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Postby Narcidia » Wed Sep 29, 2010 1:45 pm

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Behold the Mark VI Imperial Tiger


Designation: Mk VI - Emperor Tiger - Kaiser Tiger
Armor: 9-12 Inches of 3rd Generation composite; including high-hardness steel, tungsten and plastic filler with ceramic components.
Primary Armament: 1 x 120mm Rifled Main Gun
Secondary Armament: 2× 7.92 mm Maschinengewehr 42
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Ground Clearance: 500mm - 1ft 8in
Fuel Capacity: 1,200 liters
Operational Range: 550 km (340 mi) (internal fuel)
Speed: 72 km/h (45 mph)


No comments for my beautiful modernized King Tiger?
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Postby Chernobyl-Pripyat » Wed Sep 29, 2010 1:51 pm

Narcidia wrote:No comments for my beautiful modernized King Tiger?


Ditch the bow MG, add some ERA or NxRA and it'd be alright. I'd recommend changing the roadwheel and tracks, that design IIRC easily got jammed up with debris.

EDIT: Also, does it have a proper FCS?
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Postby Minnysota » Wed Sep 29, 2010 1:52 pm

Satirius wrote:hey guys im a new nation my mbt is the m1a2 mbt with tusk or tank. Urban. Survival, kit.
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picture taken during wartime operations

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Postby Narcidia » Wed Sep 29, 2010 1:53 pm

Chernobyl-Pripyat wrote:
Narcidia wrote:No comments for my beautiful modernized King Tiger?


Ditch the bow MG, add some ERA or NxRA and it'd be alright. I'd recommend changing the roadwheel and tracks, that design IIRC easily got jammed up with debris.

EDIT: Also, does it have a proper FCS?


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Postby St George of England » Wed Sep 29, 2010 1:54 pm

Minnysota wrote:
Satirius wrote:hey guys im a new nation my mbt is the m1a2 mbt with tusk or tank. Urban. Survival, kit.
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picture taken during wartime operations

hurpty durp


:clap: such an honest sterotype :p I'm glad I got out of the M1A2(3) phase lol.

so glad i took the time to research tanks. then again, i originally tried to use the FCS tank...
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Postby The Corparation » Wed Sep 29, 2010 1:55 pm

Narcidia wrote:
Chernobyl-Pripyat wrote:
Ditch the bow MG, add some ERA or NxRA and it'd be alright. I'd recommend changing the roadwheel and tracks, that design IIRC easily got jammed up with debris.

EDIT: Also, does it have a proper FCS?


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ERA=Explosive Reactive Armor.
NxRA= I think is non-explosive reactive armor
IIRC=No idea
FCS=No clue
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Postby L3 Communications » Wed Sep 29, 2010 1:56 pm

The Corparation wrote:
Narcidia wrote:
Chernobyl. I do not speak military abbreviation.

MG-machine gun
ERA=Explosive Reactive Armor.
NxRA= I think is non-explosive reactive armor
IIRC=No idea
FCS=No clue


IIRC = If I Recall Correctly
FCS = Fire Control System
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Postby Narcidia » Wed Sep 29, 2010 2:00 pm

Thanks...
I would be lying if I said I knew what a fire-control-system is.
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Postby Dostanuot Loj » Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:03 pm

Chernobyl-Pripyat wrote:
Dostanuot Loj wrote:
It's actually the other way around.


In 1999 the T-90 was operational, where as the Black Eagle was a mock up. At the present, the T-90 has superior control systems and optics along with higher protection[based on a test with a T-90 and T-80U which had taken place in '99 or '00, since then with the "A" model things had been improved mostly being fire controls and advanced ERA, combined with a welded turret.]


Well, apparently the T-90's FCS is inferior to the T-80UD, which the Black Eagle is superior to.

In 1999 the T-90 was a T-72 with a downgraded T-80U turret.

The T-90A improves production by reducing specialized quality, and hence reduces production, maintenance and training times by allowing similarity with the T-72, at expense of a degradation in performance from the T-80U.

T-90 ERA is ~20 years old. Black Eagle ERA has not actually been deployed.

T-90 welded turret is ~25 years old. And is actually a downgraded T-80 variant turret.

But hey.. it's not like I've read any of the reports or analysis on either tank, or like I know the history.
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Postby Narexia » Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:07 pm

The Corparation wrote:
Senestrum wrote:Image

YYEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAHH

What is this? It would look great if you took off one of the guns.

This is a real 2S19 Msta modified to have 2 152mm howitzers on one SP mount. Very nasty though I think only one of them was ever built as a prototype but like I said, it would be very nasty to have about 100 of these shelling about 10,000 poor bastards caught out in the open armed only with M16's and MP5's!
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Postby Chernobyl-Pripyat » Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:15 pm

Dostanuot Loj wrote:
Chernobyl-Pripyat wrote:
In 1999 the T-90 was operational, where as the Black Eagle was a mock up. At the present, the T-90 has superior control systems and optics along with higher protection[based on a test with a T-90 and T-80U which had taken place in '99 or '00, since then with the "A" model things had been improved mostly being fire controls and advanced ERA, combined with a welded turret.]


Well, apparently the T-90's FCS is inferior to the T-80UD, which the Black Eagle is superior to.

In 1999 the T-90 was a T-72 with a downgraded T-80U turret.

The T-90A improves production by reducing specialized quality, and hence reduces production, maintenance and training times by allowing similarity with the T-72, at expense of a degradation in performance from the T-80U.

