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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Mon May 09, 2011 5:56 pm

Bajireyn wrote:(Repost)
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Mk.45 Dragon Hover-tank
Manufacturer: Dah'ool Armaments
Cost: $ 150,000 NBSD
Weight: 55.5 tons
Crew: 2 (Driver-Gunner & Commander,rest is automated)
Armour: Titanium-tungsten armor with active protection system and laser CWIS
Armament: 135mm rail gun,and a 15mm Gauss machine gun and sockets for extra weapons
Ammunition:3 round Auto-loaded revolver magazines (16 APFSDS-T magazines, 12 HEAT-T magazines,5 canister shells and 5 Nuclear-tipped shell magazines)
Suspension: Type-120 hover pads (4 on each side)
Range: 1500 km
Max Speed: 80kph

$150k is far too little for any tank at all. 25 times that much would be more accurate.
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Postby United Districts of 1 » Mon May 09, 2011 5:57 pm

Bajireyn wrote:(Repost)
(Image)
Mk.45 Dragon Hover-tank
Manufacturer: Dah'ool Armaments
Cost: $ 150,000 NBSD
Weight: 55.5 tons
Crew: 2 (Driver-Gunner & Commander,rest is automated)
Armour: Titanium-tungsten armor with active protection system and laser CWIS
Armament: 135mm rail gun,and a 15mm Gauss machine gun and sockets for extra weapons
Ammunition:3 round Auto-loaded revolver magazines (16 APFSDS-T magazines, 12 HEAT-T magazines,5 canister shells and 5 Nuclear-tipped shell magazines)
Suspension: Type-120 hover pads (4 on each side)
Range: 1500 km
Max Speed: 80kph

Seams a lil' under cost for that type of system, everything else checks out pretty fine.
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Postby United Districts of 1 » Mon May 09, 2011 5:58 pm

Moriskov wrote:
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I'm guessing that top armor isn't that thick? If so, then a well placed Howitzer round or anti-tank gun might ruin it's day. Other than that it's pretty good.

indeed, I don't like to make invincible radar trucks though so ya know.
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Wamitoria wrote:Getting 90% of his military killed during an unnecessary, botched invasion of Russia?

Exactly! He killed a lot of frenchmen- something any englishman should aspire to!
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Postby Bajireyn » Mon May 09, 2011 6:01 pm

@UD1 and ASE,the price has been changed to be more realistic...
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Postby The Corparation » Mon May 09, 2011 6:01 pm

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
Bajireyn wrote:(Repost)
(Image)
Mk.45 Dragon Hover-tank
Manufacturer: Dah'ool Armaments
Cost: $ 150,000 NBSD
Weight: 55.5 tons
Crew: 2 (Driver-Gunner & Commander,rest is automated)
Armour: Titanium-tungsten armor with active protection system and laser CWIS
Armament: 135mm rail gun,and a 15mm Gauss machine gun and sockets for extra weapons
Ammunition:3 round Auto-loaded revolver magazines (16 APFSDS-T magazines, 12 HEAT-T magazines,5 canister shells and 5 Nuclear-tipped shell magazines)
Suspension: Type-120 hover pads (4 on each side)
Range: 1500 km
Max Speed: 80kph

$150k is far too little for any tank at all. 25 times that much would be more accurate.

Maybe his currency has an ultra high exchange rate compared to other countries?
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Postby United Districts of 1 » Mon May 09, 2011 6:03 pm

Bajireyn wrote:@UD1 and ASE,the price has been changed to be more realistic...

That seems better, I'd be shooting for system survivability at that price.
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Exactly! He killed a lot of frenchmen- something any englishman should aspire to!
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Postby Moriskov » Mon May 09, 2011 6:04 pm

United Districts of 1 wrote:
Moriskov wrote:I'm guessing that top armor isn't that thick? If so, then a well placed Howitzer round or anti-tank gun might ruin it's day. Other than that it's pretty good.

indeed, I don't like to make invincible radar trucks though so ya know.

Yea..... I love me artillery. :lol:
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Alowwvia wrote:And for every ATGM, there's a guy with a pistol that can kill him for much cheaper.


True. But can the guy with a pistol kill the tank? Only if he's Mattias Nilsson.

