NS infantry discussion thread. Mark II

[Bezombia]

I really must question the practicality of using a rifle as blood pressure

A rifle can be used to eliminate high blood pressure.

No, no the rifle is the blood pressure.

[Aqizithiuda]

The LWMMG's patent.

[Fordorsia]

A rifle can be used to eliminate high blood pressure.

No, no the rifle is the blood pressure.

What does that even mean?

[Sevvania]

You would have to undertake either a significant structural redesign of the AK platform, or change the barrel at some point along its length which interfaces with the chamber.
Neither's a great choice.

Though the SKS had some pinned and some screw barrels so who knows, it might be possible. But you would need to design a new screw-fix AK barrel.

Speaking of the SKS. Could I make a RPK style drum fed LMG/SAW based on it?

I wanted to do something similar a while back. I believe Puzikas told me that, due to the weight of the SKS's bolt, it would have something like 40% more recoil in full-auto than the RPK.

[Spreewerke]

Did a brief snow test of my notAK-103 just now. Figured today would be good day to into AK-103 shooting. Anyway, in my area, we have about 6-8" of powdery snow over everything at the lowest. Drifts getting a bit higher, but I'd say ~7" is average overall. Test consisted of the following: I fired five rounds at a blank backstop from approximately 80m from inside a shed (dem acoustics), the shockwave of which sent ice and snow falling off the roof and walls. I then jogged up to about 65m distance from the backstop and fired five more round kneeling. I advanced in the same fashion until I was about 35m from the backstop and fired while kneeling with my off-hand (left-handed). Again, five rounds before advancing and going prone at ~25m distance from the backstop. I went prone because I wished to both get in some prone fire practice, but also see how much snow would be thrown by the muzzle brake. In my one-time experience, not a ton of snow was thrown by the gases, but it was enough being thrown to be noticeable. I believe the bottom of the brake is wide enough that it really isn't a problem. The gases from the left side indented the snow while the right side did not, so perhaps I had the rifle slightly canted, as well. Anyway, this is where the snow test came in. I laid the now-warm rifle down in the snow I had gone prone in. I popped out the magazine and retrieved the box of cartridges from my pocket and opened it. I set it on top of the snow. Almost. It sank to the bottom, and I had already taken my gloves off, so I dug after it. Managed to get it and set it lightly in the snow to where it wasn't at the bottom, at least. Proceeded to load cartridges into the magazine by-hand, sans gloves. Dropped one and fished for it for quite some time, but it got in there. Meanwhile, snow had fallen into the box of cartridges. As I was loading them into the magazine, the casings were freezing to my fingertips by the time I had them in the magazine. I loaded the magazine fully and tossed it into the ~6" deep snow. I then focused my attention on my rifle that had ice on it due to the melted snow refreezing on it. I tossed it into the 6" deep snow, as well, safety off, both sides. The muzzle brake's main ports were crammed with snow, the ejection port and charging handle cut-out were filled, trigger guard was solid, magazine well was filled, etc., etc. I then loaded the magazine and chambered the weapon. Since my sights were blocked by snow, I point-shot. I also commenced immediate "lol"ing due to all the snow, ice, and water that flew out of every orifice of the weapon as soon as I fired the first round. It blew pretty much all of the snow off and out of the weapon, and the muzzle brake was like-new again. I proceeded to magdump while advancing on-target.

Would have taken photos, but I honestly have no idea where my camera is right now.

Does anyone happen to know how exactly I would make an RPK that can have it's barrel changed? Any ways that you know of to lower heat-up and increase durability?

The barrel trunnion is riveted into the receiver itself. Unless you severely modify the design (pretty much removing anything that makes it an RPK), you're not getting a quick-change RPK.

Does anyone happen to know how exactly I would make an RPK that can have it's barrel changed? Any ways that you know of to lower heat-up and increase durability?

