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Who will OP the next iteration of the IDT?

Aqizithiuda
36
27%
Benomia
34
25%
Dread Lady Nathicana
6
4%
Kyrusia
3
2%
Purpelia
11
8%
Samoz (Imperializt Russia)
8
6%
Spreewerke
14
10%
Transnapastain
9
7%
Ulfr-Reich / Aethal
3
2%
United states of brazilian nations
10
7%
 
Total votes : 134

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Postby Oaledonia » Wed Dec 25, 2013 7:46 am

Immoren wrote:


Futurmines best mines am I rite?

I want to make one... that can launch stingers...
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Postby Ardavia » Wed Dec 25, 2013 7:57 am

Oaledonia wrote:
Immoren wrote:
Futurmines best mines am I rite?

I want to make one... that can launch stingers...


Stingers as missiles or stingers as needles?

i r confuse
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Postby San-Silvacian » Wed Dec 25, 2013 8:00 am

Ardavia wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:I want to make one... that can launch stingers...


Stingers as missiles or stingers as needles?

i r confuse


Both.
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Postby Spreewerke » Wed Dec 25, 2013 8:02 am

Vigoureux wrote:oh no nothing of the sort. the modifications were added to counteract the weight of the rail system which covers the Foregrip and the top part of the receiver to add on additional sights



I have had the opportunity to handle an FAL with minimal rail additions (receiver cover and bolted-on sections for a flashlight), and it was still quite heavy. However, had the bipod been removed, it may not have been as bad. Can't remember if the buttstock was polymer or cerakoted wood, but I do know the barrel had been shortened a little bit.

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Postby Oaledonia » Wed Dec 25, 2013 8:05 am

Ardavia wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:I want to make one... that can launch stingers...


Stingers as missiles or stingers as needles?

i r confuse

Obviously missiles.
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Postby Ardavia » Wed Dec 25, 2013 8:07 am

Oaledonia wrote:
Ardavia wrote:
Stingers as missiles or stingers as needles?

i r confuse

Obviously missiles.


So, pretty much, an AI-controlled AA launch pod?
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Postby Ardavia » Wed Dec 25, 2013 8:14 am

Question.

For outfitting a military in a PMT/Early FT-minus-FTL setting, would using

-Ballistic weapons for standard issue

-And possibly coil-assisted ballistic weapons as specialist weaponry

-And Laser CIWS, THEL systems and the like for mobile anti-air mounted on trucks

be practical?
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Postby Fordorsia » Wed Dec 25, 2013 8:17 am

Transnapastain wrote:
Spreewerke wrote:

There's probably a reason it's an ex-sniper.

For a deactivated, wall-hanger model such as what Ford is looking for, all that will really matter is whether the numbers all match, whether or not the stock is a refurb. or war-time original, and what condition said stock is in (ditto for the metal). Izhmash vs. Tula depends entirely on his preference in arsenal/logo.


Pardon me for being dense, but who the hell cares if it has matching numbers or what arsenal marks it has if its going to be non-firing and hanging on the wall? You aren't buying it for collection value, you aren't buying it to shoot, you're buying it to remain stationary and spark conversation when you're in a room with guests. All it needs to do, as Spree said in his post, is look pretty.

I should grab a picture of my Mosin wall hanger and post it.

@Atbelow: Just lie. :P Tell em fucking Zhukov carried it. Tell em it was the same one used in Enemy at the Gates. Most of the people you tell aren't going to know the difference or be in a position to dispute it. What are they going to do? Demand you take it down off the wall and let them look at it?

Saves you money at no cost in credibility. :P


It's not that I really care about how rare or valuable it is, I'd just like to know what to look for and how to spot something the original owner didn't. If I buy a regular rifle and it turns out it was a sniper model, so be it. It's not like I'll be selling it on for a profit, as I'll always keep it.

Until Cameron gets his way, at least

I don't know if I'd even hang it on my wall. Someone will catch a glimpse of it through my window and the police and their non-existing officer's discretion will deem me a murderous psychopath wielding a French semi-automatic rifle or some shit.


