NS infantry discussion thread. Mark II

[Oaledonia]

Was there even a competition or is the army just eating up everything lockheed boeing shits out now?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_Vertical_Lift

[Gallia-]

e: i was sniped ; ~ ;

[Black Hand]

Was there even a competition or is the army just eating up everything lockheed boeing shits out now?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_Vertical_Lift

does this mean that the USMC might finally receive a decent amount of UH-60's and replace the AH-1? because the army unloading them they would have to go somewhere

[Fordorsia]

Be more clear, many aircraft have that nick-name. I assume you mean the glorious V-22?

That vertical take off and landing craft that garnered such a singularly horrific reputation a couple years back.

Every new type of vehicle ever was shit until it was made better. I for one look forward to advancements in the thing.

[Black Hand]

question about rifling twist rate, what if i take it to the absurd and rather than 1:10 did say 10:5 ratio (rotation to inches) how terrible would it be?

[Oaledonia]

does this mean that the USMC might finally receive a decent amount of UH-60's and replace the AH-1? because the army unloading them they would have to go somewhere

No need to replace an amazing airframe like the Venom with a Blackhawk. Considering they are to different aircraft with two different roles. As for the AH-1, no. A dedicated transport will never replace a dedicated attack craft. Quite the opposite is happening today, actually.

[Black Hand]

does this mean that the USMC might finally receive a decent amount of UH-60's and replace the AH-1? because the army unloading them they would have to go somewhere

No need to replace an amazing airframe like the Venom with a Blackhawk. Considering they are to different aircraft with two different roles. As for the AH-1, no. A dedicated transport will never replace a dedicated attack craft. Quite the opposite is happening today, actually.

Uhmmm. if you read it they're canning the AH-64 too supposedly. so replacing the AH-1 with a navalized AH-64 (which already exists on drawing boards)
as for replacing the Venom if you have access to UH-60's that are far superior. what are the different roles is what i fail to understand. because as far as i can tell they are both general use Airframes and craft

[Coltarin]

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They all look great. My only problem is how changing a single thing, one that doesn't change how the weapon really performs, makes it a different variant. Talking about the ergonomic grip for the Match and threaded barrel for the Tactical.

I know but I do things to each. For example the tactical has a provision for locking the slide in use with a suppressor and rubber stoppers to decrease the sound of the action. The match has a precision machined barrel and a lighter trigger pull. The sub is just a small frame variant.

No need to replace an amazing airframe like the Venom with a Blackhawk. Considering they are to different aircraft with two different roles. As for the AH-1, no. A dedicated transport will never replace a dedicated attack craft. Quite the opposite is happening today, actually.

Uhmmm. if you read it they're canning the AH-64 too supposedly. so replacing the AH-1 with a navalized AH-64 (which already exists on drawing boards)
as for replacing the Venom if you have access to UH-60's that are far superior. what are the different roles is what i fail to understand. because as far as i can tell they are both general use Airframes and craft

You posted the Viet Nam variant of the AH-1
This one is cooler and will never be replaced.

[Gallia-]

No need to replace an amazing airframe like the Venom with a Blackhawk. Considering they are to different aircraft with two different roles. As for the AH-1, no. A dedicated transport will never replace a dedicated attack craft. Quite the opposite is happening today, actually.

Uhmmm. if you read it they're canning the AH-64 too

No they aren't.

[Oaledonia]

Uhmmm. if you read it they're canning the AH-64 too supposedly. so replacing the AH-1 with a navalized AH-64 (which already exists on drawing boards)

This? That's only going to happen if they get funding. I, as personal preference, like skis instead of wheels on my naval craft.

as for replacing the Venom if you have access to UH-60's that are far superior. what are the different roles is what i fail to understand. because as far as i can tell they are both general use Airframes and craft

One is a troop transport, the other is a specialized cargo lifter.

But the most obvious reason is the fact that the Marines use the Viper.

[Oaledonia]

You posted the Viet Nam variant of the AH-1
This one is cooler and will never be replaced.

