NS infantry discussion thread. Mark II

[Deutsche Demokratischer Volksstaat]

The MPi-K-93; basically AK-74 derivative with more extensive use of synthetics in the furniture and issued with translucent magazines of indigenous design. M/90 ammunition is an indigenous development of the 7N10 cartridge, primary difference being the use of polymer in the case, reducing weight from 10.7g to 8.025g per cartridge.



Image depicts a MPi-KS-93, the folding stock version.

In Service: 1993-Present
Users: Nationale Volksarmee; Various Branches

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Designed: 1993
Manufacturer: Waffenamt Abteilung, Volksfabrik
Produced: 1993-Present
Number Built: ~1,800,000

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Weight: 3.1 kg
Length: 943 mm
Barrel Length: 415 mm

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Cartridge: 5.45x39mm M/90
Action: Gas-Operated, Rotating Bolt
Rate of Fire: 650 rpm
Muzzle Velocity: 900 m/s
Effective Range: 500 m
Feed System: 30/45-Round Detachable Box Magazine or 60-Round Detachable Casket Box Magazine
Sights: Iron Sights (Provision for mounting of optics by means of rail system in later 'M' models)

[Aethal]

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I do like it, but it could do with a bit more Wieger STG-940 series thrown into the mix.


Just my two cents.

[Aethal]

Oh, and prepare thineselves for Cold War scifi inspired goodies.


One fine example is this, a 14.5mm(.570) caseless slug.

The version on the left seems a bit longer, yet more handwavium derived than the usual NS caseless handwavery; yet, in contrast, the more squat "thumpery" vibe-bearing version seems to match the sidearm and subsequent carbine designs more.

Please state your opinions and offer suggestions if you have them, but remember, Nation states pseudo-scifi handwavery is shown at it's best right here.

[Aqizithiuda]

Oh, and prepare thineselves for Cold War scifi inspired goodies.


One fine example is this, a 14.5mm(.570) caseless slug.

The version on the left seems a bit longer, yet more handwavium derived than the usual NS caseless handwavery; yet, in contrast, the more squat "thumpery" vibe-bearing version seems to match the sidearm and subsequent carbine designs more.

Please state your opinions and offer suggestions if you have them, but remember, Nation states pseudo-scifi handwavery is shown at it's best right here.

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How does it work, exactly?

[Aethal]

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How does it work, exactly?

I honestly don't know. After watching Aliens for the whothehelknowseth many times, I said to myself "Hey, this caseless gig looks pretty neat.", then just chucked something together in flash. If it could work then I guess the "outer casing" shown to the left is the propellant made up of something or other capable of producing ignited gases and thereby launching a slug down a barrel. The "slug" is the bit to the right methinks.

Less hugely brickhappy scaled picture:



This should be perfect evidence to the fact that I have nary a bloody clue as to what I'm doing in regard to this witchcraft.

[Aqizithiuda]

How does it work, exactly?

I honestly don't know. After watching Aliens for the whothehelknowseth many times, I said to myself "Hey, this caseless gig looks pretty neat.", then just chucked something together in flash. If it could work then I guess the "outer casing" shown to the left is the propellant made up of something or other capable of producing ignited gases and thereby launching a slug down a barrel. The "slug" is the bit to the right methinks.

Less hugely brickhappy scaled picture:



This should be perfect evidence to the fact that I have nary a bloody clue as to what I'm doing in regard to this witchcraft.

You could try modelling it after the 9mm Smith & Wesson caseless round.

[Aethal]

I honestly don't know. After watching Aliens for the whothehelknowseth many times, I said to myself "Hey, this caseless gig looks pretty neat.", then just chucked something together in flash. If it could work then I guess the "outer casing" shown to the left is the propellant made up of something or other capable of producing ignited gases and thereby launching a slug down a barrel. The "slug" is the bit to the right methinks.

Less hugely brickhappy scaled picture:



This should be perfect evidence to the fact that I have nary a bloody clue as to what I'm doing in regard to this witchcraft.

You could try modelling it after the 9mm Smith & Wesson caseless round.

Would ye' kindly elaborate?

[Aqizithiuda]

You could try modelling it after the 9mm Smith & Wesson caseless round.

Would ye' kindly elaborate?

Normally I'd post a link, but my tablet is still fucked up and crashes when I try to copy anything. Do a google image search for "S&W 9mm caseless" and you'll see what I mean.

[Imperializt Russia]

Yep. Those underfolding stocks (and basically all the "wire" folders) are the epitome of "good enough."

Ouch. Anyways, out of curiosity, what do you think of this version of the "AK-47"?

Please don't kill me for showing you the anti-christ of the AK family

Unlike as the game, and the one before it, claim, no Russian would use that.
It's clearly in the ownership of an American.

No.

Okay, I get the feeling you don't like talking about... that thing.
Anyways, since my country doesn't use 5.45mm rounds, are there any other weapons aside from the AKS-74U that I could give to tank crewmen, pilots, etc.?