Spreewerke wrote:
Vigoureux wrote:oh no nothing of the sort. the modifications were added to counteract the weight of the rail system which covers the Foregrip and the top part of the receiver to add on additional sights



I have had the opportunity to handle an FAL with minimal rail additions (receiver cover and bolted-on sections for a flashlight), and it was still quite heavy. However, had the bipod been removed, it may not have been as bad. Can't remember if the buttstock was polymer or cerakoted wood, but I do know the barrel had been shortened a little bit.

http://i.imgur.com/3WDE6nd.jpg


I've never seen a muzzle device quite like that.
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Postby Bezombia » Wed Dec 25, 2013 8:20 am

Fordorsia wrote:
Transnapastain wrote:
Pardon me for being dense, but who the hell cares if it has matching numbers or what arsenal marks it has if its going to be non-firing and hanging on the wall? You aren't buying it for collection value, you aren't buying it to shoot, you're buying it to remain stationary and spark conversation when you're in a room with guests. All it needs to do, as Spree said in his post, is look pretty.

I should grab a picture of my Mosin wall hanger and post it.

@Atbelow: Just lie. :P Tell em fucking Zhukov carried it. Tell em it was the same one used in Enemy at the Gates. Most of the people you tell aren't going to know the difference or be in a position to dispute it. What are they going to do? Demand you take it down off the wall and let them look at it?

Saves you money at no cost in credibility. :P


It's not that I really care about how rare or valuable it is, I'd just like to know what to look for and how to spot something the original owner didn't. If I buy a regular rifle and it turns out it was a sniper model, so be it. It's not like I'll be selling it on for a profit, as I'll always keep it.


Until Cameron gets his way, at least

I don't know if I'd even hand it on my wall. Someone will catch a glimpse of it through my window and the police and their non-existing officer's discretion will deem me a murderous psychopath wielding a French semi-automatic rifle or some shit.


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Postby San-Silvacian » Wed Dec 25, 2013 8:21 am

Fordorsia wrote:
Transnapastain wrote:
Pardon me for being dense, but who the hell cares if it has matching numbers or what arsenal marks it has if its going to be non-firing and hanging on the wall? You aren't buying it for collection value, you aren't buying it to shoot, you're buying it to remain stationary and spark conversation when you're in a room with guests. All it needs to do, as Spree said in his post, is look pretty.

I should grab a picture of my Mosin wall hanger and post it.

@Atbelow: Just lie. :P Tell em fucking Zhukov carried it. Tell em it was the same one used in Enemy at the Gates. Most of the people you tell aren't going to know the difference or be in a position to dispute it. What are they going to do? Demand you take it down off the wall and let them look at it?

Saves you money at no cost in credibility. :P


It's not that I really care about how rare or valuable it is, I'd just like to know what to look for and how to spot something the original owner didn't. If I buy a regular rifle and it turns out it was a sniper model, so be it. It's not like I'll be selling it on for a profit, as I'll always keep it.

Until Cameron gets his way, at least

I don't know if I'd even hang it on my wall. Someone will catch a glimpse of it through my window and the police and their non-existing officer's discretion will deem me a murderous psychopath wielding a French semi-automatic rifle or some shit.


Spreewerke wrote:

I have had the opportunity to handle an FAL with minimal rail additions (receiver cover and bolted-on sections for a flashlight), and it was still quite heavy. However, had the bipod been removed, it may not have been as bad. Can't remember if the buttstock was polymer or cerakoted wood, but I do know the barrel had been shortened a little bit.

http://i.imgur.com/3WDE6nd.jpg


I've never seen a muzzle device quite like that.


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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Dec 25, 2013 10:05 am

Oaledonia wrote:
Ardavia wrote:
Stingers as missiles or stingers as needles?

i r confuse

Obviously missiles.

Not that far removed from actual anti-air mines, just launching different things.
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Postby DnalweN acilbupeR » Wed Dec 25, 2013 10:31 am

Do your police, military, and other governmental forces use balaclavas? If yes, are they used for thermal insulation, dust protection or to conceal the wearer's identity?
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Postby San-Silvacian » Wed Dec 25, 2013 10:31 am

DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:Do your police, military, and other governmental forces use balaclavas? If yes, are they used for thermal insulation, dust protection or to conceal the wearer's identity?


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Postby Immoren » Wed Dec 25, 2013 10:32 am

DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:Do your police, military, and other governmental forces use balaclavas? If yes, are they used for thermal insulation, dust protection or to conceal the wearer's identity?


Part of cold weather gear.
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Postby Fordorsia » Wed Dec 25, 2013 10:42 am

DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:Do your police, military, and other governmental forces use balaclavas? If yes, are they used for thermal insulation, dust protection or to conceal the wearer's identity?


Nope. They just use scarves if it gets colder than normal.
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Postby Ardavia » Wed Dec 25, 2013 10:43 am

DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:Do your police, military, and other governmental forces use balaclavas? If yes, are they used for thermal insulation, dust protection or to conceal the wearer's identity?