You would have to undertake either a significant structural redesign of the AK platform, or change the barrel at some point along its length which interfaces with the chamber.
Neither's a great choice.

Though the SKS had some pinned and some screw barrels so who knows, it might be possible. But you would need to design a new screw-fix AK barrel.

Not quite how screw-in barrels work. Mosin barrels are screwed into place, but you can bet they definitely aren't quick-change. Ditto for Remington 700s, etc. Pinned barrels require a hydraulic press to pin/unpin.

You would have to undertake either a significant structural redesign of the AK platform, or change the barrel at some point along its length which interfaces with the chamber.
Neither's a great choice.

Though the SKS had some pinned and some screw barrels so who knows, it might be possible. But you would need to design a new screw-fix AK barrel.

Speaking of the SKS. Could I make a RPK style drum fed LMG/SAW based on it?

[Sevvania]

(Image)

"Thou prepareth a rifle for me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointeth me with superior firepower; my ammo runneth over."

[Doppio Giudici]

Well, let's see if what I did was any good....

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/357/5/8/k_by_tevo77777-d6z3y9x.png

[Bezombia]

No, no the rifle is the blood pressure.

What does that even mean?

I have absolutely no idea.
Which is why I'm extremely confused as to how it ended up as a description of the AO-31-7.

[Black Hand]

A better question is why would you want to when you could base it on the obviously superior Type 81?

Because of Purpelia.

entirely possible that purpelia developed a IAR before it was cool. easy to do. It would just have to be integrated to the reciever in the same manner as the SKS magazine. So change the very top a bit

[Bezombia]

Because of Purpelia.

entirely possible that purpelia developed a IAR before it was cool. easy to do. It would just have to be integrated to the reciever in the same manner as the SKS magazine. So change the very top a bit

Or you could just base it on the SKSM and use normal RPK magazines.

[San-Silvacian]

Did a brief snow test of my notAK-103 just now. Figured today would be good day to into AK-103 shooting. Anyway, in my area, we have about 6-8" of powdery snow over everything at the lowest. Drifts getting a bit higher, but I'd say ~7" is average overall. Test consisted of the following: I fired five rounds at a blank backstop from approximately 80m from inside a shed (dem acoustics), the shockwave of which sent ice and snow falling off the roof and walls. I then jogged up to about 65m distance from the backstop and fired five more round kneeling. I advanced in the same fashion until I was about 35m from the backstop and fired while kneeling with my off-hand (left-handed). Again, five rounds before advancing and going prone at ~25m distance from the backstop. I went prone because I wished to both get in some prone fire practice, but also see how much snow would be thrown by the muzzle brake. In my one-time experience, not a ton of snow was thrown by the gases, but it was enough being thrown to be noticeable. I believe the bottom of the brake is wide enough that it really isn't a problem. The gases from the left side indented the snow while the right side did not, so perhaps I had the rifle slightly canted, as well. Anyway, this is where the snow test came in. I laid the now-warm rifle down in the snow I had gone prone in. I popped out the magazine and retrieved the box of cartridges from my pocket and opened it. I set it on top of the snow. Almost. It sank to the bottom, and I had already taken my gloves off, so I dug after it. Managed to get it and set it lightly in the snow to where it wasn't at the bottom, at least. Proceeded to load cartridges into the magazine by-hand, sans gloves. Dropped one and fished for it for quite some time, but it got in there. Meanwhile, snow had fallen into the box of cartridges. As I was loading them into the magazine, the casings were freezing to my fingertips by the time I had them in the magazine. I loaded the magazine fully and tossed it into the ~6" deep snow. I then focused my attention on my rifle that had ice on it due to the melted snow refreezing on it. I tossed it into the 6" deep snow, as well, safety off, both sides. The muzzle brake's main ports were crammed with snow, the ejection port and charging handle cut-out were filled, trigger guard was solid, magazine well was filled, etc., etc. I then loaded the magazine and chambered the weapon. Since my sights were blocked by snow, I point-shot. I also commenced immediate "lol"ing due to all the snow, ice, and water that flew out of every orifice of the weapon as soon as I fired the first round. It blew pretty much all of the snow off and out of the weapon, and the muzzle brake was like-new again. I proceeded to magdump while advancing on-target.

