NS infantry discussion thread. Mark II

[Purpelia]

Have I ever told you that I find your army scary...

[Immoren]

Have I ever told you that I find your army scary...

Pffft. Scary.

[Blackledge]

Have I ever told you that I find your army scary...

I guess you could say that anyone who invades Finland is... Finnish'd?

[Purpelia]

Yea, I am NOT invading Finland any time soon.

[Republic of South Carolina]

New PDW Design I have been toying around with. Trying to push 3,000+ ft/s out of an 11.5" barrel and make it weight under 7.5 lbs loaded with a 30 round magazine, optics and other accessories.

Weight:
5.74 lbs
7 lbs 9.36 oz with 30 round Magazine, Optic and accessories

Length:
27.58" stock retracted
30.67" stock extended

Barrel Length:
11.5"

Cartridge:
5.2x47mm

Action:
Gas-operated, rotating bolt
Tappet system (in testing)

Rate of Fire:
15 to 25 rounds/minute sustained
15-60 rounds/minute semi-automatic
550 to 650 rounds/minute burst cyclic
1,000 to 1,085 rounds/minute cyclic

Muzzle Velocity:
3,367 ft/s Cartridge, Caliber 5.2mm, Armor Piercing, 52 grain

Effect Range:
350 meters Point target
500 meters Area target

Sights:
Trijicon ACOG TA11J-RMR Illuminated Cross-hair, Green, 3.5x35mm/3.25 MOA Red Dot
Backup Folding Iron Sights


Feed System:
15, 20, 30, 40 round box magazine
120 round quad-column casket magazine (Testing and Evaluating)

[Bezombia]

New PDW Design I have been toying around with. Trying to push 3,000+ ft/s out of an 11.5" barrel and make it weight under 7.5 lbs loaded with a 30 round magazine, optics and other accessories.

(Image)
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Weight:
5.74 lbs
7 lbs 9.36 oz with 30 round Magazine, Optic and accessories

Length:
27.58" stock retracted
30.67" stock extended

Barrel Length:
11.5"

Cartridge:
5.2x47mm

Action:
Gas-operated, rotating bolt
Tappet system (in testing)

Rate of Fire:
15 to 25 rounds/minute sustained
15-60 rounds/minute semi-automatic
550 to 650 rounds/minute burst cyclic
1,000 to 1,085 rounds/minute cyclic

Muzzle Velocity:
3,367 ft/s Cartridge, Caliber 5.2mm, Armor Piercing, 52 grain

Effect Range:
350 meters Point target
500 meters Area target

Sights:
Trijicon ACOG TA11J-RMR Illuminated Cross-hair, Green, 3.5x35mm/3.25 MOA Red Dot
Backup Folding Iron Sights


Feed System:
15, 20, 30, 40 round box magazine
120 round quad-column casket magazine (Testing and Evaluating)

5.2x47 from a 780mm long firearm doesn't sound like much of a PDW.

My nation's PDW uses 7.62x25 and is at best 500mm long, stock extended, and around 350mm long stock collapsed.

[New Tsavon]

Tsavon rejects the notion of "PDWs" in their entirety and uses machine pistols and carbines instead.

Actually, I'm not even sure if the term "PDW" or any of the weapons that bare the name even exist in AAoW.

[Aqizithiuda]

An ineffectual jewish reformist whose teachings have been warped and misused to found a new religion that at this point pays only token homage to his original intentions? I newer knew Russian gun design was that deep.

*Glares at you for ten, long, cold, weary seconds.*

Can we stop being all political and weird about this issue? I just wanted solid, reasonable reasons why or why not I could put BARS in an RPK-74M

It makes the weapon weigh more than it reduces muzzle flip and recoil.

And, to be fair to Purp, he wasn't being weird and political about your question, just some idiotic comments that followed it.

[Purpelia]

Tsavon rejects the notion of "PDWs" in their entirety and uses machine pistols and carbines instead.

Actually, I'm not even sure if the term "PDW" or any of the weapons that bare the name even exist in AAoW.

Just do what I do and issue a SMG than. Seriously, would you be interested in a PPSh-41 that has powered tactical rails on 4 sides and fires 7.5x25 rounds that reach out to 300m?

[Immoren]

Here any posible PDWs would go under designation of "konepistooli".

[New Tsavon]

Tsavon rejects the notion of "PDWs" in their entirety and uses machine pistols and carbines instead.

Actually, I'm not even sure if the term "PDW" or any of the weapons that bare the name even exist in AAoW.

