NS infantry discussion thread. Mark II

[The Republic of Lanos]

my first try to drawn something in JG scale.
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USBN marine wielding an FA03A4 rifle.

He's aiming too high for a normal fighting stance.

Fighting positions?

[United states of brazilian nations]

my first try to drawn something in JG scale.
(Image)
USBN marine wielding an FA03A4 rifle.

He's aiming too high for a normal fighting stance.

noted.

ran the round through ballistic calculator and dunno how to read this chart.

either that site is fucking kidding me, or this round apparently loses energy faster than a goddamn X-15 can fly, and drops like a wrecking ball made of lead dropped from a 10-store building.

[The Brooke Dynasty]

Thinking of using a basic 3:1 ratio of 5.56mm NATO ARs to 7.62mm NATO GPMGs. Each infantry section being eight men, divided into two sticks of four each. Each stick would consist of the following:

Stick Leader - Pindad SS2, Browning Hi-Power
Grenadier - Pindad SS2-V1 w/ Pindad SPG-1A UBGL
Rifleman - Pindad SS2, extra 7.62mm bandolier
Machinegunner - FN MAG

Looks good to me, but why not the SS3? Bullpup will serve you better when maneuvering in jungle.

Mostly for the Pindad UGBL, which only fits the full size SS2-V1 rifle. I will consider either issuing SS2-V2 carbines, or SS3 bullpup to the stick leader and rifleman.

Also, pistol for the machinegunner?

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

Stop.
Puz time.

After a protracted errand spree I was able to see through the HK fanboy silliness, and accept the truth. In it's present state, and to the best of my knowledge, the 4.6mm HK is indeed inferior to the 5.7mm FN.

I read the up on the competition/study, and, while I suspect it may have been slightly biased against the 4.6mm, it seems fairly conclusive.

Thanks for the laugh too Puz.

[Bezombia]

Stop.
Puz time.

After a protracted errand spree I was able to see through the HK fanboy silliness, and accept the truth. In it's present state, and to the best of my knowledge, the 4.6mm HK is indeed inferior to the 5.7mm FN.

I read the up on the competition/study, and, while I suspect it may have been slightly biased against the 4.6mm, it seems fairly conclusive.

Thanks for the laugh too Puz.

Don't forget that the 5.7x28mm FN is also vastly inferior to glorious 7.62x32mm Shipunov

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

Don't forget that the 5.7x28mm FN is also vastly inferior to glorious 7.62x32mm Shipunov

Wasn't that Puz's attempt at a PDW cartridge that turned into a compact intermediate?

[Premislyd]

Don't forget that the 5.7x28mm FN is also vastly inferior to glorious 7.62x32mm Shipunov

Wasn't that Puz's attempt at a PDW cartridge that turned into a compact intermediate?

Yes. Apparently it's been made open even though it's strictly a TF cartridge...

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

Yes. Apparently it's been made open even though it's strictly a TF cartridge...

Is it a TF exclusive?, I figured you guys just kept TF and non TF items separate to avoid confusion.

[The Republic of Lanos]

Yes. Apparently it's been made open even though it's strictly a TF cartridge...

Is it a TF exclusive?, I figured you guys just kept TF and non TF items separate to avoid confusion.

We don't know why Beno decided to start using it outside of our realm.

[Nua Corda]

Yes. Apparently it's been made open even though it's strictly a TF cartridge...

Is it a TF exclusive?, I figured you guys just kept TF and non TF items separate to avoid confusion.

If my position as the former founder carries any weight at all, no, it's not. There was no rule that TF stuff couldn't be used outside of TF. I know my old storefront was universal. But, maybe that's changed since I left.

In other news, FGeratPup marches on.

[Bezombia]

I'll see if I can dig it up now. All I remember is Puz saying something about a really short cartridge with a really long range, I took a look at the ballistics chart that was posted, asked him if I could adopt it and he said yes.
This was in like thread eight or nine, maybe even earlier.

[Fordorsia]

Is it a TF exclusive?, I figured you guys just kept TF and non TF items separate to avoid confusion.

If my position as the former founder carries any weight at all, no, it's not. There was no rule that TF stuff couldn't be used outside of TF. I know my old storefront was universal. But, maybe that's changed since I left.

In other news, FGeratPup marches on.

Sweet Satan. This isn't how you draw all your stuff, is it?

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

We don't know why Beno decided to start using it outside of our realm.

Based on previous observations, I'd guess because it's a)7.62mm + in diameter, and b) promises high velocities.

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In other news, FGeratPup marches on.

(Image)

I'd about forgotten how good your art was.