Already is being replaced

[Black Hand]

Uhmmm. if you read it they're canning the AH-64 too supposedly. so replacing the AH-1 with a navalized AH-64 (which already exists on drawing boards)
as for replacing the Venom if you have access to UH-60's that are far superior. what are the different roles is what i fail to understand. because as far as i can tell they are both general use Airframes and craft

You posted the Viet Nam variant of the AH-1
This one is cooler and will never be replaced.

I posted no AH-1 admittedly they aren't the same purposeAH-64 Vs AH-1Z it's a flying tank vs a more nimble attack craft. Attack helicopter isn't an adequate term. you have Fast attack helicopters(HAL light attack helicopter, some more heavily armed scout helicopters),medium attack helicopters(ah-1, KA-50) heavy attack helicopters(AH-64, Mi-28) and then you have AIFV helicopters (Mi-24 and some of the more heavily armed utility choppers)

This? That's only going to happen if they get funding. I, as personal preference, like skis instead of wheels on my naval craft.

as for replacing the Venom if you have access to UH-60's that are far superior. what are the different roles is what i fail to understand. because as far as i can tell they are both general use Airframes and craft

One is a troop transport, the other is a specialized cargo lifter.
But the most obvious reason is the fact that the Marines use the Viper.

Navalised AH-4 would really just need more seawater resistant components i have no clue who the fuck drew that abomination.
depends on the Model of Uh-60 there buddy. also what the fuck does an attack helicopter have to do with the selection of Utility helicopters?

[Coltarin]

You posted the Viet Nam variant of the AH-1
This one is cooler and will never be replaced.

Already is being replaced

Ah I but simply to the base AH-1 Super Cobra page. It was you who went to the Zulu page.

[Oaledonia]

also what the fuck does an attack helicopter have to do with the selection of Utility helicopters?

Because they share 65-70% of the same parts, so :logistics:

[Oaledonia]

Already is being replaced

Ah I but simply to the base AH-1 Super Cobra page. It was you who went to the Zulu page.

Look at the end of the first paragraph in the Super Cobra link:

The AH-1W is the backbone of the United States Marine Corps's attack helicopter fleet, but it will be replaced in service by the Bell AH-1Z Viper upgrade.

[Black Hand]

also what the fuck does an attack helicopter have to do with the selection of Utility helicopters?

Because they share 65-70% of the same parts, so :logistics:

84% that is actually one point I will definitely give you. sadly the reason for that is partially because the USMC is probably the most frugal Branch of the US military. though it's to the point that the US army is trying to say no to new tanks



Back to a actual infantry topic.
I'm thinking of making my current armor look like this with a real visor not this brick face

info on armor

Protection
As of right now the current armor design for the MKII L is a level IIIA two piece Aluminium cable ripstop Kevlar fabric. With high density Polycarbonate Armor segments plated with 4mm HSS t-1 steel to deform the projectile Overlaying that protects vitals while still allowing mobility and flexibility in the joints. in the the HDP plates are 4cm thick and since I have no frame of reference really beyond I'm going to give it similar effectiveness. the Lazarus MkII L armor featured increases in bulk compared to the MKII in favor of lighter weight and increased Raw strength. the helmet itself is composed of 3-5CM thick polycarbonate with 8mm thick T-1 HSS steel plate covering and a completely padded High strength foam to protect the soldier from blast impacts.

Utility
The armor features various built in utilities including a built in plasma torch in either the right or left gauntlet. High intensity flashlights mounted into the helmet as well as laser ranging and designation units. The armor features internal storage compartments for small items and a integrated water reservoir and urinary recycling system as well as the ability to harvest ambient moisture. As for physical waste it is disposed of using forced air to eject it from the armor. The armor itself is capable of supplying soldiers with nutrition in what amounts to a nutrient paste. It adds water from the reservoir to to stored dry components for when the solider is unable to retrieve a ration or is in a survival situation.

Technology
the Visor features digital overlays for a heads-up display as well as displaying target ranges and allowing the soldier to mark locations and targets for other members of his squad. The overlays can be completely customized and even removed if desired and the visor also is capable of direct feed from the helmet mounted camera system that features various filters for IR and Light enhancement. The armor also features a small oxygen reserve located in the helmet that can be manually operated even without power as well as a backup filtration system to filter out incoming dust and toxins purifying the air meant to supplement the suits powered one. All units feature integrated IFF tags to prevent friendly fire incidents. As well as communication suites for both intersquad and platoon channels with NCO's and officers featuring upgraded units with enhanced range and capability.

