NS infantry discussion thread. Mark II

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

I present

The Fishgun 9000

(actually called the XM6A3E1)

Essentially designed to bring 7.62x32 to a full sized carbine, specifically for the civilian market, the XM6A3E1 is a modified M6A3 with a longer barrel, fixed stock, and full length handguard. While it is possible to make a pseudoXM6A3E1 by giving a normal M6A3 the barrel and stock of the E1, the handguards are not interchangeable. Fire selector stands for "Flounder" and "Salmon".

Not bad overall, but it isn't near as fishy looking as you claim.

[Sediczja]

I present

The Fishgun 9000

(actually called the XM6A3E1)

Essentially designed to bring 7.62x32 to a full sized carbine, specifically for the civilian market, the XM6A3E1 is a modified M6A3 with a longer barrel, fixed stock, and full length handguard. While it is possible to make a pseudoXM6A3E1 by giving a normal M6A3 the barrel and stock of the E1, the handguards are not interchangeable. Fire selector stands for "Flounder" and "Salmon".

Nice, if in need of a little detail in the front end.

[Imperializt Russia]

7.62 Tok MP9 / TP9 instead of pistols y/y/y ?

Replacing them as your standard sidearm or redefining what your pistol is there to do?
Cost, giggle switch, weight etc.

my first try to drawn something in JG scale.
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USBN marine wielding an FA03A4 rifle.

He's aiming too high for a normal fighting stance.

Fighting positions?

Only acceptable fighting position.

Yes, that is a sandbagged trench on top of a Mech.
You all need this game.

(Iron Brigade)

Yet moar. I'm not totally sure about the carry handle...

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What's that handguard based on? Gave me some fond, fuzzy memories back to finally drawing out a handguard for the Rottweiler I actually liked :3
Also, what're the purpose of those rings coming off the magwell and stock? Rivet points?

The carry handle also looks nice and awesome presently, even if you don't keep it.

Also HNNNGGG the front sight.

You might be able to tell, this is the response to four different posts, I'm having to change the quote each time

I would be highly interested in throwing this weapon to my not-post-revolution-UK alt because of its slight EM-2 and L64/85 similarities.

I present

The Fishgun 9000

(actually called the XM6A3E1)

Essentially designed to bring 7.62x32 to a full sized carbine, specifically for the civilian market, the XM6A3E1 is a modified M6A3 with a longer barrel, fixed stock, and full length handguard. While it is possible to make a pseudoXM6A3E1 by giving a normal M6A3 the barrel and stock of the E1, the handguards are not interchangeable. Fire selector stands for "Flounder" and "Salmon".

It would work better if that stock shape were folding, I imagine. Or if you used a conventional-looking folding stock.

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Now with Uberbreak

That, combined with the relatively long bolt travel, straight-line layout and FG42-style buffer should make felt recoil negligible, especially with an intermediate.

I like it.

It's ugly, but in an exotic and functional sort of way, like the Bren for instance.

Well, the BR-EN was Czech

[Mozria]

Guys, I am trying to embrace smaller calibers than my previous super-recoiling rape-train round, but it's really hard. How does 8.25 x 55 mm sound to you?

That's not a small caliber, that's a sniper cartridge at best, and even then seems a bit overpowered for the role.

Read up on the later post, Beno. I have now opted for 7.2 x 48 mm as a universal cartridge for my rifles, DMRs and GPMGs.

[Bezombia]

That's not a small caliber, that's a sniper cartridge at best, and even then seems a bit overpowered for the role.

Read up on the later post, Beno. I have now opted for 7.2 x 48 mm as a universal cartridge for my rifles, DMRs and GPMGs.

Ah.

[Mozria]

What could I still use 10.42 x 60 mm in? I don't want to completely abandon it, so could I put it in sniper rifles and not-so-heavy heavy machine guns?

[Bezombia]

What could I still use 10.42 x 60 mm in? I don't want to completely abandon it, so could I put it in sniper rifles and not-so-heavy heavy machine guns?

Give the case another 12mm and you've got yourself an HMG/Sniper/low power AMR cartridge.

[Mozria]

What could I still use 10.42 x 60 mm in? I don't want to completely abandon it, so could I put it in sniper rifles and not-so-heavy heavy machine guns?

Give the case another 12mm and you've got yourself an HMG/Sniper/low power AMR cartridge.

Well, my idea was for it to be based on an older cartridge used in MMGs and other stuff several decades ago, but was kept around much like the antiquated 7.62 x 54 mm R. In that case, I would say that in mounted MGs and (perhaps) heavy rifles it could certainly be of use.

Is this presumption correct?

[Bezombia]

Give the case another 12mm and you've got yourself an HMG/Sniper/low power AMR cartridge.

Well, my idea was for it to be based on an older cartridge used in MMGs and other stuff several decades ago, but was kept around much like the antiquated 7.62 x 54 mm R. In that case, I would say that in mounted MGs and (perhaps) heavy rifles it could certainly be of use.

Is this presumption correct?

Well for one thing the 7.62x54mmR isn't antiquated.
And yes your presumption would be correct. With the right bullet design and the right powder charge, I can see that being a rather potent heavy rifle cartridge.

[Mozria]

Well, my idea was for it to be based on an older cartridge used in MMGs and other stuff several decades ago, but was kept around much like the antiquated 7.62 x 54 mm R. In that case, I would say that in mounted MGs and (perhaps) heavy rifles it could certainly be of use.

