NS infantry discussion thread. Mark II

[Bezombia]

I'm just going to go out on a limb and say that for example the M14 really isn't comparable to the AN-94.

I'm just going to go out on a limb and say that the AN-94 is not a MMW.

So it's not even worth upgrading to 103's or 109's?

It's worth upgrading to the AK-103, or at the very least, adopting its style of folding stock. You can just make AKMs as you have been but use a side-folding, polymer stock such as is found on the SLR-107 series. They are basically the real-life equivalent of what I'm describing, except your rifles would probably retain the gas block and front sight/muzzle thread design of the AKM since there's not really a reason to switch to '74-pattern on those parts.

Basically this: http://imageshack.us/a/img23/1322/newhalfbakedkp1.jpg

You can either use the triangle stock like they're using or the AK-100-series stock (http://www.slickguns.com/sites/default/ ... 1-94-8.jpg). Both stocks use the same trunnion, so you could start upgrading with the metal ones at first and then adopt the polymer ones later. The biggest advantage of the AK-103 over the AKM is the folding stock and the AK-74 front sight block plus its muzzle brake. The '100-series brakes are much more effective devices than the standard AKM slant.

The AK-109 would be too expensive for minimal positives. Recoil and muzzle movement would be greatly reduced, but you are stuck at using only 16" barrels. Since your carbines would have to use the standard gas system, anyway, there's really no reason not to just have everything use the standard gas system. It lowers production costs, ups parts compatibility, and just makes sense.

Would you actually run into any problems using a normal length gas system with a longer barrel?

[Spirit of Hope]

Question, Can Halo Weapons and infantry armor (including SPARTAN variants) be classified as PMT or FT?

Everything besides the the SPARTAN armor and space ships could probably fit in PMT. Even the early SPARTAN suits could probably get called PMT. Shields and spaceships fall under the heading of FT. But this becomes personal opinion and rule of bro. Don't sank it and stay equal with the other guy.

[Spreewerke]

Alright then, I guess I'll do that, the triangle stock doesn't look all that comfortable though.

As far a folding, metal stocks on AKs go, it's basically the best. I had no issues with it when I fired an AKS-74 clone, but I know Trans., our most glorious moderator, has had comfort issues with it, so it may very well vary person-to-person. That said, Soviet soldiers in Afghanistan would wrap their stocks with a tourniquet and it did two things: kept the sun-exposed metal from burning their face as it was now touching the rubber tourniquet, and that itself proved to act as a cheek rest. Your soldiers would probably do the same if they found the stock uncomfortable.

Either way, the AK-100-series stock is the best stock to ever be fit to an AK-pattern firearm. As soon as you can, get those.

[Sevvania]

Question, Can Halo Weapons and infantry armor (including SPARTAN variants) be classified as PMT or FT?

Depends on the weapon. The BR55-series, the M392 DMR, the M90-series of shotguns, stuff like that could feasibly be PMT. Stuff like MJOLNIR and the Spartan Laser would be considered FT, I think.

[Spreewerke]

Would you actually run into any problems using a normal length gas system with a longer barrel?

RPK.

[Istevia]

Alright then, I guess I'll do that, the triangle stock doesn't look all that comfortable though.

As far a folding, metal stocks on AKs go, it's basically the best. I had no issues with it when I fired an AKS-74 clone, but I know Trans., our most glorious moderator, has had comfort issues with it, so it may very well vary person-to-person. That said, Soviet soldiers in Afghanistan would wrap their stocks with a tourniquet and it did two things: kept the sun-exposed metal from burning their face as it was now touching the rubber tourniquet, and that itself proved to act as a cheek rest. Your soldiers would probably do the same if they found the stock uncomfortable.

Either way, the AK-100-series stock is the best stock to ever be fit to an AK-pattern firearm. As soon as you can, get those.

Alright then, also, having taken a look at some of the other folding stocks on AK's and AK clones, I can only wonder just how much anyone who had to use them hated them.