Power
The MkII L uses a 4th generation liquid tiberium reactor that produces 70Kw and features motorized components in order to assist the user. These make it so that the armor allows the user to lift in excess of 500 Kg and carry over 100kg with relative ease as if it were no more than a day pack.

Comfort
the armor features memory foam backing that is designed to provided maximum comfort for the wearer and cushion them from concussive blasts. The armor has a complete climate control system that automatically adjusts to maintain internal pressure and temperature.

Modularity
the armor features a modular attachment system on it's exterior for the purposes of attaching various equipment pouches or additional protection. to do so requires replacement of a standard armor plate wit ha modular enabled one (The plates themselves are modular and are designed to be removed in the field with ease) there is also variations that feature various stealth enhancement methods including light refraction units and Electronic jamming suites.

Variants
A vehicle crew variant that features a slimmed down and lightened 50Kw power pack and less powerful motors it also typically does not feature the armor plate segments and primarily relies on the Underlying Kevlar layers. High output and heavy units are available for combat engineers featuring higher output motors capable of lifting 750Kg and a more powerful 125KW power pack as well as a improved plasma cutting torch Reconnaissance armor utilizes 2cm thick HDP plates for faster movement and minimal fatigue as well as enhanced optics suites. Though these pale in comparison to the Sniper armor units. Sniper armor features a massively enhanced Optics suite a full array of visual, radar and infrared detection defeat equipment and a 100Kw power unit that features a unique charging equipment to power their CSR-C Electromagnetic rifles. Spotters are typically equipped with reconnaissance armor

[Coltarin]

Ah I but simply to the base AH-1 Super Cobra page. It was you who went to the Zulu page.

Look at the end of the first paragraph in the Super Cobra link:

The AH-1W is the backbone of the United States Marine Corps's attack helicopter fleet, but it will be replaced in service by the Bell AH-1Z Viper upgrade.

First two sentences:
"The Bell AH-1 SuperCobra is a twin-engine attack helicopter based on the United States Army's AH-1 Cobra. The twin Cobra family includes the AH-1J SeaCobra, the AH-1T Improved SeaCobra, and the AH-1W SuperCobra."

[Oaledonia]

Look at the end of the first paragraph in the Super Cobra link:

First two sentences:
"The Bell AH-1 SuperCobra is a twin-engine attack helicopter based on the United States Army's AH-1 Cobra. The twin Cobra family includes the AH-1J SeaCobra, the AH-1T Improved SeaCobra, and the AH-1W SuperCobra."

My point:
> You said it wouldn't be replaced
> It's being replaced

[Coltarin]

First two sentences:
"The Bell AH-1 SuperCobra is a twin-engine attack helicopter based on the United States Army's AH-1 Cobra. The twin Cobra family includes the AH-1J SeaCobra, the AH-1T Improved SeaCobra, and the AH-1W SuperCobra."

My point:
> You said it wouldn't be replaced
> It's being replaced

Upgraded its still an AH-1 SuperCobra just has fancy new computers.

[Oaledonia]

Upgraded its still an AH-1 SuperCobra just has fancy new computers.

By that logic they are all the same.

[Coltarin]

Upgraded its still an AH-1 SuperCobra just has fancy new computers.

By that logic they are all the same.

Implying they aren't. It's like the M16 vs the M16A4.

[Gallia-]

This is an infantry regiment: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/653 ... entnew.png

Discuss.

[Oaledonia]

This is an infantry regiment: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/653 ... entnew.png

Discuss.

Needs a sky crane, remove CH-53

[Gallia-]

This is an infantry regiment: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/653 ... entnew.png

Discuss.

Needs a sky crane, remove CH-53

Theyre in there.

Somewhere.

[Sevvania]

By that logic they are all the same.

Implying they aren't. It's like the M16 vs the M16A4.

Like the AK-47 and the AKM?