I hate your state.

With a fiery passion.

[Gallia-]

It was closer to 5-6" on average, not 6-8" or whatever.

It was also more like powder on top of packed snow. By the time it was 6" there was already a pretty solid 4" of packed ice and snow, so there was really only 2" of powder tbh. Of course my lawn isn't a potential snowdrift, so maybe it's different where Spree lives. Maybe he lives further south than me, somehow.

[Aqizithiuda]

Time for another episode of "Aqi googles stuff and finds out something interesting"!

I found this page a while ago while looking for stuff on SCIMTR flechettes. I couldn't really find out anything on it at the time, so I more or less dismissed it as being RPG wank. And then I found this patent today. As it turns out, while the description on the first site was wrong, the concept was right and the picture probably came from the program that spawned the patent or else was related to it. A more recent patent has the same idea, but with more of an eye towards mass production and easier manufacture.

That's not the most interesting thing I found though. Someone decided to apply the principle to a more aerodynamic projectile, and added a tiny little motor to help overcome drag. They even has what appears to be computer predicted results and comparisons with other long range projectiles. If you don't take it with a pinch of salt, you could say that anyone wearing body armour is in big trouble.

Which brings me to a patent referenced by this super-AP projectile. Contrary to an earlier study, drag doesn't appear to have been too bad, at least analytically, and accuracy was much improved over conventional flechette designs.

What does all this mean? It's possible, within NS tech standards, at least, to have a sub caliber projectile with a L:D ratio of more than 6:1 that can be fired from either a rifled or smoothbore gun and penetrate modern body armour.

Now, with that in mind, how do people think personal and vehicular armour would change if such projectiles were mass produced and issued?

[Gallia-]

Very little to not at all.

[Aqizithiuda]

Very little to not at all.

It might change for those who issue heavy plates, however. There would probably also be an increase in vehicle weight as armour is added, depending on how much the government in question cared about public opinion and whether or not private industry wanted to sell the armour upgrades and had lobbying power.

[Rich and Corporations]

Seeing how police brutality angers me a lot, I'd like to have my riot police uniforms incorporate some sort of unique identifier such as a unique number, although I was wondering if there exists some sort of marker more easily and reliably recognizable in poor quality videos (such as improper filming angle, low resolution, poor contrast/lighting/etc, only a portion of the marker appearing on film, etc.) Can someone point me in the right direction? Has this been tried before?

QR codes.

[Imperializt Russia]

Time for another episode of "Aqi googles stuff and finds out something interesting"!

I found this page a while ago while looking for stuff on SCIMTR flechettes. I couldn't really find out anything on it at the time, so I more or less dismissed it as being RPG wank. And then I found this patent today. As it turns out, while the description on the first site was wrong, the concept was right and the picture probably came from the program that spawned the patent or else was related to it. A more recent patent has the same idea, but with more of an eye towards mass production and easier manufacture.

That's not the most interesting thing I found though. Someone decided to apply the principle to a more aerodynamic projectile, and added a tiny little motor to help overcome drag. They even has what appears to be computer predicted results and comparisons with other long range projectiles. If you don't take it with a pinch of salt, you could say that anyone wearing body armour is in big trouble.

Which brings me to a patent referenced by this super-AP projectile. Contrary to an earlier study, drag doesn't appear to have been too bad, at least analytically, and accuracy was much improved over conventional flechette designs.

What does all this mean? It's possible, within NS tech standards, at least, to have a sub caliber projectile with a L:D ratio of more than 6:1 that can be fired from either a rifled or smoothbore gun and penetrate modern body armour.

