NS infantry discussion thread. Mark II

[Premislyd]

So not really seeing what police "brutality" and "riots" have to do with infantry discussion of your fictional, online countries.

[Fordorsia]

So not really seeing what police "brutality" and "riots" have to do with infantry discussion of your fictional, online countries.

F.R.G are reserve infantry as well as riot police

But yes, enough talk of such things.
Any comments on my SAR Mk.2 before I can be bothered to make a writeup?

[Blackledge]

Oh I've had half the things. It's the other halves that I nitpick. I like pulled pork, but not in a turnover. And chicken and dumplings, but the word "dessicated" won't help the digestion process. Are you Hungarian by any chance? Halušky and goulash, and all.

Dessicated just means you need to add water. And no, I'm not Hungarian. It's kind of funny, I actually modeled a good part of this nation after Romania (culture and cuisine), and most of the other bits take inspiration from Scandinavia (econoic and sociopolitical landscape). However we're getting a little off track at this point.

Aye. And I do know dessicated, I just know it's very unappetizing sounding.

Anywho...

Infantry covers (aka hats). Preferences and styles? I know the beret is rather popular, but for personal uniform designs (such as I can make them) I tend to leave berets for special units, with a common field cap based on the bergmutze for daily wear and a peaked cap for dress uniform.

[Kouralia]

Infantry covers (aka hats). Preferences and styles? I know the beret is rather popular, but for personal uniform designs (such as I can make them) I tend to leave berets for special units, with a common field cap based on the bergmutze for daily wear and a peaked cap for dress uniform.

Beret. Because berets are fucking awesome (and aren't hats). Also cap for dress, and shako for full.

[Blackledge]

Beret. Because berets are fucking awesome (and aren't hats).

I'm rather certain they are hats. Or is this an thread in-joke I haven't learned?

[Kouralia]

I'm rather certain they are hats. Or is this an thread in-joke I haven't learned?

I've always been told they're not hats, they're Regimental Headdress.

[Blackledge]

Ah, that's Army-speak. I've heard several different names for hands, so to speak. Semantically speaking a beret is a type of hat.

Still, rather French for standard headdress.

[Fordorsia]

Infantry covers (aka hats). Preferences and styles? I know the beret is rather popular, but for personal uniform designs (such as I can make them) I tend to leave berets for special units, with a common field cap based on the bergmutze for daily wear and a peaked cap for dress uniform.

Beret. Because berets are fucking awesome (and aren't hats). Also cap for dress, and shako for full.

Everyone knows berets are the only logical headgear for combat.



You know it''s true when I say it.

[Kouralia]

Ah, that's Army-speak. I've heard several different names for hands, so to speak. Semantically speaking a beret is a type of hat.

Still, rather French for standard headdress.

'rather french'

wot u on m8 ill wrek u i swaer on me mam

[New Visegrad]

So not really seeing what police "brutality" and "riots" have to do with infantry discussion of your fictional, online countries.

F.R.G are reserve infantry as well as riot police

But yes, enough talk of such things.
Any comments on my SAR Mk.2 before I can be bothered to make a writeup?

No hardpoint for an optic?

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

I'm gonna go ahead and say that I doubt you'd get 7.92x57 performance form a 43mm case.

Barely...

Too lazy to do it proper

You can run it through yourself.

[Fordorsia]

F.R.G are reserve infantry as well as riot police

But yes, enough talk of such things.
Any comments on my SAR Mk.2 before I can be bothered to make a writeup?

(Image)

No hardpoint for an optic?

It's an automatic rifle from 1937, so no.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

Dessicated just means you need to add water. And no, I'm not Hungarian. It's kind of funny, I actually modeled a good part of this nation after Romania (culture and cuisine), and most of the other bits take inspiration from Scandinavia (econoic and sociopolitical landscape). However we're getting a little off track at this point.

Aye. And I do know dessicated, I just know it's very unappetizing sounding.

Anywho...

Infantry covers (aka hats). Preferences and styles? I know the beret is rather popular, but for personal uniform designs (such as I can make them) I tend to leave berets for special units, with a common field cap based on the bergmutze for daily wear and a peaked cap for dress uniform.

In field, the most common headwear would be a reduced profile/sidecut variant of the MICH/ACH helmet. Though boonie hats are not uncommon. On base one would typically find duty caps or berets sporting a regimental patch.

[New Tsavon]

Beret. Because berets are fucking awesome (and aren't hats). Also cap for dress, and shako for full.

(Image)

Everyone knows berets are the only logical headgear for combat.



You know it''s true when I say it.

Meanwhile the Tsavonians are doing the proper thing and actually issuing protective headgear.