Just do what I do and issue a SMG than. Seriously, would you be interested in a PPSh-41 that has powered tactical rails on 4 sides and fires 7.5x25 rounds that reach out to 300m?

Well, in Tsavonian doctrine, SMGs are classified as automatic carbines.

As for the tacticool PPSH, I'll pass.

[Purpelia]

Just do what I do and issue a SMG than. Seriously, would you be interested in a PPSh-41 that has powered tactical rails on 4 sides and fires 7.5x25 rounds that reach out to 300m?

Well, in Tsavonian doctrine, SMGs are classified as automatic carbines.

As for the tacticool PPSH, I'll pass.

Well I guess it's better than assault machine pistol.

[Kouralia]

Well... Kouralian Infantry, hmm. Where to start...?

Overview:
The Royal Corps of Infantry is one of the largest, most well-known and most venerated Corps in the Kouralian Army. The Kouralian infantry most exemplify the concept of Kouralian warfare - that the enemy must be closed with and destroyed at bayonet point in order to ensure complete success on the field of battle. The Kouralian Corps of Infantry is divided up into successions of Regiments, who are ordered along the 'Order of Precedence'. In battle, however, the Regiments are not used, as each is an administrative unit, designed to provide esprit de corps among the men and to make it easier to administrate them. The next step below, the 'Battalion', is the basic Infantry unit in the Order of Battle, and Infantry Units are never regularly split below the Battalion level when placed into the army's OrBat. The comparable level for Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineer, Royal Artillery, Royal Armoured Corps and Army Air Corps (among others) is that of 'Regiment'.

Organisation:
As said, in the Royal Kouralian Army there are different sizes, and two forms of Organisation. The Order of Precedence shows which regiments are the most 'senior' and which are more 'Junior' in terms of their order of creation and/or precedence in the eyes of the Crown. The 1st of Foot is the Royal Guard Regiment, one of the largest Regiments in the Kouralian Army. After that, the next four Regiments are the Silverfin Guards (2nd of Foot), Royal Chietan Carabineers (3rd of Foot), The Royal Borderers (4th of Foot) and The Kurton Regiment (5th of Foot). The number of regiments in the Corps of Infantry is substantial, going all the way up through those such as the Experimental Corps of Riflemen (94th of Foot) and onto more modern Regiments, such as The Parachute Regiment, The Special Reconnaissance Regiment and The Airborne Pathfinder Regiment.

Unit	IC Rank	2IC Rank	Unit Size
Section	Corporal	Lance Corporal	8 Men
Platoon	Captain/ Lieutenant/ Ensign	Serjeant	28 Dismounted Men (~40 inc.Veh.Crew)
Company	Major	Captain	~170 Men
Battalion	Lieutenant Colonel	Major	~1,131 men
Regiment	Colonel	Lieutenant Colonel	~1,150 --> ~12,460

(Figures (Coy., Bttn., Rgt) shown for Armoured Infantry)

There are multiple types of Infantry Battalion, and these typically represent the transport used by the Battalion.

The most heavy-duty is the 'Armoured Infantry' formation, which results in a single platoon being transported by four thirty-->fifty tonne 'Arion' armoured vehicles, with 15.5mm HMGs, ATGMs, 7mm Chainguns and 40mm auto-cannons on each vehicle. Two Armoured Infantry Battalions are within each Armoured Brigade accompanying the two Armoured/Cavalry Regiments, and another two appear in each Mechanised Brigade to accompany the two Mechanised Infantry Battalions. Armoured Infantry Battalions are anticipated to be extreme concentrations of firepower, to defeat any enemy infantry or armoured unit they come across. For example, a single Armoured Infantry Battalion carries the following support armaments and vehicles (This does not include the attached Light Aid Detachment):

• 7x 120mm AMOS Mortars, capable of 112 MRSI rounds and relocation within 30 seconds of the first round being put down-range.
• 18x 81mm automatic gun-mortar carriers, capable of putting down ~540 rounds in total in the same 30 second period.
• 9x 60mm platoon-level mortars, capable of putting down ~135 rounds in the same 30 second period.
• 8x 105mm Mobile Gun Systems for Direct Fire Support.
• 57x IFVs, 14x Recce APCs, 18x Airborne APCs, 7x APCs, 13x MedEvac vehicles, 27x Logistical Support Lorries, 15x MRAPs, 2x dedicated command vehicles, 3x light tanks and 17x Light Utility Vehicles.
• 27x Infantry Sections, offering 162 rifle grenades to be launched simultaneously, ignoring Platoon Command Staff
• 4x Marksman Sections, of 4 sniper teams each.
• 3x GMGs.
• 9x HMGs.
• 6x ManPADS launch-units, with a total of 30 missiles for them.
• 18x ATGM teams, with a total of 90 missiles for them (That is, two ATGM teams per platoon).