T-90 ERA is ~20 years old. Black Eagle ERA has not actually been deployed.

T-90 welded turret is ~25 years old. And is actually a downgraded T-80 variant turret.

But hey.. it's not like I've read any of the reports or analysis on either tank, or like I know the history.



I don't see how anyone can claim the Black Eagle is superior to anything, since the only functioning part of it was the hull.

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Postby Dostanuot Loj » Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:17 pm

Chernobyl-Pripyat wrote:
Dostanuot Loj wrote:
Well, apparently the T-90's FCS is inferior to the T-80UD, which the Black Eagle is superior to.

In 1999 the T-90 was a T-72 with a downgraded T-80U turret.

The T-90A improves production by reducing specialized quality, and hence reduces production, maintenance and training times by allowing similarity with the T-72, at expense of a degradation in performance from the T-80U.

T-90 ERA is ~20 years old. Black Eagle ERA has not actually been deployed.

T-90 welded turret is ~25 years old. And is actually a downgraded T-80 variant turret.

But hey.. it's not like I've read any of the reports or analysis on either tank, or like I know the history.



I don't see how anyone can claim the Black Eagle is superior to anything, since the only functioning part of it was the hull.


No, the only non-functioning part was the armour, which was under-built as it was a demo.

We're not talking T-95 here, the Black Eagle was actually built and tested.
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Hey how do you make your own tanks? anybody know it would be appreciated, I know how I can make my own guns (pimpmygun @ drnoob) but not tanks. Thank you!

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Postby Minnysota » Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:20 pm

I thought both the Black Eagle and T-95 were canceled? Or are you debating their effetiveness on NS?
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Postby Dostanuot Loj » Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:23 pm

Minnysota wrote:I thought both the Black Eagle and T-95 were canceled? Or are you debating their effetiveness on NS?


Both were, we're talking Black Eagle and T-90.

Which gets more fun since a Russian general claimed the Black Eagle was a wooden mock up recently. Despite it being fairly well documented to be quite the opposite by both Russian (And Ukrainian) sources, but also foreign ones.

But hey, the pokpung ho is apparently the best tank ever made if you ask Generals in the DPRK, and they should know.
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Postby United Gackle » Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:27 pm

Image New designed Humvee (sorry if this ain't allowed here but wonder if other military vehicules count too?)
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Postby The Corparation » Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:29 pm

United Gackle wrote:Image New designed Humvee (sorry if this ain't allowed here but wonder if other military vehicules count too?)

This is the MBT thread. Your little Humvee like all of its little siblings has almost no armor. Your little humvee is about to be slaughtered by vehicles built for actul combat.
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Postby United Gackle » Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:33 pm

The Corparation wrote:
United Gackle wrote: New designed Humvee (sorry if this ain't allowed here but wonder if other military vehicules count too?)

This is the MBT thread. Your little Humvee like all of its little siblings has almost no armor. Your little humvee is about to be slaughtered by vehicles built for actul combat.

Do you actually know what Humvee's are for? prolly not they are for Infentry support who are with tanks as well.
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Postby Narcidia » Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:34 pm

LIGHT infantry support. Humvee's aren't designed for anything more than an MG and further more don't belong in this thread. >>;
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Postby United Gackle » Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:35 pm

Narcidia wrote:LIGHT infantry support. Humvee's aren't designed for anything more than an MG and further more don't belong in this thread. >>;

Well I noticed a truck which falls below Humvee's.
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Postby Imperial isa » Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:39 pm

there a thread somewhere for Humvee's and that
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Postby Satirius » Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:43 pm

United Gackle wrote:
Narcidia wrote:LIGHT infantry support. Humvee's aren't designed for anything more than an MG and further more don't belong in this thread. >>;

Well I noticed a truck which falls below Humvee's.

Posted as a joke

either way an actual armored car or a Wiesel would do you better
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Postby The Corparation » Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:51 pm

United Gackle wrote:
The Corparation wrote:This is the MBT thread. Your little Humvee like all of its little siblings has almost no armor. Your little humvee is about to be slaughtered by vehicles built for actul combat.

Do you actually know what Humvee's are for? prolly not they are for Infentry support who are with tanks as well.

Humvee was built for use behind front lines away from battle. It has no armor much less NBC protection all it does is carry men and equipment from a to b. It wasn't even built to withstand small-ams fire much less a full on MG or IED. Even with the bolt on armor they can't take many hits


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Narcidia wrote:LIGHT infantry support. Humvee's aren't designed for anything more than an MG and further more don't belong in this thread. >>;

Well I noticed a truck which falls below Humvee's.

That's known as a technical. They aren't actual combat vehicles they're just Toyatas with a MG bolted on the back. They're cheap fast and carry a moderate size weapon. Against an actual military they suck.
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Postby United Gackle » Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:01 pm

The Corparation wrote:
United Gackle wrote:Do you actually know what Humvee's are for? prolly not they are for Infentry support who are with tanks as well.

Humvee was built for use behind front lines away from battle. It has no armor much less NBC protection all it does is carry men and equipment from a to b. It wasn't even built to withstand small-ams fire much less a full on MG or IED. Even with the bolt on armor they can't take many hits


United Gackle wrote:Well I noticed a truck which falls below Humvee's.

That's known as a technical. They aren't actual combat vehicles they're just Toyatas with a MG bolted on the back. They're cheap fast and carry a moderate size weapon. Against an actual military they suck.

well if its a toyota, in that case it fails i'll stick with a Siverado for a Technical then fast, and reliable.
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