But, hey, whatever works for you guys.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

Everyone knows berets are the only logical headgear for combat.



You know it''s true when I say it.

Meanwhile the Tsavonians are doing the proper thing and actually issuing protective headgear.

But, hey, whatever works for you guys.

Careful Baj, your sassy side is showing~

[Purpelia]

In Purpelia we have steel helmets. And they have spikes. Best of both worlds.

[Imperializt Russia]

No hardpoint for an optic?

It's an automatic rifle from 1937, so no.

If it's 1937, then the brake seems a little overly modern for me.

[Fordorsia]

Everyone knows berets are the only logical headgear for combat.

(Image)

You know it''s true when I say it.

Meanwhile the Tsavonians are doing the proper thing and actually issuing protective headgear.

But, hey, whatever works for you guys.

Armoured ushankas though. Ain't no one got shit on those.

It's an automatic rifle from 1937, so no.

If it's 1937, then the brake seems a little overly modern for me.

Well, the universe is about 10 years more advanced, give or take a few years for different technologies.

[Imperializt Russia]

In that case, I think you might be best off with just a birdcage flash suppressor.

[Bezombia]

Does anyone have any information on the AO-31-7? The source Wikipedia gives for its "information" on it doesn't even mention it, which, while funny, isn't helpful.
I didn't know that a caseless rifle was developed in Russia.

[Aqizithiuda]

Aqizithiuda, would you happen to have much of an opinion on the differences between the barrel designs in the Metal Storm 2004 patent?
Figures three and four look similar, but also very different.

It strikes me that Fig3 looks simpler, with primer and pressure chambers contained within the individual cartridges and that Fig4 places the pressure chambers within the barrel itself.
It strikes me that Fig3 would better facilitate the swapping of loaded barrels as magazines (somehow) but likely increase the potential for cartridge failure, possibly catastrophic. If the tube were to be incorrectly packed in the factory, the pressure chambers could become damaged and rupture on firing or possibly even detonate a projectile.
Fig4's design would appear safer, as failures in the barrel are likely to be noted before packing and unlikely to be affected by packing.

The AICW's round design, however, does not appear to be especially similar to designs presented in the patent.

I've also suddenly become intrigued by the 30mm cartridge of the AGS-17 and 30. Might also produce a conventional OICW utilising those cartridges, while this Metal Storm-derived system may use 30mm or 40mm shells, I'm not certain. Suppose it depends on how "smart" I can get a 30mm projectile to go.

Could I get a link to the patent in question?

[New Tsavon]

Meanwhile the Tsavonians are doing the proper thing and actually issuing protective headgear.

But, hey, whatever works for you guys.

Careful Baj, your sassy side is showing~

You haven't even seen anything yet~

Armoured ushankas though. Ain't no one got shit on those.

Uparmored notpickelhaubes, though.

[Ea90]

Don't be biop.

This is generally a good rule to live by.

I've always been told they're not hats, they're Regimental Headdress.

Just like cadets shouldn't put their hands in their pockets, because they're not theirs, they're Her Majesty's?

[Imperializt Russia]

Aqizithiuda, would you happen to have much of an opinion on the differences between the barrel designs in the Metal Storm 2004 patent?
Figures three and four look similar, but also very different.

It strikes me that Fig3 looks simpler, with primer and pressure chambers contained within the individual cartridges and that Fig4 places the pressure chambers within the barrel itself.
It strikes me that Fig3 would better facilitate the swapping of loaded barrels as magazines (somehow) but likely increase the potential for cartridge failure, possibly catastrophic. If the tube were to be incorrectly packed in the factory, the pressure chambers could become damaged and rupture on firing or possibly even detonate a projectile.
Fig4's design would appear safer, as failures in the barrel are likely to be noted before packing and unlikely to be affected by packing.

The AICW's round design, however, does not appear to be especially similar to designs presented in the patent.

I've also suddenly become intrigued by the 30mm cartridge of the AGS-17 and 30. Might also produce a conventional OICW utilising those cartridges, while this Metal Storm-derived system may use 30mm or 40mm shells, I'm not certain. Suppose it depends on how "smart" I can get a 30mm projectile to go.

Could I get a link to the patent in question?

That would be useful, sorry
http://www.google.co.uk/patents/US67222 ... atent+2004

On an alternate note, would you happen to know how the Russians got such a high muzzle velocity on the 30x29mm grenade for such a small cartridge? Possibly how effective its warhead is compared to 40mm designs?
It's like, not there.

[Kouralia]

I've always been told they're not hats, they're Regimental Headdress.

Just like cadets shouldn't put their hands in their pockets, because they're not theirs, they're Her Majesty's?

No, the reason I give to my cadets is 'because it's not cold enough so fucking man up'.