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Aqizithiuda wrote:

DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:
Here's an interesting bit on the FN303 they seem to praise it TBH.

In practice it seems to be too powerful for short ranges and too inaccurate for long ranges . . . but really, let's get over with it.

You make or hard when you advocate using less lethal weapons in ways that will increase their chance of killing someone and think that that's okay because at least you aren't giving them a heart attack.

Aqizithiuda wrote:I hope someone in the squad has a more powerful weapon, but it is an attractive idea on paper.

DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:

Aqizithiuda wrote:
You make or hard when you advocate using less lethal weapons in ways that will increase their chance of killing someone and think that that's okay because at least you aren't giving them a heart attack.

What? I don't understand.

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:

Aqizithiuda wrote:I hope someone in the squad has a more powerful weapon, but it is an attractive idea on paper.

Worry not, each squad maintains an *HK21, *MSG90 and PAW20. Too, near everyone carries an RPG22.

A big part of the microcaliber switch is to lighten the rifleman's load, to allow for the carrying of more MG and GL ammunition.

*Each in 7.92mm Mauser

Aqizithiuda wrote:Carry on, then.

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:

Aqizithiuda wrote:Carry on, then.

Alright then.

Aqizithiuda wrote:I would advise airgaps in FMJ rounds and spoontips in AP rounds, though, to maximise terminal effects.

Aqizithiuda wrote:

DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:
What? I don't understand.

You advocate shooting someone in the abdomen, where the chance of internal injury is highest, over the thorax, where the chance of internal injury is comparatively low, because you don't want to induce Tachycardia Arrythmia.

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:Worry not, each squad maintains an *HK21, *MSG90 and PAW20. Too, near everyone carries an RPG22.

A big part of the microcaliber switch is to lighten the rifleman's load, to allow for the carrying of more MG and GL ammunition.

*Each in 7.92mm Mauser

Carry on, then.

DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:understand that the phenomenon is relatively rare, but is it the only way cardiac arrest may occur as a result of a less lethal projectile hitting the heart or are there others?

DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:

Aqizithiuda wrote:
You advocate shooting someone in the abdomen, where the chance of internal injury is highest, over the thorax, where the chance of internal injury is comparatively low, because you don't want to induce Tachycardia Arrythmia.



Carry on, then.

I understand that the phenomenon is relatively rare, but is it the only way cardiac arrest may occur as a result of a less lethal projectile hitting the heart or are there others?

Really, once you take everything into account, the legs are the best to aim for. If you miss an individual's upper arms or upper torso you're relatively close to his (or others', assuming he's in a crowd) neck & head area.

Kouralia wrote:

DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:
I understand that the phenomenon is relatively rare, but is it the only way cardiac arrest may occur as a result of a less lethal projectile hitting the heart or are there others?

Really, once you take everything into account, the legs are the best to aim for. If you miss an individual's upper arms or upper torso you're relatively close to his (or others', assuming he's in a crowd) neck & head area.

But what if you miss his legs and then he stabs you? After all, the legs of a moving target are harder to hit than the torso.

Arkandros wrote:

DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:Do you train your grunts in ambidextrously firing their rifles? I keep on hearing about it and realize its' benefits (firing around corners on your dominant side, if losing dexterity in one b/c of injury or whatever, etc) but is it something that's really mastered and used in actual combat? It just sounds like a hard thing to pull of consistently, that's all.

This struck me while I was contemplating chest-mounted knife sheaths (pic related)

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for my grunts, and seeing how that setup could prove uncomfortable (rifle stock sits on knife instead of shoulder), I was going to make right-handed grunts place the knife on the left side of their torso and vice versa. But it would still get in the way for this ambidextrous firing I'm hearing about.

probably the easiest solution would be to place the knife on the off shoulder. allowing for ambidexterity during use would require your rifles to have either a bottom ejection or a mechanism to switch the side the ejector is on that is able to be used mid-firefight. If you don't have one of those two, someone is gonna get a face full of hot casings.