[Spreewerke]

As far a folding, metal stocks on AKs go, it's basically the best. I had no issues with it when I fired an AKS-74 clone, but I know Trans., our most glorious moderator, has had comfort issues with it, so it may very well vary person-to-person. That said, Soviet soldiers in Afghanistan would wrap their stocks with a tourniquet and it did two things: kept the sun-exposed metal from burning their face as it was now touching the rubber tourniquet, and that itself proved to act as a cheek rest. Your soldiers would probably do the same if they found the stock uncomfortable.

Either way, the AK-100-series stock is the best stock to ever be fit to an AK-pattern firearm. As soon as you can, get those.

Alright then, also, having taken a look at some of the other folding stocks on AK's and AK clones, I can only wonder just how much anyone who had to use them hated them.

The only stock I can remember hating profusely was the AMD-65's. I didn't have a lot of time with the Tantal-style folder, but I've used about everything else (underfolding, AKS-74 stock, fixed stock, Beryl stock, '100-series, and some aftermarket adapters for ACE skeleton stocks, folding buffer tube adapters w/ AR stocks, folding M16A2 stock (that one was weird), a wooden sidefolder, and a very basic stock I made myself). Most of it is having to adapt yourself to the stock. On the range or just plinking in the timber, that's fine, but improvised firing positions in a firefight would suck a lot with pretty much anything that isn't fixed stock or '100-series (and wooden side-folder). The AKS-74 was quite nice, though, as far as all-steel stocks go. The ACE aftermarket stock was also nice; ditto for the AR stock.

Basically anything they made that folded to the left and/or wasn't metal were the better of them.

[Istevia]

Alright then, also, having taken a look at some of the other folding stocks on AK's and AK clones, I can only wonder just how much anyone who had to use them hated them.

The only stock I can remember hating profusely was the AMD-65's. I didn't have a lot of time with the Tantal-style folder, but I've used about everything else (underfolding, AKS-74 stock, fixed stock, Beryl stock, '100-series, and some aftermarket adapters for ACE skeleton stocks, folding buffer tube adapters w/ AR stocks, folding M16A2 stock (that one was weird), a wooden sidefolder, and a very basic stock I made myself). Most of it is having to adapt yourself to the stock. On the range or just plinking in the timber, that's fine, but improvised firing positions in a firefight would suck a lot with pretty much anything that isn't fixed stock or '100-series (and wooden side-folder). The AKS-74 was quite nice, though, as far as all-steel stocks go. The ACE aftermarket stock was also nice; ditto for the AR stock.

Basically anything they made that folded to the left and/or wasn't metal were the better of them.

I was specifically looking at this stock

However, the AMD's stock manages to look even more uncomfortable

[Spreewerke]

I was specifically looking at this stock
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However, the AMD's stock manages to look even more uncomfortable

Yep. Those underfolding stocks (and basically all the "wire" folders) are the epitome of "good enough."

[Istevia]

I was specifically looking at this stock
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However, the AMD's stock manages to look even more uncomfortable

Yep. Those underfolding stocks (and basically all the "wire" folders) are the epitome of "good enough."

Ouch. Anyways, out of curiosity, what do you think of this version of the "AK-47"?

Please don't kill me for showing you the anti-christ of the AK family

[Spreewerke]

Yep. Those underfolding stocks (and basically all the "wire" folders) are the epitome of "good enough."

Ouch. Anyways, out of curiosity, what do you think of this version of the "AK-47"?

Please don't kill me for showing you the anti-christ of the AK family

No.

[Black Hand]

Yep. Those underfolding stocks (and basically all the "wire" folders) are the epitome of "good enough."

Ouch. Anyways, out of curiosity, what do you think of this version of the "AK-47"?

Please don't kill me for showing you the anti-christ of the AK family

this might as well be "I have an AK but what I Really want is an AR"

[Spreewerke]

Ouch. Anyways, out of curiosity, what do you think of this version of the "AK-47"?