There was a very early prototype of an AKMSU, which was basically the 7.62 AKS-74u.
The Indians do actually rock a 7.62 conversion of the AKS-74u for their troops. Strictly, I think it's what amounts to an AKMSU receiver kit conversion to their AKM rifles.

[Purpelia]

I have been doing some work on the rear sights for my rifle but don't have the proper time to test them. So here are the specs and the model and I would appreciate it if you could take a look at them and see if the drawing fits the numbers. It's still a very raw beta and all.

Specifications:
The entire unit is 98.5mm long with the graduated rod having a useful length (the bit that is used for sighting) of 88.2mm. When the unit is fully raised it goes up to 7mm from horizontal. The sight is supposed to be graduated up to 1000m and useful up to say at least ~800.

Zoom in and play around with it a bit. Than tell me if it all checks out.
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[Bezombia]

Yep. Those underfolding stocks (and basically all the "wire" folders) are the epitome of "good enough."

Ouch. Anyways, out of curiosity, what do you think of this version of the "AK-47"?

Please don't kill me for showing you the anti-christ of the AK family

At the very least, at least they got the mounting bracket correct.

[Imperializt Russia]

Ouch. Anyways, out of curiosity, what do you think of this version of the "AK-47"?

Please don't kill me for showing you the anti-christ of the AK family

At the very least, at least they got the mounting bracket correct.

Still poor. You can't use the sights if the optic you mount there fails without taking it off.
Can you even release the receiver cover with that rail in place? Looks pretty tight against it.

[Spreewerke]

At the very least, at least they got the mounting bracket correct.

Still poor. You can't use the sights if the optic you mount there fails without taking it off.
Can you even release the receiver cover with that rail in place? Looks pretty tight against it.

The mount itself is quick-detach.

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This looks quite nice.

[Purpelia]

Can anyone check out my sights?

[United states of brazilian nations]

The Average Muzztopian infantryman

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guess i came late to the party but nevertheless.

ACU camouflage?

MY EEEEEYES! YOU'RE KILLING THEM!

seriously though, ACU was a try to make a camouflage that'd be good for all environments and the result was a camo that sucked in almost all, salvo for urban ones, and sofas.

if you really need a camo that performs OK in all environments, you should look at the Multicam. anyways, dedicated camouflage for each environment >>>>> multi-camouflages.

here's a list of camos i consider to be good. i'm no expert however so take it with a bit of salt:

jungle camos:

brazilian lizard (bonus for amazonic environments)
flecktarn
british DPM

desert camos:

MARPAT desert
A-TACS desert
chocolate chip

snow camos:

some finnish camo i can't remember the name

urban camos:

i found this one randomly. no idea what it is
if you want to be badass, just go with plain black clothes.

BOPE approves of plain black uniforms.sadly, the english in the page is not very well-written. taiwan also does, but whatever.

[Spreewerke]

Can anyone check out my sights?

Your sight breaks physics.

[Purpelia]

Can anyone check out my sights?

Your sight breaks physics.

Are they that bad? What did I do wrong?

[Spreewerke]

Your sight breaks physics.

Are they that bad? What did I do wrong?

Your leaf button/block stays perfectly vertical while the leaf itself angles up through it. The slider should stay put, rotating at the same angle as the sight leaf as it is moved forwards.

http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/attach ... large-.jpg

[Aethal]

Crookfur, I need yer' help; please help me identify what the feck this is.


Is it a whitworth minie` ball or sommat?

[Purpelia]

Are they that bad? What did I do wrong?

Your leaf button/block stays perfectly vertical while the leaf itself angles up through it. The slider should stay put, rotating at the same angle as the sight leaf as it is moved forwards.

http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/attach ... large-.jpg

Thanks. I'll get right on that.

[Spreewerke]

Your leaf button/block stays perfectly vertical while the leaf itself angles up through it. The slider should stay put, rotating at the same angle as the sight leaf as it is moved forwards.

http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/attach ... large-.jpg

Thanks. I'll get right on that.

Do you also plan on it doubling as a standing leaf sight/ladder sight? Like what is found on the M91, Arisaka series (and I believe SMLE)?

[Purpelia]

Thanks. I'll get right on that.

Do you also plan on it doubling as a standing leaf sight/ladder sight? Like what is found on the M91, Arisaka series (and I believe SMLE)?

I honestly don't know what you are talking about. What are these standing sights for? I barely understand how the regular sights work beyond: "knob moves along slope, forces rod to move thus moving the rear reference point.

[Aethal]

I wonder.......... would a whitworth projectile work out of a revolver or self-loading rifle?

[Tule]

Crookfur, I need yer' help; please help me identify what the feck this is.


Is it a whitworth minie` ball or sommat?

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Pretty sure that's a .45 Whitworth bullet.

[Aethal]

Crookfur, I need yer' help; please help me identify what the feck this is.


Is it a whitworth minie` ball or sommat?

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Pretty sure that's a .45 Whitworth bullet.

Yes, I hit that conclusion just a minute or two after the post, feeling kind've silly in retrospect.