Your Nation's Main Battle Tank (No Mechs) [Part 1]

[Indeos]

Buy surplus T-55s.

Seriously, cheapest tank ever.

Bob Semple tanks says what?

[Licana]

Buy surplus T-55s.

Seriously, cheapest tank ever.

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[Krasnotav]

Stock up on M3 Lee-Oh shi-*BLAM*

*Ignore that, the M3 Lee never existed. YOU HEAR ME!? NEVAR. EVAR. EXISTED!*

[Marcheria]

Update: T-163 Grunderbear MBT

combat weight: 105 tons
crew: 3: commander, gunner, driver
Main armament: One 125mm heavy gun
secondary armament:
Coaxial:1x 20mm cannon
Commanders Station: 1 .50 caliber MG
Loader's station: 1 .50 caliber MG
Power plant: TRE 765 multi fuel turbine drive system
Speed: 67mph
Range 600km
Armor: Layered scheme using Steel titanium, Depleted uranium, ceramics and non woven ballistic polymers, outer layer of Reactive armor
Price:$2.3 million

[Central Panamambia]

Buy surplus T-55s.

Seriously, cheapest tank ever.

Ok thanks.

T-34s with flamethrowers. Go!

[Licana]

Update: T-163 Grunderbear MBT
(Image)
combat weight: 105 tons
crew: 3: commander, gunner, driver
Main armament: One 125mm heavy gun
secondary armament:
Coaxial:1x 20mm cannon
Commanders Station: 1 .50 caliber MG
Loader's station: 1 .50 caliber MG
Power plant: TRE 765 multi fuel turbine drive system
Speed: 67mph
Range 600km
Armor: Layered scheme using Steel titanium, Depleted uranium, ceramics and non woven ballistic polymers, outer layer of Reactive armor
Price:$2.3 million

Why's it so heavy?
Why is there a loader's station if there's no loader?
I doubt you could get 600 km out of a turbine without carrying around a fuckton of fuel.
67 mph? I'm pretty sure you're not going to crank that kind of speak out of most treaded vehicles, let alone one that weighs 105 tons.
I highly doubt your listed price, this thing would be half the cost of a Leopard 2. You'd probably have to gut the tank of all electronics to get that price while having enough materials (especially with lulzy expensive Titanium) to sufficiently armour the vehicle, and even then I'm not quite sure on it.

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

Update: T-163 Grunderbear MBT
(Image)
combat weight: 105 tons
crew: 3: commander, gunner, driver
Main armament: One 125mm heavy gun
secondary armament:
Coaxial:1x 20mm cannon
Commanders Station: 1 .50 caliber MG
Loader's station: 1 .50 caliber MG
Power plant: TRE 765 multi fuel turbine drive system
Speed: 67mph
Range 600km
Armor: Layered scheme using Steel titanium, Depleted uranium, ceramics and non woven ballistic polymers, outer layer of Reactive armor
Price:$2.3 million

So many problems.
1. Why so heavy? It will cost many times more than an Abrams to transport due to its weight.
2. Why such a small gun? You will barely scratch the armour of most NS tanks.
3. Why turbine? It is much less efficient and has a higher heat signature.
4. Titanium is expensive, unless you don't mind spending $30 million per tank, don't use it in place of, or alongside steel.
5. Price is too low.

[Deshara]

My country, being a swampy, marsh-filled wetland, doesn't support tanks. In response to local conditions, the armored division of Deshara's military fields amphibeous IFVs to give a very long range of opperations without the need to switch equipment, backed heavily by hit-and-run gunships and attack helicopters.

Main Battle Tank (Actually an Infantry Fighting Vehicle, but it's the best you'll get in a country who's land can't support the weight of a modern battle tank): The Chinese-built ZBD-97

Main Attack Chopper:
The Bell AH-1Z Viper, for armor support roles.

[The Kievan People]

Wrong thread.

[Dostanuot Loj]

I've got my doubts you know a Brigadier General, let alone one with enough knowledge of the subject to be able to say so. Being an officer does not make you an expert in a subject. Especially not when the entire military backs some members to know this, and they say otherwise.