Standard issue as part of cold climate gear for military forces, the police also get issued thinner ones for concealing their identity.
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Postby DnalweN acilbupeR » Wed Dec 25, 2013 10:45 am

iirc some Eastern European states issue them to their police to shield their identity for when they interact with organized crime elements.. what's your take on that? in theory it sounds alright but the policemen may now abuse their powers seeing how they couldn't be identified. Is a special procedure in place to allow victims of police brutality to report this behavior? E.g. if you can give evidence for the deed (for example if you have bruises or whatever) . . . are the names of the police officers publicized before or after it's proven they are in fact guilty? Or is their identity not publicized at all and the reason for whatever administrative/disciplinary action taken is held secret?

EDIT: Obviously assuming they have working judicial and police systems which they probably don't
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Postby New Visegrad » Wed Dec 25, 2013 11:00 am

DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:Do your police, military, and other governmental forces use balaclavas? If yes, are they used for thermal insulation, dust protection or to conceal the wearer's identity?

No, just a face-scarf under the helmet. Between that and the HUD visor they're pretty anonymous, though.
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Wed Dec 25, 2013 11:22 am

DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:Do your police, military, and other governmental forces use balaclavas? If yes, are they used for thermal insulation, dust protection or to conceal the wearer's identity?

Balaclavas are really only seen in the east, in the Torc mountain chain.
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Postby DnalweN acilbupeR » Wed Dec 25, 2013 11:26 am

QUESTION: is there any firearm in RL that can switch between side ejection and bottom ejection?
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Lyttenburgh wrote:all this is a damning enough evidence to proove you of being an edgy butthurt 'murican teenager with the sole agenda of prooving to the uncaring bitch Web, that "You Have A Point!"
Lyttenburgh wrote:Either that, or, you were gang-raped by commi-nazi russian Spetznaz kill team, who then painted all walls in your house in hammer and sickles, and then viped their asses with the stars and stripes banner in your yard. That's the only logical explanation.

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Postby Purpelia » Wed Dec 25, 2013 11:35 am

DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:QUESTION: is there any firearm in RL that can switch between side ejection and bottom ejection?

Can't you just make a deflector out of a piece of metal?
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Postby The Soodean Imperium » Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:44 pm

DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:Do your police, military, and other governmental forces use balaclavas? If yes, are they used for thermal insulation, dust protection or to conceal the wearer's identity?

Elite infantry teams and special forces are issued balaclavas as a thermal/dust shield and to conceal the wearer's identity. In some cases the fabric is treated to offer mild protection from weak chemical agents (i.e., tear gas thrown by insurgents), but in practice these are rarely worn as the thick material hinders breathing and is of dubious effectiveness in the face of a conventional chemical attack. In recent years there has been a push to make the balaclava a standard-issue part of the Winter Pattern Uniform's cold weather kit, but as of now most soldiers make do with scarves wrapped around the lower face and neck.
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Postby Ardavia » Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:57 pm

20mm multi-gun array for heavy firepower in military installations in mountains: Y/N?

(More specifically, they'd be used to hold off attacking helicopters, planes and missiles, together with SAM missiles, CIWS systems and other countermeasures, as well as possibly lay down fire support against ground forces advancing towards the mountain)
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Postby Sevvania » Wed Dec 25, 2013 1:09 pm

DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:Do your police, military, and other governmental forces use balaclavas? If yes, are they used for thermal insulation, dust protection or to conceal the wearer's identity?

The Sevvanian military has been known to use balaclavas primarily for dust protection, although they are also used in situations that would requite the wearer's identity to be concealed.
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Postby DnalweN acilbupeR » Wed Dec 25, 2013 1:27 pm

Purpelia wrote:
DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:QUESTION: is there any firearm in RL that can switch between side ejection and bottom ejection?

Can't you just make a deflector out of a piece of metal?


the idea was to have a dual feed M249 SAW although thats probably not such a great idea
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The Emerald Dawn wrote:I award you no points, and have sent people to make sure your parents refrain from further breeding.
Lyttenburgh wrote:all this is a damning enough evidence to proove you of being an edgy butthurt 'murican teenager with the sole agenda of prooving to the uncaring bitch Web, that "You Have A Point!"
Lyttenburgh wrote:Either that, or, you were gang-raped by commi-nazi russian Spetznaz kill team, who then painted all walls in your house in hammer and sickles, and then viped their asses with the stars and stripes banner in your yard. That's the only logical explanation.

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