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Postby Satirius » Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:28 pm

United States of PA wrote:
Satirius wrote:only works in mortar carriers even then(actually it would work quite well in a SPM of reasonable caliber), howitzers are just too damn space intensive unless you had no intention of storing ammo in the SPA



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Postby United States of PA » Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:29 pm

Senestrum wrote:
Satirius wrote:only works in mortar carriers even then(actually it would work quite well in a SPM of reasonable caliber), howitzers are just too damn space intensive unless you had no intention of storing ammo in the SPA

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Postby Senestrum » Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:38 pm

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Senestrum wrote:image snip

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5 minutes late there Friend.

I inlined it, it balances out. :p
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Postby Columbia Progress » Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:39 pm

A main battle tank? What the Devil is a main battle tank?

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Postby Licana » Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:42 pm

Columbia Progress wrote:A main battle tank? What the Devil is a main battle tank?

It's that thing on the horizon...'sploding your troops
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Postby Cobhanglica » Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:44 pm

Columbia Progress wrote:A main battle tank? What the Devil is a main battle tank?


It's the thing using your troops for tread grease.
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Postby The Corparation » Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:52 pm

Senestrum wrote:
Satirius wrote:only works in mortar carriers even then(actually it would work quite well in a SPM of reasonable caliber), howitzers are just too damn space intensive unless you had no intention of storing ammo in the SPA

Image

YYEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAHH

What is this? It would look great if you took of one of the guns.
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Postby Idaho Conservatives » Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:12 pm

The Corparation wrote:
Senestrum wrote:Image

YYEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAHH

What is this? It would look great if you took of one of the guns.


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Postby Senestrum » Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:32 pm

The Corparation wrote:
Senestrum wrote:Image

YYEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAHH

What is this? It would look great if you took of one of the guns.

It's Russian.

That's all that needs to be said.
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Postby Columbia Progress » Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:39 pm

Licana wrote:It's that thing on the horizon...'sploding your troops

Cobhanglica wrote:It's the thing using your troops for tread grease.


You both are obviously suffering from some kind of affliction of the senses where you hallucinate about fantasmagorical military machines.

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Postby Senestrum » Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:57 pm

Columbia Progress wrote:
Licana wrote:It's that thing on the horizon...'sploding your troops

Cobhanglica wrote:It's the thing using your troops for tread grease.


You both are obviously suffering from some kind of affliction of the senses where you hallucinate about fantasmagorical military machines.

A "tank" is a land vehicle that is self-propelled, usually by some sort of internal combustion engine, or possibly even steam power. It has a track running around the wheels, which allow it to spread ground pressure out over a large area. It has multiple weapons, including one or more cannon, machine guns, grenade projectors, and the like. The crew, usually consisting of a minimum of three or four, or in extreme cases as much as eleven or twelve members, is protected from enemy fire by thick armor, and use periscopes and telescopes to observe the battlefield and aim at targets.

It generally utilizes its armor to engage in relatively close combat with impunity, slaying infantry with automatic weaponry and enemy tanks, vehicles, and fortifications with cannon.
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Postby The City State Rhydin » Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:11 pm

Rhydin currently employs the LY4A1 Wolfhound MBT as it's main battle tank of it's military forces. There are others but no where as numerous as this vehicle type.
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Postby Dostanuot Loj » Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:40 am

Satirius wrote:

I stand corrected

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To be fair, the intent of that gun is for the Russian military. Which, in terms of doctrine, still keeps with massive artillery fire before attacks. That gun is intended for rapid fire-on-target, without much serious aim, and always supported by a huge logistics chain. Vimy Ridge type stuff really. It And it's only intended to be a small fraction of Russian Army guns. More the idea of bringing all guns into one caliber, rather then having 3-4 different calibers at the division level.
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Postby Estainia » Tue Sep 28, 2010 4:38 am

Senestrum wrote:
Columbia Progress wrote:

You both are obviously suffering from some kind of affliction of the senses where you hallucinate about fantasmagorical military machines.

A "tank" is a land vehicle that is self-propelled, usually by some sort of internal combustion engine, or possibly even steam power. It has a track running around the wheels, which allow it to spread ground pressure out over a large area. It has multiple weapons, including one or more cannon, machine guns, grenade projectors, and the like. The crew, usually consisting of a minimum of three or four, or in extreme cases as much as eleven or twelve members, is protected from enemy fire by thick armor, and use periscopes and telescopes to observe the battlefield and aim at targets.

It generally utilizes its armor to engage in relatively close combat with impunity, slaying infantry with automatic weaponry and enemy tanks, vehicles, and fortifications with cannon.


<_< Maybe he knows what a tank is, maybe he's just going off the whole 18th/19th Century thing that his nation is and the tank doesn't exist yet? O'and, they really aren't all that great at fortification bashing, bring artillery for that. ;D
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Postby Inutoland » Tue Sep 28, 2010 5:50 am

The Canadian Pacific wrote:
Senestrum wrote:After scaling the picture, I agree. For it to plausibly be a 180mm gun, I would add two or three pixels to the diameter of the gun barrel and thermal sleeve. Also, with such a large gun you are unlikely to fit much ammo, especially since you have no turret bustle capable of storing said rounds. What role do you envision this vehicle having?


Personally I'd use it for a tank destroyer.


That's about what I'd envisioned as far as role goes. Does having an ETC gun negate the capacity to use GLATGMs, at all? I don't actually know.