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Postby Licana » Mon May 09, 2011 6:05 pm

Bajireyn wrote:(Repost)
(Image)
Mk.45 Dragon Hover-tank
Manufacturer: Dah'ool Armaments
Cost: $ 150,000,000 NBSD
Weight: 55.5 tons
Crew: 2 (Driver-Gunner & Commander,rest is automated)
Armour: Titanium-tungsten armor with active protection system and laser CWIS
Armament: 135mm rail gun,and a 15mm Gauss machine gun and sockets for extra weapons
Ammunition:3 round Auto-loaded revolver magazines (16 APFSDS-T magazines, 12 HEAT-T magazines,5 canister shells and 5 Nuclear-tipped shell magazines)
Suspension: Type-120 hover pads (4 on each side)
Range: 1500 km
Max Speed: 80kph

Driver-Gunner seems like very, very, unthinkably bad idea. What majiks propel this thing for 1500 kilometers?
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Vitaphone Racing wrote:Do lets. I really want to hear another explanation about dirty vaginas keeping women out of combat, despite the vagina being a self-cleaning organ.

So was the M-16.

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Postby United Districts of 1 » Mon May 09, 2011 6:06 pm

So what's the deal with FT and Pmter's obsession with mechs.
@Mskov- Yeah but being a radar truck I predict it'll be low on the priority list when your being pounded by my Comanche gunships and Dm-50 MBT
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Wamitoria wrote:Getting 90% of his military killed during an unnecessary, botched invasion of Russia?

Exactly! He killed a lot of frenchmen- something any englishman should aspire to!
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Postby Moriskov » Mon May 09, 2011 6:10 pm

United Districts of 1 wrote:So what's the deal with FT and Pmter's obsession with mechs.
@Mskov- Yeah but being a radar truck I predict it'll be low on the priority list when your being pounded by my Comanche gunships and Dm-50 MBT

Not if i have my Triple A swatting at your Comanches and have My T100 ogres countering your tanks :)
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Osaea wrote:
Alowwvia wrote:And for every ATGM, there's a guy with a pistol that can kill him for much cheaper.


True. But can the guy with a pistol kill the tank? Only if he's Mattias Nilsson.

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..__▂▄▅█████████████████████▄▃▂
I████Moriskov [1AR-R] - T-43 ██████████]
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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Mon May 09, 2011 6:11 pm

The Corparation wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:$150k is far too little for any tank at all. 25 times that much would be more accurate.

Maybe his currency has an ultra high exchange rate compared to other countries?

Worth more than 25 times more than a US dollar? Also, it isn't a good idea to have the highest exchange rate possible, for several economic reasons. Someone in one thread made a very good argument that I may dig up.
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Postby Moriskov » Mon May 09, 2011 6:13 pm

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
The Corparation wrote:Maybe his currency has an ultra high exchange rate compared to other countries?

Worth more than 25 times more than a US dollar? Also, it isn't a good idea to have the highest exchange rate possible, for several economic reasons. Someone in one thread made a very good argument that I may dig up.

1 NBSD = $1.0423 Here is evidence to support your claim. I love that NS calculator
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Osaea wrote:
Alowwvia wrote:And for every ATGM, there's a guy with a pistol that can kill him for much cheaper.


True. But can the guy with a pistol kill the tank? Only if he's Mattias Nilsson.

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I████Moriskov [1AR-R] - T-43 ██████████]
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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Mon May 09, 2011 6:16 pm

Moriskov wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:Worth more than 25 times more than a US dollar? Also, it isn't a good idea to have the highest exchange rate possible, for several economic reasons. Someone in one thread made a very good argument that I may dig up.

1 NBSD = $1.0423 Here is evidence to support your claim. I love that NS calculator

Calculators are retarded and simply justify wanking. Most nations shouldn't have a GDP per capita of 45k, 15-20k average would be more realistic.
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Postby United Districts of 1 » Mon May 09, 2011 6:17 pm

Moriskov wrote:
United Districts of 1 wrote:So what's the deal with FT and Pmter's obsession with mechs.
@Mskov- Yeah but being a radar truck I predict it'll be low on the priority list when your being pounded by my Comanche gunships and Dm-50 MBT

Not if i have my Triple A swatting at your Comanches and have My T100 ogres countering your tanks :)

Meh comanches are stealth equipped so missiles would be rather ineffective. Your tanks would be a problem, are you PMT?
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Exactly! He killed a lot of frenchmen- something any englishman should aspire to!
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Postby Anastasia Romanova (Ancient) » Mon May 09, 2011 6:19 pm

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Postby Kelwona » Mon May 09, 2011 6:20 pm

IIRC the commanche had a radar siganture only 20% less than the AH-64.

