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Who will OP the next iteration of the IDT?

Aqizithiuda
36
27%
Benomia
34
25%
Dread Lady Nathicana
6
4%
Kyrusia
3
2%
Purpelia
11
8%
Samoz (Imperializt Russia)
8
6%
Spreewerke
14
10%
Transnapastain
9
7%
Ulfr-Reich / Aethal
3
2%
United states of brazilian nations
10
7%
 
Total votes : 134

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Puzikas
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Postby Puzikas » Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:50 pm

San-Silvacian wrote:(Image)

COMRADE, I OF INTRODUCE YOU TO ESTOVAKIAN RIFLE OF ASSAULTING. IS CHAMBERED IN 5.45X39MM, BUT CHAMBERINGS IN 7.62X39MM IS ALSO AVAILABLE IF WISH FOR MORE KILLING THAN PENETRATIONING IS OF REASONABLE, I UNDERSTAND.

IS TO BE DROPPED BY IL-76 IN MILLIONS TO AFRICAN NATIONS FOR ATTACKING OF ANTO PUSSIES IN SUPPORT OF GLORIOUS KC CAUSE.

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Is there any sensible reason to make it so that your MG can take the magazines of your service rifle?


Well the PKM is a general purpose machine gun, used at the platoon or company level instead of the squad. While the M249 is issued 2 per squad into the US Army since its a light machine gun.

You can compare the two, being high capacity, belt-fed machine guns, but thats like comparing an M16 to an M82 in the fact they use magazines and are rifles.

Also the magazines are for in a SHTF situation, you need to have everyone firing but either your out of belts or it'd take to much time to load a belt, you can call for a magazine or get one off a fallen comrade and use it. User warning though, you'll ruin the magazine because the bolt carrier group fucks up the feeding lips.

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It would be so you can have it loaded when on the move without having to have a belt hanging from it for the whole time you're walking, or when you run out of belts you can still use your friend's magazines.


You will always have a belt loaded when moving around. You'll have a starter belt of 100 rounds or so with M249s and 50 rounds with the M240B so while you lay down some quick fire you're crew or buddies will be breaking out the 200 rounds for the M249 or the 100 rounds for the M240B to load in so by the time the last rounds from your belt are fired off, you have a fresh belt for you.


I am the leader of the KC and I not only support this idea, I demand it happens.

Also the PKM is said to be issued at the level of platoon or company. In practice you might see them two per platoon, three per platoon, or in some instances in every squad and then one extra.

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Postby Purpelia » Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:52 pm

Black Hand wrote:so given the response the better question would be is it worth it to design something completely new compared to just doing a straight rip of the MG3/MG42 in 7.62X55

If your round is a x55 I would suggest going with the MG51. It's kind of like MG42 and MG3 but designed by pros for 7.5x55 Swiss which I assume your round is related to.
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Postby Black Hand » Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:52 pm

Bezombia wrote:
Black Hand wrote:so given the response the better question would be is it worth it to design something completely new compared to just doing a straight rip of the MG3/MG42 in 7.62X55


Just use the PKP chambered in whatever you want. Gotta git' dat force air cooling swag.

That will come later with the Ironman backpack feed bullpup forced air cooling GPMG

Purpelia wrote:
Black Hand wrote:so given the response the better question would be is it worth it to design something completely new compared to just doing a straight rip of the MG3/MG42 in 7.62X55

If your round is a x55 I would suggest going with the MG51. It's kind of like MG42 and MG3 but designed by pros for 7.5x55 Swiss which I assume your round is related to.
Not at all related. it's actually a modified 7.62X54R
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Postby Premislyd » Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:55 pm

There's nothing different between the MG42 and MG51 anyways besides the round it's chambered in.
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Postby Purpelia » Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:56 pm

Premislyd wrote:There's nothing different between the MG42 and MG51 anyways besides the round it's chambered in.

Presumably though if his round was based off the 7.5x55 which it isn't (making the point pointless) he would have to change less things for it to fit.
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Postby Fordorsia » Tue Feb 25, 2014 6:11 pm

Proof that training>equipment

Kind of NSFW if you don't like seeing people get shot.
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Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

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Postby Romic » Tue Feb 25, 2014 6:14 pm

That man deserves an award.
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Postby Fordorsia » Tue Feb 25, 2014 6:15 pm

Romic wrote:That man deserves an award.


The Darwin award.

High fives all round. I am Ford. I am glory.
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San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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Anemos Major
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Postby Anemos Major » Tue Feb 25, 2014 6:21 pm

Fordorsia wrote:
Romic wrote:That man deserves an award.


The Darwin award.

High fives all round. I am Ford. I am glory.


Doesn't quite reach that level.

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Postby Fordorsia » Tue Feb 25, 2014 6:24 pm

Anemos Major wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:
The Darwin award.

High fives all round. I am Ford. I am glory.


Doesn't quite reach that level.


We must reverse engineer this technology and use it in war.
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San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.


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Postby Fordorsia » Tue Feb 25, 2014 6:36 pm

Gallia- wrote:
Romic wrote:That man deserves an award.


A dishonorable discharge would be enough.


If he survived. Then again, being killed in combat kind of is a dishonorable discharge.
Pro: Swords
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San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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Postby Bezombia » Tue Feb 25, 2014 6:37 pm

Fordorsia wrote:
Gallia- wrote:
A dishonorable discharge would be enough.


If he survived. Then again, being killed in combat kind of is a dishonorable discharge.