As far as the gun goes, I'll correct the picture and upload a new version. It looked about right to me, but I didn't actually scale it.
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Postby Senestrum » Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:42 am

Estainia wrote:
Senestrum wrote:A "tank" is a land vehicle that is self-propelled, usually by some sort of internal combustion engine, or possibly even steam power. It has a track running around the wheels, which allow it to spread ground pressure out over a large area. It has multiple weapons, including one or more cannon, machine guns, grenade projectors, and the like. The crew, usually consisting of a minimum of three or four, or in extreme cases as much as eleven or twelve members, is protected from enemy fire by thick armor, and use periscopes and telescopes to observe the battlefield and aim at targets.

It generally utilizes its armor to engage in relatively close combat with impunity, slaying infantry with automatic weaponry and enemy tanks, vehicles, and fortifications with cannon.


<_< Maybe he knows what a tank is, maybe he's just going off the whole 18th/19th Century thing that his nation is and the tank doesn't exist yet? O'and, they really aren't all that great at fortification bashing, bring artillery for that. ;D

Maybe I was attempting to explain it to an 18th,19th level person, hence the use of "telescope" in a context other than astronomy. :p

Edit: and the reference to them possibly being able to use steam power, olol.
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Postby Senestrum » Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:44 am

Inutoland wrote:
The Canadian Pacific wrote:
Personally I'd use it for a tank destroyer.


That's about what I'd envisioned as far as role goes. Does having an ETC gun negate the capacity to use GLATGMs, at all? I don't actually know.

As far as the gun goes, I'll correct the picture and upload a new version. It looked about right to me, but I didn't actually scale it.

No, it does not.

If you're going to use GLATGMs, 180mm is really excessive, though.
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Postby Mikedor » Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:53 am

Senestrum wrote:
Estainia wrote:
<_< Maybe he knows what a tank is, maybe he's just going off the whole 18th/19th Century thing that his nation is and the tank doesn't exist yet? O'and, they really aren't all that great at fortification bashing, bring artillery for that. ;D

Maybe I was attempting to explain it to an 18th,19th level person, hence the use of "telescope" in a context other than astronomy. :p

Edit: and the reference to them possibly being able to use steam power, olol.

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Postby Inutoland » Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:31 am

Senestrum wrote:
Inutoland wrote:
That's about what I'd envisioned as far as role goes. Does having an ETC gun negate the capacity to use GLATGMs, at all? I don't actually know.

As far as the gun goes, I'll correct the picture and upload a new version. It looked about right to me, but I didn't actually scale it.

No, it does not.

If you're going to use GLATGMs, 180mm is really excessive, though.


Fixed the barrel.
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Yeah, I know it's kinda overkill for GLATGMs, but I don't envision it being exclusively GLATGM-based. And besides, the ability to lob a 180mm shell at ETC energies ought to take care of most NS wanktanks.
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Postby Valrem » Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:44 am

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Postby Noders » Tue Sep 28, 2010 9:34 am

Mikedor wrote:
Senestrum wrote:Maybe I was attempting to explain it to an 18th,19th level person, hence the use of "telescope" in a context other than astronomy. :p

Edit: and the reference to them possibly being able to use steam power, olol.

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Postby Satirius » Tue Sep 28, 2010 9:43 am

Inutoland wrote:
Senestrum wrote:No, it does not.

If you're going to use GLATGMs, 180mm is really excessive, though.


Fixed the barrel.
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Yeah, I know it's kinda overkill for GLATGMs, but I don't envision it being exclusively GLATGM-based. And besides, the ability to lob a 180mm shell at ETC energies ought to take care of most NS wanktanks.

A top-attack also works. A single LAHAT missile can easily penetrate an MCA-7E.
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Postby Bajireyn » Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:47 pm

the M7A2 Ka'ryat MBT
stats:
weight:62 tons
length:28.04 feet
width:12 feet
height:8.5 feet
crew:3[commander gunner and driver]
armor:chobtam, RH,steel encased uranium depleted mesh armor.
primary armament;M-798 rifled 120MM ETC gun
secondary armament:25 mm coaxial auto-cannon M2 50 cal machine gun 1M-762 MG 1 MK-19 40mm grenade launcher
4X javelin missile launchers
engine:1 bajireyn land systems PS-765 diesel-electric engine
suspension:torsion bar
speed:
road:45 MPH
off-road 34 MPH

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^M1202 scorpion light tank
stats:
weight:40 tons
length:34 feet
width: 9 feet
crew:3
armor:chobtam, ERA and slat armor
primary armament: M-115 105mm rifled ETC cannon
secondary armament 50 caliber coaxial MG, M240 MG and two javelin missile launchers
engine:1 bajireyn land systems PS-567 diesel-electric engine
suspension: torsion bar
speed:
off road:40 miles per hour
road: 46 miles per hour

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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:52 pm

Satirius wrote:
Inutoland wrote:
Fixed the barrel.
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Yeah, I know it's kinda overkill for GLATGMs, but I don't envision it being exclusively GLATGM-based. And besides, the ability to lob a 180mm shell at ETC energies ought to take care of most NS wanktanks.

A top-attack also works. A single LAHAT missile can easily penetrate an MCA-7E.

He could also probably use HE to shake the tank around and F-up the electronics, with a decent chance of killing the crew members.
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