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Postby Licana » Mon May 09, 2011 6:20 pm

United Districts of 1 wrote:
Moriskov wrote:Not if i have my Triple A swatting at your Comanches and have My T100 ogres countering your tanks :)

Meh comanches are stealth equipped so missiles would be rather ineffective. Your tanks would be a problem, are you PMT?

IIRC Comanche wasn't terribly stealthy.
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Vitaphone Racing wrote:Do lets. I really want to hear another explanation about dirty vaginas keeping women out of combat, despite the vagina being a self-cleaning organ.

So was the M-16.

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Postby Moriskov » Mon May 09, 2011 6:21 pm

United Districts of 1 wrote:
Moriskov wrote:Not if i have my Triple A swatting at your Comanches and have My T100 ogres countering your tanks :)

Meh comanches are stealth equipped so missiles would be rather ineffective. Your tanks would be a problem, are you PMT?

Yep. Also you shouldn't be worried about missiles. Triple A is Anti Air Artillery.... flak basically
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Osaea wrote:
Alowwvia wrote:And for every ATGM, there's a guy with a pistol that can kill him for much cheaper.


True. But can the guy with a pistol kill the tank? Only if he's Mattias Nilsson.

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Postby Galla- » Mon May 09, 2011 6:21 pm

United Districts of 1 wrote:
Moriskov wrote:Not if i have my Triple A swatting at your Comanches and have My T100 ogres countering your tanks :)

Meh comanches are stealth equipped so missiles would be rather ineffective. Your tanks would be a problem, are you PMT?


I thought the reason the Comanche was shaped like that was to fit better into ISO containers for shipment...

edit: That and reduced infrared, which has nothing to protect against radar, which sees the giant fucking whirling thing that keeps you flying. Rotary wing aircraft can never be stealthy. Ever.
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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Mon May 09, 2011 6:22 pm

Licana wrote:
United Districts of 1 wrote:Meh comanches are stealth equipped so missiles would be rather ineffective. Your tanks would be a problem, are you PMT?

IIRC Comanche wasn't terribly stealthy.

It is a helicopter. What did you expect?
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Postby Licana » Mon May 09, 2011 6:24 pm

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
Licana wrote:IIRC Comanche wasn't terribly stealthy.

It is a helicopter. What did you expect?

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Vitaphone Racing wrote:Do lets. I really want to hear another explanation about dirty vaginas keeping women out of combat, despite the vagina being a self-cleaning organ.

So was the M-16.

Senestrum wrote:How are KEPs cowardly? Surely the "real man" would in fact be the one firing giant rods of nuclear waste at speeds best described as "hilarious".

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Postby Saurisisia » Mon May 09, 2011 6:25 pm

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
Licana wrote:IIRC Comanche wasn't terribly stealthy.

It is a helicopter. What did you expect?

An attack helicopter, no less.
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Postby Licana » Mon May 09, 2011 6:27 pm

Saurisisia wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:It is a helicopter. What did you expect?

An attack helicopter, no less.

hrrrgggg.

RAH = RECON Attack Helicopter

It's intended role was more like the O/AH-6 than an AH-64.
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Puzikas wrote:Gulf War One was like Slapstick: The War. Except, you know, up to 40,000 people died.

Vitaphone Racing wrote:Never in all my years have I seen someone actually quote the dictionary and still get the definition wrong.

Husseinarti wrote:
Vitaphone Racing wrote:Do lets. I really want to hear another explanation about dirty vaginas keeping women out of combat, despite the vagina being a self-cleaning organ.

So was the M-16.

Senestrum wrote:How are KEPs cowardly? Surely the "real man" would in fact be the one firing giant rods of nuclear waste at speeds best described as "hilarious".

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Postby United Districts of 1 » Mon May 09, 2011 6:28 pm

Licana wrote:
Saurisisia wrote:An attack helicopter, no less.

hrrrgggg.

RAH = RECON Attack Helicopter

It's intended role was more like the O/AH-6

Indeed, Blackfoot is what I actually prefer but comanche seems just a little bit more practical.
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Exactly! He killed a lot of frenchmen- something any englishman should aspire to!
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Postby Bellganamos » Mon May 09, 2011 6:29 pm

IIRC, Comanche and Apache were supposed to work together. The Comanche would laze targets and Apache would go after 'em.
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