[Puzikas]

Let me save you all the trouble:

Anything I posted in the tread was always open source. If you wanted to use the idea it was normally a "just ask me" deal. 7.62 Shipunov (7.62x32) is basically a PDW-intermediate cartridge I made based off the 7.62x25 Tok. principal of high speed, low weight. Its principal purpose was to replace 5.45x39 in my military (because I use 7.62x39 as a mainline). Its got a good set of balls on it, with its principal drawbacks being its very loud and is not as compact as, say, 4.6x30 or 5.7x28. Its overall length is 44mm and its bullet weight is 90gr as standard and it has a MV of something like 720-750 m/s.

[Nua Corda]

If my position as the former founder carries any weight at all, no, it's not. There was no rule that TF stuff couldn't be used outside of TF. I know my old storefront was universal. But, maybe that's changed since I left.

In other news, FGeratPup marches on.

Sweet Satan. This isn't how you draw all your stuff, is it?

Depends on how lazy I am. Sometimes I do it just flat, like this;



Sometimes I do all the parts.

Moar;

[Bezombia]

Sweet Satan. This isn't how you draw all your stuff, is it?

Depends on how lazy I am. Sometimes I do it just flat, like this;



Sometimes I do all the parts.

Moar;

Looking great as usual, Corda. Sorta reminds me of the Sterling 308 in a weird way.

[Fordorsia]

Sweet Satan. This isn't how you draw all your stuff, is it?

Depends on how lazy I am. Sometimes I do it just flat, like this;



Sometimes I do all the parts.

Moar;

I wanna be like you when I grow up, but better.

How many layers do you usually end up making?

[Nua Corda]

Depends on how lazy I am. Sometimes I do it just flat, like this;



Sometimes I do all the parts.

Moar;

I wanna be like you when I grow up, but better.

How many layers do you usually end up making?

Depends on the weapon in question. Generally, I'll have three base layers for all the component groups. Each group is an Object with some layers of its own, and then each part has an Object, which may or may not have layers. It can get pretty crazy.

Yet moar. I'm not totally sure about the carry handle...

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

Yet moar. I'm not totally sure about the carry handle...

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Neither am I. Perhaps something closer to the FAMAS or QBZ-95?

I can't help but feel that I really need to upgrade from MS paint.
inb4benosuggestsgimp

[Kouralia]

So... Standard optics of your men: what are they?

Every Kouralian soldier receives a Specialised Optic (Spec Op) system which has a 4x zoom, and can be set for ranges of up to 800m.

[Fordorsia]

I wanna be like you when I grow up, but better.

How many layers do you usually end up making?

Depends on the weapon in question. Generally, I'll have three base layers for all the component groups. Each group is an Object with some layers of its own, and then each part has an Object, which may or may not have layers. It can get pretty crazy.

Yet moar. I'm not totally sure about the carry handle...

Yeah, I won't even try and figure that out or try it myself.
Well, the carry handle matches the aesthetics of the rifle. Definitely looks prototypish.


In other news/question. What sort of range could a 1. caliber musket with a long fucking barrel reach out to? It will start out firing round balls, then change to Minnie balls.

[Sediczja]

So... Standard optics of your men: what are they?

Every Kouralian soldier receives a Specialised Optic (Spec Op) system which has a 4x zoom, and can be set for ranges of up to 800m.

Iron sights coupled with Eyeball Mk. I

[Nua Corda]

There's no point putting Minnie balls in a musket. The whole point of them is to make the bullet expand and engage the rifling when fired so you can muzzle-load them quickly.

So... Standard optics of your men: what are they?

Every Kouralian soldier receives a Specialised Optic (Spec Op) system which has a 4x zoom, and can be set for ranges of up to 800m.

[The Republic of Lanos]

So... Standard optics of your men: what are they?

For standard combat troops, Lanosians use the drum sights on their M50 rifles (SG 550) aimed out to 300m (or the 3 setting on the sight). Some soldiers are issued M68 Close Combat Optics for use in close quarters fighting, however that is the exception not the norm. For night fighting, the soldier sets the dial to 100m (or 1) and flips up the night front sight. The 1 setting and the night post has tritium illumination for this purpose. For marksman rifles, an adjustable-zoom 4x24 scope is issued for this purpose. Regulations forbid the rear sight from ever being removed (plus it's welded on to the rifle). For grenadiers, the special grenade rear sight is simply added on the rear sight assembly after attachment of the grenade launcher, doing away with any zeroing upon installation.

Other optics approved by DoD are allowed and issued accordingly but that's for Special Forces and the like.

[Fordorsia]

There's no point putting Minnie balls in a musket. The whole point of them is to make the bullet expand and engage the rifling when fired so you can muzzle-load them quickly.

So... Standard optics of your men: what are they?

Every Kouralian soldier receives a Specialised Optic (Spec Op) system which has a 4x zoom, and can be set for ranges of up to 800m.

So, I should just give it a rifled barrel along with the Minnie ball?