Obama could say it was residual heat, and he'd still be wrong. Because (Drumroll please) he does not know enough about the specifics to be able to tell. Just like taking AP Biology in high school does not make you a neurosurgeon. So if you do know an O7 who has told you that (I Doubt - Especially as in the 20 years since then almost all O7's at that time have retired), then he or she is wrong, and there is nothing more to it.

first, yeah i know several high up officers, but they are mostly Navy and actually called some of them last night, seems most agree with you(like i did suspect, you guys have no reason to lie). but not this guy.
the O7 in question is in fact reitired, but he also wasn't an O7 at the time.
He has a Masters in National Defense and Strategic Studies.
He wasn't a Brigadier General he was a Rear Admiral

and lastly, WTH you seriously can't let this die, i thought this was over is it seriously that important to prove me wrong on whether or not i know someone.

I'll go down this list then:
1: Where did he do his masters?
2: Where has he been published?
3: With what unit did he serve in ODS?

Those are three basic questions he should both be able to, and be highly willing to answer to anyone who asks.

I'll reiterate that I highly doubt your claims of knowing several flag-rank officers, current or former, in the US forces. In the world of internet arguments it's much more likely you made a claim, got called out, and are trying to save face. Which is quite frankly a waste of time for both of us, as we know you are wrong. Admitting it does not make you look any worse, but dragging out lies to save face does.

[Senestrum]

Buy surplus T-55s.

Seriously, cheapest tank ever.

Bob Semple tanks says what?

Honestly, I'm not sure making a force of Bob Semple Tanks would actually be cheaper than buying the same number of surplus T-55s. I mean, you have to find and purchase a fleet of old bulldozers, do all the necessary work converting and up-armoring them, and set up a logistics pipeline for all of them. And if you went as cheapskate as possible with the bulldozers (to acquire them for less than a surplus T-55) you would probably end up with a ton of different models and brands, making logistics a nightmare.

Or you just buy up a bunch of the most widely available and numerous tank in human history, for a per-tank cost similar to that of a used truck. Which gives you >9000 times as much bang for your buck as a Bob Semple Tank. Easy choice.

[Indeos]

Bob Semple tanks says what?

Honestly, I'm not sure making a force of Bob Semple Tanks would actually be cheaper than buying the same number of surplus T-55s. I mean, you have to find and purchase a fleet of old bulldozers, do all the necessary work converting and up-armoring them, and set up a logistics pipeline for all of them. And if you went as cheapskate as possible with the bulldozers (to acquire them for less than a surplus T-55) you would probably end up with a ton of different models and brands, making logistics a nightmare.

Or you just buy up a bunch of the most widely available and numerous tank in human history, for a per-tank cost similar to that of a used truck. Which gives you >9000 times as much bang for your buck as a Bob Semple Tank. Easy choice.

Just saying, 1 Bob Semple is cheaper than 1 T-55. And he'd probably have a bunch of eligible vehicles lying around his nation.

[New Korongo]

Bob Semple tanks says what?

GO KIWI INGENUITY

[Shacks Around a Fire]

[Marcheria]

Update: T-163 Grunderbear MBT
(Image)
combat weight: 105 tons
crew: 3: commander, gunner, driver
Main armament: One 125mm heavy gun
secondary armament:
Coaxial:1x 20mm cannon
Commanders Station: 1 .50 caliber MG
Loader's station: 1 .50 caliber MG
Power plant: TRE 765 multi fuel turbine drive system
Speed: 67mph
Range 600km
Armor: Layered scheme using Steel titanium, Depleted uranium, ceramics and non woven ballistic polymers, outer layer of Reactive armor
Price:$2.3 million

So many problems.
1. Why so heavy? It will cost many times more than an Abrams to transport due to its weight.
2. Why such a small gun? You will barely scratch the armour of most NS tanks.
3. Why turbine? It is much less efficient and has a higher heat signature.
4. Titanium is expensive, unless you don't mind spending $30 million per tank, don't use it in place of, or alongside steel.
5. Price is too low.

Yeah. I had a friend make it up for me. Thats what ya get 4 not editing........ Im editing it now. Btw, Ill be having a sale on them in a couple weeks, with DU plates. Were dismantling our nukes, so were refining some of the older bombs into armored plates. Also, major discounts 4 my bday this thursday.

