireyn land systems PT-274 turbine engine
suspension:torsion bar
speed:
road:34 MPH
off-road 21 MPH


M12 expeditionary tank
weight:40 tons
length:33 feet
width:9 feet
crew:2
armor:chobtam, ERA and slat armor
primary armament:M-798 rifled 120MM ETC gun
secondary armament:25 MM auto-cannon 1 M240s 1 MK-19 2 javlin missile launchers
suspension: torsion bar
speed:
off road:40 miles per hour
road: 46 miles per hour


constructive criticism is welcome.
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Postby The Corparation » Mon Oct 04, 2010 7:28 pm

Crookfur wrote:
Missourian Rebels wrote:Image
nuff said


needz moar gunz!

and a Bayonet.
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Postby Satirius » Mon Oct 04, 2010 7:58 pm

The Corparation wrote:
Crookfur wrote:
needz moar gunz!

and a Bayonet.

No.
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Postby The Corparation » Tue Oct 05, 2010 5:59 pm

Satirius wrote:
The Corparation wrote:and a Bayonet.

No.

Fine one of these then:Image If I can't stab my opponent I can at least lacerate them.
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