Is this presumption correct?

Well for one thing the 7.62x54mmR isn't antiquated.
And yes your presumption would be correct. With the right bullet design and the right powder charge, I can see that being a rather potent heavy rifle cartridge.

You don't remember the whole discussion we had about my cartridge, or its statistics? Well, I can fix that if I can find and quote my posts.

Also, the 7.62 x 54 mm R is definitely antiquated. It is, first and foremost, a rimmed cartridge. This inherently makes it less suitable for autoloading firearms and can cause malfunctions in the best of mechanisms. Second, it has been aroud since the 1890s, so if that doesn't make it old, I do not know what does.

[Imperializt Russia]

It's been in service for more than a century, that is kind of "antiquated".
The key point is that antiquated is not "bad".

IIRC you can drastically reduce FTFs for rimmed firearms by taking care when loading magazines to overlap rims in the correct order. The BREN managed fine.

[Yes Im Biop]

I loved Iron Brigaed.

Okay guys. My buddy has made a few lead headed bullets with a steel core. SHould I test em? They are all hot loads at this point

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

I loved Iron Brigaed.

Wasn't it that one Japanese game with the ridiculous mech cockpit/controller thing that you could buy?

Okay guys. My buddy has made a few lead headed bullets with a steel core. SHould I test em? They are all hot loads at this point

I don't offhand see why not.

[Black Hand]

It's been in service for more than a century, that is kind of "antiquated".
The key point is that antiquated is not "bad".

IIRC you can drastically reduce FTFs for rimmed firearms by taking care when loading magazines to overlap rims in the correct order. The BREN managed fine.

the only reason the BHDC no longer uses 7.62x54R is that it was replaced with 7.62x55 which is essentially identical just de rimmed with a conventional base

[Imperializt Russia]

I loved Iron Brigaed.

Wasn't it that one Japanese game with the ridiculous mech cockpit/controller thing that you could buy?

I don't think it's Japanese.
It's a dieselpunk game set in like the 30s or something.

Are you thinking of Chrome Hounds?

[Sediczja]

Wasn't it that one Japanese game with the ridiculous mech cockpit/controller thing that you could buy?

I think that was Steel Battalion.

[Hodori]

Wasn't it that one Japanese game with the ridiculous mech cockpit/controller thing that you could buy?

I don't think it's Japanese.
It's a dieselpunk game set in like the 30s or something.

Are you thinking of Chrome Hounds?

He's thinking of Steel Battalion, developed by Capcom.
Chromehounds is also Japanese (From Software).

[Imperializt Russia]

Well, Iron Brigade is an XBL Arcade title, maybe it's an intentional resemblance?

[Sediczja]

Well, Iron Brigade is an XBL Arcade title, maybe it's an intentional resemblance?

Could be.

Anyone know if there was ever a firing real-steel replica of the M2019 pistol from Blade Runner made? I can only find non-firing and airsoft.

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

I think that was Steel Battalion.

Yep, that was the one.

[Black Hand]

For mechanized infantry would 4 APC's (HMG armed) and a single IFV(Autocannon, coaxial HMG and ATGM) make sense for a platoon? Each squad has an APC and the command team has the IFV.

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

For mechanized infantry would 4 APC's (HMG armed) and a single IFV(Autocannon, coaxial HMG and ATGM) make sense for a platoon? Each squad has an APC and the command team has the IFV.

Erm. . . while I am the first to admit that I have no experience with mechanized platoon organization, I'd be willing to bet that 5 AFVs is way too many. Try for two.

[Mozria]

You don't remember the whole discussion we had about my cartridge, or its statistics? Well, I can fix that if I can find and quote my posts.

Cartridge, Caliber 10.42 mm, BRC-3301A

Case Type: Bottleneck, rimless (copper-washed steel)
Bullet Diameter: 10.54 mm
Bullet Length: 17.25 mm
Seating Depth: 8.38 mm
Neck Diameter: 12.24 mm
Shoulder Diameter: 15.10 mm
Base Diameter: 15.35 mm
Rim Diameter: 14.45 mm
Rim thickness: 1.43 mm
Case Length: 60 mm
Cartridge Length: 91.45 mm
Case Capacity: 85 grains
Case Load: 65 grains
Rifling Twist: 1:435 mm
Projectile Type/Weight: copper-jacketed ball, 300 grains
Primer Type: Mozrian Long Rifle V/18S
Maximum Pressure: ~54,000 CUP / 66,000 psi
Velocity at Muzzle: ~820 meters/second
Muzzle Energy: ~6,100 joules *
100 meters: ~5,700 joules *
200 meters: ~4,950 joules *
300 meters: ~4,350 joules *

* Test barrel length: 675 millimeters

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EDIT: Sorry, just realized that I put out the stats that had outdated numbers. Just fixed them, I think.

[Imperializt Russia]

Makes your command section easy to spot.

[The Akasha Colony]

For mechanized infantry would 4 APC's (HMG armed) and a single IFV(Autocannon, coaxial HMG and ATGM) make sense for a platoon? Each squad has an APC and the command team has the IFV.

Erm. . . while I am the first to admit that I have no experience with mechanized platoon organization, I'd be willing to bet that 5 AFVs is way too many. Try for two.

Well, if the entire point is to provide transport for the platoon, you either need two extremely large AFVs to cram two squads into each or have half the platoon walking. 4-5 AFVs is about right to mechanize a platoon.