Aqizithiuda wrote:

United states of brazilian nations wrote:so people, turns out i really had screwed up with calculations. i made some other quick calculations, some rough estimates on compressed powder etc. and reached a result, i guess.

so, as this thing uses compressed powder, hot loads, i'll sure have to make its walls ticker, but whatsoever. i managed to get some good estimates while basing it around the 6.8 SPC that would be a very close counterpart to mine.

the result is here.

i'm a ballistics illiterate so i really don't know how to "read" these numbers. for a STANAG-compatible, 5.56x45mm NATO based cartridge, is this performance good, acceptable, meh, sub-par or utter crap?

It's pretty decent round. What are the dimensions of the case and the projectile?

Imperializt Russia wrote:

Arkandros wrote:probably the easiest solution would be to place the knife on the off shoulder. allowing for ambidexterity during use would require your rifles to have either a bottom ejection or a mechanism to switch the side the ejector is on that is able to be used mid-firefight. If you don't have one of those two, someone is gonna get a face full of hot casings.

Pretty sure this discussion has come up before, and there turned out to be no benefit to having your knife way up there. It's difficult to grab there. Why not just have it on your belt? The only real reason you'd put it there is because you think you'd look imposing.

Kouralia wrote:Query: What are people's special infantry? By this I don't mean 'Special Forces', I mean the nearly Special Forces. So, for the US I don't mean Force Recon or Delta Force, I mean the USMC (erreh marine a rifle marine amirite?) and the Rangers. For the UK I don't mean the SAS or SBS, I mean the Paras and the Royal Marines. People who still fight in battalion formations etc. in the line, but who are regarded as considerably more elite than the usual infantry regiments (i.e. the Paras are more elite than the Royal Regiment of Scotland).

United states of brazilian nations wrote:one of them is got to be called the HUEHUE regiment. but i guess these will be true special forces.

"As we lay in our MG positions I saw a hostile Officer stand heroically upon a hill, waving the Brazilian flag towards us like the enemy dog he was, calling his men to charge. I prepared to open up on him with my MG when a rustle in the jungle nearby made me look around in shock. All of my section lay dead, and there was only one thing to suggest what it was that had killed them - a combat knife through the heart of my Corporal, pinning a cap badge to his chest. I don't know why, and I'm ashamed to say it, but I surrendered right off. There was something just... Even to this day I see the image of my section, killed without a sound - and I'll forever be haunted by the six letters on the cap-badge: "

H.U.E.
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Kouralia wrote:

United states of brazilian nations wrote:one of them is got to be called the HUEHUE regiment. but i guess these will be true special forces.

"As we lay in our MG positions I saw a hostile Officer stand heroically upon a hill, waving the Brazilian flag towards us like the enemy dog he was, calling his men to charge. I prepared to open up on him with my MG when a rustle in the jungle nearby made me look around in shock. All of my section lay dead, and there was only one thing to suggest what it was that had killed them - a combat knife through the heart of my Corporal, pinning a cap badge to his chest. I don't know why, and I'm ashamed to say it, but I surrendered right off. There was something just... Even to this day I see the image of my section, killed without a sound - and I'll forever be haunted by the six letters on the cap-badge: "

H.U.E.
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H.U.E.

Imperializt Russia wrote:

Arkandros wrote:probably the easiest solution would be to place the knife on the off shoulder. allowing for ambidexterity during use would require your rifles to have either a bottom ejection or a mechanism to switch the side the ejector is on that is able to be used mid-firefight. If you don't have one of those two, someone is gonna get a face full of hot casings.

Pretty sure this discussion has come up before, and there turned out to be no benefit to having your knife way up there. It's difficult to grab there. Why not just have it on your belt? The only real reason you'd put it there is because you think you'd look imposing.

Premislyd wrote:lol it's only a prototype

Ea90 wrote:

Premislyd wrote:lol it's only a prototype

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