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Postby Bajireyn » Wed Sep 08, 2010 12:29 pm

Slauterers wrote:it has two yards of armor on the front and has awesome gun-scopes and is powered by a 3500 hp motor so it can go really fast!

and we don't use money so thats doesn't matter


godmod much?
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Postby Slauterers » Wed Sep 08, 2010 12:31 pm

Bajireyn wrote:
Slauterers wrote:it has two yards of armor on the front and has awesome gun-scopes and is powered by a 3500 hp motor so it can go really fast!

and we don't use money so thats doesn't matter


godmod much?

what does godmod mean?

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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Wed Sep 08, 2010 12:31 pm

Slauterers wrote:it has two yards of armor on the front and has awesome gun-scopes and is powered by a 3500 hp motor so it can go really fast!

and we don't use money so thats doesn't matter

I doubt it has two yards of steel, ceramic, or even Styrofoam armour, or even 2 yards RHAe, since it does not have enough volume, beyond that, you will probably need a bigger engine to make it go fast.
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Postby Dostanuot Loj » Wed Sep 08, 2010 12:32 pm

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
Inutoland wrote:
Slauterers wrote:this is our tank

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Before everyone else says it, "That's a tank destroyer, not an MBT. There's a difference. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_battle_tank."

It is in fact a tank, and as long as that is his main tank, it is his main tank. Its name is the T28 super heavy tank, and it was a turretless tank like the S tank. Truthfully I would have preferred the T30, it may have had less armour, but it was better armed, and lighter.


Technically it's a Gun Motor Carriage, and is the T-95, and there's a huge difference there too.

But that's neither here nor there.
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Postby Slauterers » Wed Sep 08, 2010 12:34 pm

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
Slauterers wrote:it has two yards of armor on the front and has awesome gun-scopes and is powered by a 3500 hp motor so it can go really fast!

and we don't use money so thats doesn't matter

I doubt it has two yards of steel, ceramic, or even Styrofoam armour, or even 2 yards RHAe, since it does not have enough volume, beyond that, you will probably need a bigger engine to make it go fast.

how would you even know the volume if i haven't told you what size it is?

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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Wed Sep 08, 2010 12:34 pm

Dostanuot Loj wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
Inutoland wrote:
Slauterers wrote:this is our tank

Image


Before everyone else says it, "That's a tank destroyer, not an MBT. There's a difference. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_battle_tank."

It is in fact a tank, and as long as that is his main tank, it is his main tank. Its name is the T28 super heavy tank, and it was a turretless tank like the S tank. Truthfully I would have preferred the T30, it may have had less armour, but it was better armed, and lighter.


Technically it's a Gun Motor Carriage, and is the T-95, and there's a huge difference there too.

But that's neither here nor there.

Wikipedia refers to it as both, so meh. Also, don't the concepts of tank and main battle tank have more to do with doctrine than actual design?
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Postby Communist Balkania » Wed Sep 08, 2010 12:37 pm

We use a combo of 2 Scorpiov light tanks to escort 1 Tsar heavy tank

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Postby Carpathosylvania » Wed Sep 08, 2010 12:40 pm

The leopard 24A, PT 91.

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Postby Pashtunia » Wed Sep 08, 2010 12:45 pm

The T-34/85:

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The T-55:

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And the T-72:

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Postby Bajireyn » Wed Sep 08, 2010 1:46 pm

Slauterers wrote:
Bajireyn wrote:
Slauterers wrote:it has two yards of armor on the front and has awesome gun-scopes and is powered by a 3500 hp motor so it can go really fast!

and we don't use money so thats doesn't matter


godmod much?

what does godmod mean?

:palm: it means to do something impossible even in NS
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Postby The Corparation » Wed Sep 08, 2010 2:21 pm

Communist Balkania wrote:We use a combo of 2 Scorpiov light tanks to escort 1 Tsar heavy tank

Scorpiov:
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Tsar:
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Top great cheap easy to maintain light tank.
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Postby Slauterers » Wed Sep 08, 2010 2:40 pm

Bajireyn wrote:
Slauterers wrote:
Bajireyn wrote:
Slauterers wrote:it has two yards of armor on the front and has awesome gun-scopes and is powered by a 3500 hp motor so it can go really fast!

and we don't use money so thats doesn't matter


godmod much?

what does godmod mean?

:palm: it means to do something impossible even in NS

well what's impossible about it?