Mechanised Infantry, only seen in Mechanised Brigades is regarded partially as a stop-gap measure: until it can be afforded to replace all APCs with IFVs (an unlikely situation). They are typically carried in the 'Auwær' APC, but sometimes in Arion APC models. Typically a Mechanised platoon will have three vehicles, and each will be armed with a 15.5mm HMG, and possibly a guided ATGM. In popular and in-army consciousness, the Mechanised Infantry is seen as the least prestigious unit to be in. While Armoured Infantry are the 'spear point' whose job is to engage and destroy the enemy's heaviest points and units, and the Light Role Units are enhanced in the public mind by the endurance and skill required to act without vehicular support for long periods of time, the Mechanised Infantry is seen as less impressive. They don't have the firepower of the Armoured Infantry, the endurance of the Light Infantry or the simple Cool Factor of Air Assault Infantry.

Light Role Infantry refers to infantry carried by trucks, on foot, or by armoured cars/MRAPs. They typically have marginally higher levels of fitness than the Mechanised, Armoured or Air Assault Infantry because of the much greater emphasis placed on PT and the ability to both TAB and 'Yomp' long distances into battle. Despite this, they do frequently receive vehicle support, especially those ear-marked for 'Motorisation', or the replacement of Schiavi trucks for 18-passenger, 6x6 MRAPs, which results in two MRAPs per platoon.

Finally, Air Assault Infantry typically goes into battle in utility or heavy lift helicopters, sometimes even in gunships, or through airdrops from airlift planes. The former are used to rapidly put pressure on, mop up or shore up points in the line at a tactical level, while the latter are among the most highly regarded in the Kouralian military, as their role in full-on strategic/operational level planing is to die. Their usage is to penetrate the enemy's lines in a massed airdrop, capture key locations and force both panic and strategic re-evaluation among the opposing commanders, and thus then weaken the line. Whether line units are drawn out to engage them or their Reserves are committed, when the rapidly-approaching main thrust of Armoured Infantry hits the enemy's battle line he is likely to be much less able to deal with it.

Equipment:
The Kouralian Infantry use a great deal of equipment in order to bring about the defeat of their foes. These typically come under three categories: Utility, Weaponry and Vehicles.

Utility equipment ranges from the uniforms on their backs (see below), their helmets, boots and even the sporks issued to eat MREs in the field. Much of this utility equipment is mass produced for the Kouralian Government and is designed to be both cheap and durable, often at the expense of excess frills. The average Kouralian carries the following in his belt-kit:

• 3x Magazines (front pouches)
• 7x Magazines (left-side pouches)
• 3x Rifle Grenades (right-side pouches)
• Water bottle (1,000ml) and mug (500ml)
• Mess Tin
• Hexamine Cooker
• Main Meal and Desert Rations
• Spork
• Sand-Bag
• Respirator
• Cleaning Kit
• Bayonet
• Notepad and Pen(cil)
• Personal Trauma Kit
• Compass
• Map
• Tactical Light
• hardboiled Sweets
• Bacon Jerky

The Average Kouralian soldier's 'Protection' section of the PAWPERSO acronym consists of his helmet, his armour, his kneeguards, and sometimes elbow-pads. The heavy armour features four separate plates of ballistic protection: the removal of some of such is common but not endorsed by the Kouralian Military Command. Each soldier typically has three places where he may store things: his webbing and pockets, his patrol pack/day sack, and his Bergan. They are listed in decreasing order of frequency of wear. The Webbing and pockets are invariably worn for nigh-on-all waking hours of the Kouralian Infanteer's day. The Patrol pack is carried into battle and carries everything needed to last for 24-48 hours, including shelter, rations, more ammunition, waterproofs, CBRN gear, micro-flares and warm kit. The Bergan carries even more shit, such as sleeping bags, spare kit, more ammo and more food and drink.