Please don't kill me for showing you the anti-christ of the AK family

this might as well be "I have an AK but what I Really want is an AR"

No, that would be this: http://www.thebangswitch.com/krebs-ak-15-the-sexy/

Here is its little brother, the "Ass-Neck" (shit you not, no pun intended): http://www.thebangswitch.com/tag/assneck/

[Black Hand]

this might as well be "I have an AK but what I Really want is an AR"

No, that would be this: http://www.thebangswitch.com/krebs-ak-15-the-sexy/

Here is its little brother, the "Ass-Neck" (shit you not, no pun intended): http://www.thebangswitch.com/tag/assneck/

I believe the proper response is fuck that shit.
if you are going to into AK the into AK with AK mags

[Istevia]

Ouch. Anyways, out of curiosity, what do you think of this version of the "AK-47"?
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Please don't kill me for showing you the anti-christ of the AK family

No.

Okay, I get the feeling you don't like talking about... that thing.
Anyways, since my country doesn't use 5.45mm rounds, are there any other weapons aside from the AKS-74U that I could give to tank crewmen, pilots, etc.?

[Black Hand]

No.

Okay, I get the feeling you don't like talking about... that thing.
Anyways, since my country doesn't use 5.45mm rounds, are there any other weapons aside from the AKS-74U that I could give to tank crewmen, pilots, etc.?

AKMSU
Or a 5.56X45 version of the AKS-74U

[Istevia]

Okay, I get the feeling you don't like talking about... that thing.
Anyways, since my country doesn't use 5.45mm rounds, are there any other weapons aside from the AKS-74U that I could give to tank crewmen, pilots, etc.?

AKMSU
Or a 5.56X45 version of the AKS-74U

We don't really use 5.56. Also, doesn't the AKMSU have some rather horrid recoil or something?

[Aqizithiuda]

With regards to the earlier conversation on the advantages of rifles, if you gave the Nazis G11s, G11 PDWs and G11 LMGs, assuming for tue purpose of this exercise that all work as intended and that ammunition supply problems are no greater than they already were, you would see virtually no change in the outcome of the war. Small arms hardly matter, except in terms of weight and morale.

[Hurtful Thoughts]

Y'know, I just realized...

I've fought mechas in the bunkers of The Parthians, I've fought corprate piracy against Blackhelm confederacy on the seas, the furries of Ryuo Black Islands' landing-grounds, the hellspawn of Ironcia in their cities, thermonuclear wars of Dephire in their hills, the clone-armies of Pudu in the Chitzi swamps, Jedi-ninjas of Hataria in the steppes of Libya, the Kratnan Emperial Superconputer on the 'netscapes, and the necroes of Alidor.

My soldiers have seen things no man was ever meant to see.

Perhaps, we shall start a new chapter of history...

-Hurt 'em plenty.

With regards to the earlier conversation on the advantages of rifles, if you gave the Nazis G11s, G11 PDWs and G11 LMGs, assuming for tue purpose of this exercise that all work as intended and that ammunition supply problems are no greater than they already were, you would see virtually no change in the outcome of the war. Small arms hardly matter, except in terms of weight and morale.

What if we replaced their trucks with HEMTTs?

[Black Hand]

AKMSU
Or a 5.56X45 version of the AKS-74U

We don't really use 5.56. Also, doesn't the AKMSU have some rather horrid recoil or something?

then what do you use?
sorta it recoils like you would expect a super short AKM to recoil.

[Spreewerke]

No, that would be this: http://www.thebangswitch.com/krebs-ak-15-the-sexy/

Here is its little brother, the "Ass-Neck" (shit you not, no pun intended): http://www.thebangswitch.com/tag/assneck/

I believe the proper response is fuck that shit.
if you are going to into AK the into AK with AK mags

I'm really just not that big a fan of Krebs Custom.

I mean, here is a rifle featuring all of their mods (circa 2011):



People pay $2k+ for Krebs Custom firearms, and I have no idea why.

No.

Okay, I get the feeling you don't like talking about... that thing.
Anyways, since my country doesn't use 5.45mm rounds, are there any other weapons aside from the AKS-74U that I could give to tank crewmen, pilots, etc.?