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Postby Mikedor » Wed Sep 08, 2010 2:44 pm

Slauterers wrote:
Bajireyn wrote:
Slauterers wrote:
Bajireyn wrote:
Slauterers wrote:it has two yards of armor on the front and has awesome gun-scopes and is powered by a 3500 hp motor so it can go really fast!

and we don't use money so thats doesn't matter


godmod much?

what does godmod mean?

:palm: it means to do something impossible even in NS

well what's impossible about it?

If it had 2 yards or RHA equivalent of armour, the space inside would be absolutely tiny.
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Postby Slauterers » Wed Sep 08, 2010 2:48 pm

why would that be a problem if the tank was long?

besides ive seen tanks on here with like three meters or something silly like that

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Postby The Corparation » Wed Sep 08, 2010 2:54 pm

The M-1 has 1,320–1,620 millimetres of armor. But thats only the thickest part of the front of the turret.
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Postby Strykla » Wed Sep 08, 2010 3:00 pm

Slauterers wrote:why would that be a problem if the tank was long?

besides ive seen tanks on here with like three meters or something silly like that

There's also logistics to contend with. The cost of making lots of giant tanks, plus maintaining them, plus getting crews, plus ammo, etc.
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Postby Slauterers » Wed Sep 08, 2010 3:01 pm

well this one has up to 3500mm of armor so i dont see why mine isnt reasonable

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4636&p=141717#p141717

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Postby Varayusha » Wed Sep 08, 2010 3:02 pm

Slauterers wrote:why would that be a problem if the tank was long?

besides ive seen tanks on here with like three meters or something silly like that

If it's large enough to have room inside for, uh, everything besides the armor... then the armor will weigh it down to the point of immobility. And just adding horsepower, at that point, will do nothing but over-stress the drivetrain.

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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Wed Sep 08, 2010 3:09 pm

Slauterers wrote:well this one has up to 3500mm of armor so i dont see why mine isnt reasonable

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4636&p=141717#p141717

I believe Sumer already mentioned something about those numbers being unrealistic, and wanting to either change or remove them. Also, those tanks have layered armour, with steel (or titanium in some cases), ceramics (of various kinds), DU mesh (or tungsten sometimes), a Kevlar spall liner (I think Lyras uses spider silk or something), explosive reactive armour (which blows away shape charges, and can snap APFSDS), and sometimes none explosive reactive armour, which uses rubber which expands after impact instead of explosives. When I did a review of the Mammoth (mammoth III I believe), it only had 1 kind of actual armour, and something that hardens it against EMPs, it was a shell trap, and it has no commander's weapon, so overall it is useless, since a single soldier could sneak up on it and toss a grenade in.
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Postby Free Vancouver Island » Wed Sep 08, 2010 3:32 pm

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The glorious FT-17 is superior to all. All, I tell you!

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Postby Satirius » Wed Sep 08, 2010 3:49 pm

Free Vancouver Island wrote:Image
The glorious FT-17 is superior to all. All, I tell you!

Do not challenge glorious Ontos

Especially once you put an autoloader on it
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Postby -the Ukrainian SSR- » Wed Sep 08, 2010 3:52 pm

What's an autoloader?

The Ukrainian Union uses the IS-3 Heavy Tank as their main line tank [notice I didn't say MBT, I said main line]
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Postby Free Vancouver Island » Wed Sep 08, 2010 3:55 pm

Satirius wrote:
Free Vancouver Island wrote:Image
The glorious FT-17 is superior to all. All, I tell you!

Do not challenge glorious Ontos

Especially once you put an autoloader on it

Ontos cannot into early 1900s
So it's the best tank as far as we care.

-The Ukrainian SSR- wrote:What's an autoloader?

The Ukrainian Union uses the IS-3 Heavy Tank as their main line tank [notice I didn't say MBT, I said main line]

For MT, if it's modernized (miricle ceramics and loltive reactive armor) that's one badass muthafuka of a tank.

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Postby -the Ukrainian SSR- » Wed Sep 08, 2010 3:56 pm

They are modernized, nERA and ERA, 103mm still; new engines. : )

Still serious about that other question though: What's an autoloader?
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Postby -the Ukrainian SSR- » Wed Sep 08, 2010 3:57 pm

Canadai wrote:
-The Ukrainian SSR- wrote:They are modernized, nERA and ERA, 103mm still; new engines. : )

Still serious about that other question though: What's an autoloader?

How much are you selling them for

(autoloader is a machine that puts shells into the gun, no loading guy)


Er...Hadn't thought of selling them actually. And thank you; -Can't use those sadly, IS isn't big enough.-
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