Now, with that in mind, how do people think personal and vehicular armour would change if such projectiles were mass produced and issued?

Now, if only I could understand legalese

[Aqizithiuda]

Time for another episode of "Aqi googles stuff and finds out something interesting"!

I found this page a while ago while looking for stuff on SCIMTR flechettes. I couldn't really find out anything on it at the time, so I more or less dismissed it as being RPG wank. And then I found this patent today. As it turns out, while the description on the first site was wrong, the concept was right and the picture probably came from the program that spawned the patent or else was related to it. A more recent patent has the same idea, but with more of an eye towards mass production and easier manufacture.

That's not the most interesting thing I found though. Someone decided to apply the principle to a more aerodynamic projectile, and added a tiny little motor to help overcome drag. They even has what appears to be computer predicted results and comparisons with other long range projectiles. If you don't take it with a pinch of salt, you could say that anyone wearing body armour is in big trouble.

Which brings me to a patent referenced by this super-AP projectile. Contrary to an earlier study, drag doesn't appear to have been too bad, at least analytically, and accuracy was much improved over conventional flechette designs.

What does all this mean? It's possible, within NS tech standards, at least, to have a sub caliber projectile with a L:D ratio of more than 6:1 that can be fired from either a rifled or smoothbore gun and penetrate modern body armour.

Now, with that in mind, how do people think personal and vehicular armour would change if such projectiles were mass produced and issued?

Now, if only I could understand legalese

- Heavy weight in front of the projectile, light weight at the rear = stable flight without the need of spin or fins.
- Flared base = stable flight without need of spin or fins

[Bezombia]

Wait a minute, is there any consensus on whether or not something like EXACTO would even function like it's intended to?

[Imperializt Russia]

The "more aerodynamic projectile" patent was quite confusing. It has an equation with two terms for diameter. It appears to show a cone-shaped projectile with a small frustrum base with deployable fins, and what might be a subcalibre munition inside its base.

I guess that one diameter term was referring to its submunition and the "maximum diamater" term to the base of the main cone?

[Aqizithiuda]

The "more aerodynamic projectile" patent was quite confusing. It has an equation with two terms for diameter. It appears to show a cone-shaped projectile with a small frustrum base with deployable fins, and what might be a subcalibre munition inside its base.

I guess that one diameter term was referring to its submunition and the "maximum diamater" term to the base of the main cone?

There was only one diameter in the equation "d=D*(x/L)ⁿ". My understanding is that d is the nose profile, while D is the maximum diameter of the projectile.

There's no subcaliber munitions, either. There's one cross sectional drawing showing a rod connecting the two pieces, and another showing the sustainer motor.

[Imperializt Russia]

Ah, I was probably looking at the sustainer motor then.
I'd assumed that I may have been looking at something inspired by extending-rod penetrators - the nose cone would crush upon penetrating, and release the rear penetrator.

[Aqizithiuda]

Ah, I was probably looking at the sustainer motor then.
I'd assumed that I may have been looking at something inspired by extending-rod penetrators - the nose cone would crush upon penetrating, and release the rear penetrator.

Nah, nothing quite so novel.

[Black Hand]

Wait a minute, is there any consensus on whether or not something like EXACTO would even function like it's intended to?

my best guess? at longer ranges quite possibly, it wouldn't be a dramatic affect but it would at least assist with accuracy at range, another mildly amusing idea would be to load such rounds into an M2, fire it at a high angle and have a small Fire control team lasing the target. for the greatest waste of money possible to kill a single target.
EXACTO, while a cool idea would likely be a waste of money except when used for extreme long range. use in an AMR would be justified against HVT's or for fire support at extreme long range. this also makes the spotter possibly the one responsible for the shot, he continues to track the target while his Shooter simply needs to fire a reasonably accurate shot. this would make the engagement speed of each target quicker. at extended ranges.

[San-Silvacian]

san squad superior squad

death to german and british fags