You could just do what India does: AKS-74U, but in 7.62x39mm. Bulgaria also does this, as did Romania and Yugoslavia. The Romanian and Yugo. models (Pm. Md. 90, M92, respectively) weren't quite AKS-74U clones, though, so much as shortened AKMs.

Here's the Indian one: http://i.imgur.com/yvFaeq2.jpg

Bulgarian: http://www.gunpundit.com/2008/SLR-107UR.jpg

Romanian: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... _rifle.jpg

Yugoslavian: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... da/M92.jpg

What I do ICly is this, though, but in 7.62x39mm. I guesstimate this one's barrel length to be right around ten inches: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_4_64/14339 ... 5_SBR.html

[Istevia]

I believe the proper response is fuck that shit.
if you are going to into AK the into AK with AK mags

I'm really just not that big a fan of Krebs Custom.

I mean, here is a rifle featuring all of their mods (circa 2011):



People pay $2k+ for Krebs Custom firearms, and I have no idea why.

Okay, I get the feeling you don't like talking about... that thing.
Anyways, since my country doesn't use 5.45mm rounds, are there any other weapons aside from the AKS-74U that I could give to tank crewmen, pilots, etc.?

You could just do what India does: AKS-74U, but in 7.62x39mm. Bulgaria also does this, as did Romania and Yugoslavia. The Romanian and Yugo. models (Pm. Md. 90, M92, respectively) weren't quite AKS-74U clones, though, so much as shortened AKMs.

Here's the Indian one: http://i.imgur.com/yvFaeq2.jpg

Bulgarian: http://www.gunpundit.com/2008/SLR-107UR.jpg

Romanian: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... _rifle.jpg

Yugoslavian: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... da/M92.jpg

What I do ICly is this, though, but in 7.62x39mm. I guesstimate this one's barrel length to be right around ten inches: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_4_64/14339 ... 5_SBR.html

*looks at tacticool AK*

The recoil isn't as bad as I think it is on those AK's is it?

We don't really use 5.56. Also, doesn't the AKMSU have some rather horrid recoil or something?

then what do you use?
sorta it recoils like you would expect a super short AKM to recoil.

I was posting about wether I should replace my AKM's or not, I'll let you figure that one out.

[Black Hand]

I'm really just not that big a fan of Krebs Custom.

I mean, here is a rifle featuring all of their mods (circa 2011):

(Image)

People pay $2k+ for Krebs Custom firearms, and I have no idea why.





You could just do what India does: AKS-74U, but in 7.62x39mm. Bulgaria also does this, as did Romania and Yugoslavia. The Romanian and Yugo. models (Pm. Md. 90, M92, respectively) weren't quite AKS-74U clones, though, so much as shortened AKMs.

Here's the Indian one: http://i.imgur.com/yvFaeq2.jpg

Bulgarian: http://www.gunpundit.com/2008/SLR-107UR.jpg

Romanian: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... _rifle.jpg

Yugoslavian: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... da/M92.jpg

What I do ICly is this, though, but in 7.62x39mm. I guesstimate this one's barrel length to be right around ten inches: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_4_64/14339 ... 5_SBR.html

*looks at tacticool AK*

The recoil isn't as bad as I think it is on those AK's is it?

then what do you use?
sorta it recoils like you would expect a super short AKM to recoil.

I was posting about wether I should replace my AKM's or not, I'll let you figure that one out.

Do what spree said. Or issue the PP-19-01 or PP-2000.

[Istevia]

Do what spree said. Or issue the PP-19-01 or PP-2000.
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Completely forgot about those two, I think I'll use the PP-19. Also, sorry if I sounded rude when you asked me what bullet caliber I used.

[Black Hand]

Completely forgot about those two, I think I'll use the PP-19. Also, sorry if I sounded rude when you asked my what bullet caliber I used.

not an issue. PP-19 is okay though I would still suggest the PP-19-01 instead. it's a superior model. the PP-2000 is decent and workable and strange as all fuck, message Puzikas for more info on it.