The L117 Bayonet

The R1A2 Rifle, standard armament of the Kouralian Corps of Infantry

The average Kouralian carries two weapons into battle - his Individual Weapon, which is either a rifle or GPMG, and his bayonet. With these he will close with and destroy the enemy. The standard Kouralian calibre is .280mm and the standard rifle is a bull-pup, polymer rifle, with a 4x optic, bayonet and the capability to launch rifle grenades with absolutely no modification, and even while the bayonet is attached. He carries 300 rounds in his belt kit, and even more throughout the rest of his equipment, with roughly 6,000 rounds being stored in his section's transport. The GPMG is a light-weight weapon, designed to offer maximum fire-power with minimum fuss. It can be fed both from belts and from the standard Kouralian magazine, and is designed to weigh only marginally more than the full-rifle model of the Kouralian MMW. The GPMG is also, uniquely for most weapons of its class, able to fire the standard rifle grenade and mount the standard bayonet, provided it is the standard-length barrel. The standard, L117 Bayonet, is made of high quality steel and uses a tanto design of a ten-inch blade to ensure complete lethality at close range, while retaining utility through its applications as a wire-cutter and saw. The Kouralian Corps of Infantry also uses a range of other weapons ranging from the .338 MSWS, the .450 semi-automatic service pistol (Anemosian ASP .45), the Intermediate Anti-Tank Munition (Crookfur M14 AMAT), the 12 gauge Dual-tube shotgun (Fulmine Compatto) and the venerated D.E.R.P. Pistol, with its double-barrel, over-under, select-fire, metal-storm, armour-piercing, sub-compact, revolver-action format.

Arion IFV w/ 40mm Auto-cannon | Arion APC w/ 40mm GMG
Auwær APC w/ 15.5mm HMG | Kouralian MRAP w/ 15.5mm HMG | Airborne APC w/ 7mm GPMG

The Kouralian Corps of Infantry uses multiple types of vehicles, ranging from the 50-tonne Heavy IFVs of the Armoured Infantry all the way to the quad-bikes of the Air-mobile GMG teams. These are invariably of the highest standard possible due to the insane budget allocation to the Kouralian military for its size.

Uniforms:
The Kouralian Infantry, like the Army as a general rule, has ten 'numbers' of dress. Each 'Number' represents a different prescribed list of mandatory pieces of clothing and accouterments, and is designed to cover all possible eventualities. The first five are of a ceremonial nature, and the remaining five are for more day-to-day duties.

SNCO (CSjt) uniform of the Royal Guard Regiment, of a Grenadier Company

• Full Dress is used on a day-to-day basis by two groups of people only - Musicians, Drummers and Pipers of the Army Band Service, and those on Public-Facing duties at Royal Properties. However, it is possible for soldiers to request the dress be temporarily loaned to them for important ceremonial occasions such as weddings, and it is common for the pallbearers at military funerals to wear this uniform. The shako of the Infantryman's headdress features an over-size cap-badge, indicating his regiment. The cord on it is usually in one of six colours, representing the Company within the Regiment - Gold is for officers, Silver for the Colour Company, Maroon for the Grenadier Company, Rifle Green for the Light Company, Yellow for the First Company and Pale Blue for the Second Company. If the uniform is worn by officers then the rank insignia is on the shoulders, if it is worn by Warrant Officers then the rank insignia is on the lower right army, and if it worn by Other Ranks then the rank insignia is on the upper right arm. The Dress features accouterments as befits the regiment.
• The Numbers One and Three are the most ceremonial of the 'Numebred' Dresses. They are typically rented by regular soldiers for important events (e.g. Passing Out Parades), but are otherwise retained by Regimental Stores. They are typically of a dark grey hue, with the Number Three Dress' white coat being optimised for hot-weather deployments. Territorial Soldiers don't typically receive these uniforms, however it is not unheard of for them to receive them. An Enlisted soldier wears it with a belt, a SNCO wears it with a belt and a red sash, and an Officer/WO wears a cross-belt with a sword for officers, except in the rifle regiments where SNCOs wear cross-belts. This dress features regimental accouterments, such as the Rifles Regiments who typically wear solid-black trousers (no red), rifle green jackets, and musket-balls as buttons.
• The Numbers Two and Four Dresses are used for ceremonial events that are of more day-to-day basis. All Regular Infanteers are issued with this uniform (#2) for their military career, but may receive the #4 temporarily if required due to location. Territorial Infantrymen are typically able to request this uniform be issued them and it is much more common than the #1 to be issued. This uniform typically is worn with a cross-belt by Officers/WOs (and SNCOs of Light Infantry), and with belts by NCOs and Enlisted. SNCOs wear dark red sashes on the shoulder/torso. This dress is typically worn with accouterments, such as the claret trousers of the Silverfin Guards.
• The Numbers Five and Six Dresses are the day-to-day uniform of clerks, and soldiers who are on base such as in Public/non-Public-Facing duties at Royal properties. It is less used by enlisted soldiers, but WOs and Field Officers of most units will wear them when not deployed. The Jumper may be worn in beret-colour if the RSM so desires it, but otherwise is worn in the usual olive green.
• Number Seven Dress, or 'PT' Dress (Physical Training Dress) consists of combat boots and trousers, and the Regimental T-Shirt. While rarely worn with regimental headdress, that option is available. This uniform is typically worn for, surprise-surprise, Physical Training Sessions and other non-tactical training such as Command Tasks or Regimental Sports. The Regimental T-Shirt is a piece of kit retained by the soldier post-deployment in the same colour as their beret, with their surname printed on it and the regiment's cap badge on the left breast.
• Number Eight Dress is the standard dress uniform of the Kouralian military, and is worn by most soldiers most of the time (unless on operations). It consists of the standard combat shirt, trousers and boots, standard dark green shirt, and regimental headdress.
• Number Nine Dress is the Combat Dress Uniform of the Kouralian Army. It consists of the Under-Armour shirt, the Helmet, Armour, Combat Trousers and Combat Boots. It is the heaviest of all the uniforms, and beyond the blanking patches and rank slides there is no distinction between any soldier of any rank/regiment.