*insert comment about "glorious discharge" here*
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Tue Feb 25, 2014 6:51 pm

Worst part is he probably got a Purple Heart and a pat on the back.
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Postby San-Silvacian » Tue Feb 25, 2014 6:57 pm

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Fuk yeh

really early version, getting the big shit down.
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Postby Nua Corda » Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:04 pm

Fordorsia wrote:Proof that training>equipment

Kind of NSFW if you don't like seeing people get shot.


So, this fellow decides it's a good idea to stand up in the open solo-firing a GPMG, while being shot at. Shit goes expectedly awry, and in the process of getting shot, he drops his weapon and dives into the Humvee. And we care for some reason?
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Postby Fordorsia » Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:04 pm

San-Silvacian wrote:(Image)

Fuk yeh

really early version, getting the big shit down.


Why would you use two different materials for the furniture?

Nua Corda wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:Proof that training>equipment

Kind of NSFW if you don't like seeing people get shot.


So, this fellow decides it's a good idea to stand up in the open solo-firing a GPMG, while being shot at. Shit goes expectedly awry, and in the process of getting shot, he drops his weapon and dives into the Humvee. And we care for some reason?


What, like, "we" as in the thread and me posting it here or what?
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San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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Postby Anemos Major » Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:10 pm

Fordorsia wrote:Why would you use two different materials for the furniture?


Design by committee.

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Postby Yes Im Biop » Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:14 pm

Looks like it didn't go through all the way. Should of survived. Also it hasent been posted in a while. And corda hasn't had an Anuerism in a while

Image


MK3 with cased ammo. Not the hoped (And thanks to arch) Cased telescopic ammo and loaded and unloaded 10 gague metal storm shotgun
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Postby Nua Corda » Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:21 pm

Fordorsia wrote:
San-Silvacian wrote:(Image)

Fuk yeh

really early version, getting the big shit down.


Why would you use two different materials for the furniture?

Nua Corda wrote:
So, this fellow decides it's a good idea to stand up in the open solo-firing a GPMG, while being shot at. Shit goes expectedly awry, and in the process of getting shot, he drops his weapon and dives into the Humvee. And we care for some reason?


What, like, "we" as in the thread and me posting it here or what?


The MMW Hivemind. It seems like people care about this for some reason. It just looks like another stupid person doing something stupid, on a stupid day in stupid Afghanistan to me. Which doesn't seem all that remarkable given the level of stupid involved in that war on a regular basis.
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Postby Fordorsia » Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:35 pm

Nua Corda wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:
Why would you use two different materials for the furniture?



What, like, "we" as in the thread and me posting it here or what?


The MMW Hivemind. It seems like people care about this for some reason. It just looks like another stupid person doing something stupid, on a stupid day in stupid Afghanistan to me. Which doesn't seem all that remarkable given the level of stupid involved in that war on a regular basis.


It just seems like a valid thing to point out to anyone who may be new to the thread or whatever. You can be given good equipment, like that guy has, but still have shit training that gets you killed.
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San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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Postby Nua Corda » Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:55 pm

Fordorsia wrote:
Nua Corda wrote:
The MMW Hivemind. It seems like people care about this for some reason. It just looks like another stupid person doing something stupid, on a stupid day in stupid Afghanistan to me. Which doesn't seem all that remarkable given the level of stupid involved in that war on a regular basis.


It just seems like a valid thing to point out to anyone who may be new to the thread or whatever. You can be given good equipment, like that guy has, but still have shit training that gets you killed.


His equipment looked like a hodgepodge, and the typical loadout of a US-backed Stan, but point taken.
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Postby Nua Corda » Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:26 pm

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WIP of a Volkspistol-style stamped steel handgun I came up with.

It's made primarily of stamped parts, using an off-the-shelf extruded metal pipe for the slide. In terms of mechanism, it's a single-action, striker-fired gas retarded blowback. The safety is basically a K31 safety. You pull back the striker, twist it 90 degrees and lower it. This decocks the weapon and locks the slide. As one can imagine, most soldiers don't bother with it. It's designed first and formost to be cheap, simple and quick to manufacture, with limited tools. I'm aware that it doesn't have sights or a mag release yet. Sights will either be tunnel style, or simple notch and post, while the mag release will be a european-style heel release.
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Postby Tyranniod overlords » Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:32 pm

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basic armor of our standing army troops. It is next generation tech style armor. light weight relatively, and great protection. It can be solar powered, static electricity-powered, and can be powered by water (like hydrogen cells), as well as basic gasoline.

http://www.space.com/3311-super-soldiers-tomorrow-army-technology.html

http://rob-cavanna.deviantart.com/art/S ... -175895957

soldier in "Dragon-Slayer" armor with his equipment (i would have posted the above image, but apparently it is too large. please look at it to understand what the below comment refers too)

the melee weapons shown are used in case of the undead that sometimes appear now and then, when soldiers run out of ammunition.
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Postby Coltarin » Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:30 pm

Tyranniod overlords wrote:(Image)

basic armor of our standing army troops. It is next generation tech style armor. light weight relatively, and great protection. It can be solar powered, static electricity-powered, and can be powered by water (like hydrogen cells), as well as basic gasoline.

http://www.space.com/3311-super-soldiers-tomorrow-army-technology.html

http://rob-cavanna.deviantart.com/art/S ... -175895957

soldier in "Dragon-Slayer" armor with his equipment (i would have posted the above image, but apparently it is too large. please look at it to understand what the below comment refers too)

the melee weapons shown are used in case of the undead that sometimes appear now and then, when soldiers run out of ammunition.

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