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

So many problems.
1. Why so heavy? It will cost many times more than an Abrams to transport due to its weight.
2. Why such a small gun? You will barely scratch the armour of most NS tanks.
3. Why turbine? It is much less efficient and has a higher heat signature.
4. Titanium is expensive, unless you don't mind spending $30 million per tank, don't use it in place of, or alongside steel.
5. Price is too low.

Yeah. I had a friend make it up for me. Thats what ya get 4 not editing........ Im editing it now. Btw, Ill be having a sale on them in a couple weeks, with DU plates. Were dismantling our nukes, so were refining some of the older bombs into armored plates. Also, major discounts 4 my bday this thursday.

If you need help, I am available, and Sumer (Dostonought Loj or whatever his name in NS is) would probably be willing to help, either post questions here and someone will answer them, or TG me and I will answer it, or refer you to someone.

[Muslim Christians]

first, yeah i know several high up officers, but they are mostly Navy and actually called some of them last night, seems most agree with you(like i did suspect, you guys have no reason to lie). but not this guy.
the O7 in question is in fact reitired, but he also wasn't an O7 at the time.
He has a Masters in National Defense and Strategic Studies.
He wasn't a Brigadier General he was a Rear Admiral

and lastly, WTH you seriously can't let this die, i thought this was over is it seriously that important to prove me wrong on whether or not i know someone.

I'll go down this list then:
1: Where did he do his masters?
2: Where has he been published?
3: With what unit did he serve in ODS?

Those are three basic questions he should both be able to, and be highly willing to answer to anyone who asks.

I'll reiterate that I highly doubt your claims of knowing several flag-rank officers, current or former, in the US forces. In the world of internet arguments it's much more likely you made a claim, got called out, and are trying to save face. Which is quite frankly a waste of time for both of us, as we know you are wrong. Admitting it does not make you look any worse, but dragging out lies to save face does.

I never said he was published
USNWC (im not sure if can get that masters anywhere else except other services war colleges...could be wrong,idk) Im taking this to the TG...beyond that...yyou seriously can't let this die can you....Peace

[Marcheria]

Yeah. I had a friend make it up for me. Thats what ya get 4 not editing........ Im editing it now. Btw, Ill be having a sale on them in a couple weeks, with DU plates. Were dismantling our nukes, so were refining some of the older bombs into armored plates. Also, major discounts 4 my bday this thursday.

If you need help, I am available, and Sumer (Dostonought Loj or whatever his name in NS is) would probably be willing to help, either post questions here and someone will answer them, or TG me and I will answer it, or refer you to someone.

Ok its pretty much fixed. I found a real-world basis, so I've pretty much got things down.

[Bajireyn]

(Image)

Fail,that is not a tank and does not even closely resemble a tank...

[Marcheria]

(Image)

Fail,that is not a tank and does not even closely resemble a tank...

Yo ma, are you blind.....thass a rock!

[Bajireyn]

Fail,that is not a tank and does not even closely resemble a tank...

Yo ma, are you blind.....thass a rock!

What?

[Muslim Christians]

our MBT is the Mark IV we are a peaceful religious nation so we haven't had a reason to upgrade for quite a long time

we have just started to upgrade existing tanks to better equipment, just in case lighter/stronger armour and more efficient engines.


We also have quite a few Renault ft-17s but obviously not our MTB

[Dostanuot Loj]

I'll go down this list then:
1: Where did he do his masters?
2: Where has he been published?
3: With what unit did he serve in ODS?

Those are three basic questions he should both be able to, and be highly willing to answer to anyone who asks.

I'll reiterate that I highly doubt your claims of knowing several flag-rank officers, current or former, in the US forces. In the world of internet arguments it's much more likely you made a claim, got called out, and are trying to save face. Which is quite frankly a waste of time for both of us, as we know you are wrong. Admitting it does not make you look any worse, but dragging out lies to save face does.

I never said he was published
USNWC (im not sure if can get that masters anywhere else except other services war colleges...could be wrong,idk) Im taking this to the TG...beyond that...yyou seriously can't let this die can you....Peace

Masters programs involve being published, even those from the NWC (Which does not offer such a specific program, by the way).

[The Corparation]

Buy surplus T-55s.

Seriously, cheapest tank ever.

Bob Semple tanks says what?

Best tank ever.

[New Korongo]

Best tank ever.

another NZ design