Traditions:
The Kouralian Army has numerous Colours. Each Line and Guard Infantry Regiment Battalion (not Light Infantry (that is, 'Light Infantry Regiments', not a 'Light Role Infantry Battalion')) has two - the Queen's Colour and the Regimental Colour. These are large flags, usually 36 in × 45 in, and mounted on pikes to be carried by a single man in battle. The Queen's Colour is the national flag, often trimmed with gold fabric, and with the regiment's insignia placed in the centre where it replaces the gold star/crown of the National/Royal Flags. The Regimental Colour is typically one of a single colour (e.g. dark blue), which matches a uniform detail etc. from the regiment's history. It is also trimmed (usually) and features a central insignia. Most regiments that are designated as 'royal' regiments (that is either have the word 'Royal' or the sponsorship of a royal personage in their name) have a navy blue Regimental Colour. Chietan regiments are all dark green in hue. Both colours are embroidered with the regiment's battle honours. The Royal Guard Regiments all feature an additional Royal Colour, which is solid Royal Red, with the Coat of Arms in the centre, and the Crown in the top left and bottom right corners, and regimental insignia in the bottom left and top right.

These Colours are caried by the '1st Second' and '2nd Second' of the Regiment, two Ensigns of the Colour Party of the Battalion (respectively the Queen's for the 1st, and the Regimental for the 2nd). On parade the Colours are marched before the regiment along with the remainder of the Colour Party. In battle they are furled and stored in the Commander's Vehicle. If the situation becomes so dire that a) surrender and retreat are not an option, and b) the OC thinks they should die in a manner worthy of telling throughout the ages, or it is such a victory that it requires added gravitas and GLORY, then he may call for their unfurling. They will then br brought from their sheaths and carried by the Seconds. The 'Light Infantry Regiments' all wear their battle honours inscribed on their cross belts, or if Enlisted, on their belt buckles. No Colours are carried.

[Premislyd]

Tsavon rejects the notion of "PDWs" in their entirety and uses machine pistols and carbines instead.

Actually, I'm not even sure if the term "PDW" or any of the weapons that bare the name even exist in AAoW.

This is basically what I do.

"PDWs" are basically SMGs.

---

Totally unrelated note, I'm torn on whether or not to replace the ljungman-thing with the not-SG510 rather than using it in a limited, "RPK" style role.

@Kour: The multitool with rifle attachment capability looks p good

[The Republic of Lanos]

Totally unrelated note, I'm torn on whether or not to replace the ljungman-thing with the not-SG510 rather than using it in a limited, "RPK" style role.

In NS RP or TF? In TF, I made the SG 510 for my own use in 7.62x51mm ANTO.

[Kouralia]

@Kour: The multitool with rifle attachment capability looks p good

Thanks, I guess...

*Glares at Bayonet-hating Plem*

D:<

[Premislyd]

Totally unrelated note, I'm torn on whether or not to replace the ljungman-thing with the not-SG510 rather than using it in a limited, "RPK" style role.

In NS RP or TF? In TF, I made the SG 510 for my own use in 7.62x51mm ANTO.

Yes. TF. Because a nation hating everything Lanos would buy stuff from Lanos...

[Sevvania]

Well I guess it's better than assault machine pistol.

Is it?

[Immoren]

Most powerful platoon in infantry COy

Platoon HQ

Platoon leader - (Ensign-Lieutenant;AR, disposable AT-launcher)
Platoon 2ic - (Sergeant-Sergeant First Class;AR, disposable AT-launcher)
Medic - (Private-Private First Class; AR)

Firing position team

Firing position NCO (Corporal-Sergeant ;AR)
Signals NCO (Corporal-Sergeant ;AR)
Signals Specialist (Private-Private First Class; AR)
Signals Specialist (Private-Private First Class; AR)
Signals Specialist (Private-Private First Class; AR)
Signals Specialist* (Private-Private First Class; AR)
Driver* (Private-Private First Class; AR)

3xLight Mortar Squad

Squad leader (Corporal-Sergeant ;AR)
Gunner (lance corporal-corporal; AR, 81mm mortar)
Assitant gunner (Private-Private First Class; AR)
Loader (Private-Private First Class; AR)
Charge setter (Private-Private First Class; AR)
Ammo handler (Private-Private First Class; AR)
Ammo handler* (Private-Private First Class; AR)
Driver*

(*denotes that they are also drivers among their other responsibilities)

[Republic of South Carolina]

New PDW Design I have been toying around with. Trying to push 3,000+ ft/s out of an 11.5" barrel and make it weight under 7.5 lbs loaded with a 30 round magazine, optics and other accessories.

(Image)
(Image)
Weight:
5.74 lbs
7 lbs 9.36 oz with 30 round Magazine, Optic and accessories

Length:
27.58" stock retracted
30.67" stock extended

Barrel Length:
11.5"

Cartridge:
5.2x47mm

Action:
Gas-operated, rotating bolt
Tappet system (in testing)

Rate of Fire:
15 to 25 rounds/minute sustained
15-60 rounds/minute semi-automatic
550 to 650 rounds/minute burst cyclic
1,000 to 1,085 rounds/minute cyclic

Muzzle Velocity:
3,367 ft/s Cartridge, Caliber 5.2mm, Armor Piercing, 52 grain

Effect Range:
350 meters Point target
500 meters Area target

Sights:
Trijicon ACOG TA11J-RMR Illuminated Cross-hair, Green, 3.5x35mm/3.25 MOA Red Dot
Backup Folding Iron Sights


Feed System:
15, 20, 30, 40 round box magazine
120 round quad-column casket magazine (Testing and Evaluating)

5.2x47 from a 780mm long firearm doesn't sound like much of a PDW.

My nation's PDW uses 7.62x25 and is at best 500mm long, stock extended, and around 350mm long stock collapsed.

I would use a 8.5" or 10.3" barrel. That would mean having to over-pressure an already over-overpressed cartridge to achieve to 3.000 ft/s or more I want. I am using a .20 Tactical projectile with a necked up .204 Ruger Case and 31.9 grains of N-140 powder. The data I put into my hand reloading calculator said the projectile would be pushing 5,020 ft/s from a 22" inch barrel with a 25.1 grain Ball Projectile.

[Purpelia]

Well I guess it's better than assault machine pistol.

Is it?

Nope. It's just that the Purpelian name for a SMG translates roughly as "automatic assault pistol".

[Immoren]

Is it?

Nope. It's just that the Purpelian name for a SMG translates roughly as "automatic assault pistol".

Machine pistols are best smgs.

[New Tsavon]

Tsavon rejects the notion of "PDWs" in their entirety and uses machine pistols and carbines instead.

Actually, I'm not even sure if the term "PDW" or any of the weapons that bare the name even exist in AAoW.

This is basically what I do.

"PDWs" are basically SMGs.

---

Totally unrelated note, I'm torn on whether or not to replace the ljungman-thing with the not-SG510 rather than using it in a limited, "RPK" style role.

Well, yeah, the "PDW" was basically invented to sell SMGs to mall ninjas and the like.

And, I'd keep the notljungman in some form.

[Republic of South Carolina]

Reihenfeuerpistolen, 1912 style.


Steyr M1912.

[Bezombia]

Reihenfeuerpistolen, 1912 style.

(Image)
Steyr M1912.

Yes this is a real weapon designed by real gun manufacturers.

Oh yeah and it's fully automatic, too.