NS infantry discussion thread. Mark II

[Black Hand]

Random question. OICW style gun made out of a 12 gauge saiga and an AK = ultimate close quarters urban warfare operator gun?

Nope I tried flying this by the thread in 9 and 10 its still to heavy to work worth a damn. I tried to do a AK based weapon (saiga 12, Ak-103, PSL anything that uses an AK or RPK reciever) over an AN-94 7.62x39 way to heavy

[New Tsavon]

At a guess, a grenade-launching M44 Mosin.

I'm pretty sure its actually a Steyr-Mannlicher M1895. I have no idea what it's for, though.

Too big for NS

The lineart itself is nice, but, damn, that rifle looks like it was assembled in someones garage.

Btw, could I borrow that statblock you used?

[Imperializt Russia]

At a guess, a grenade-launching M44 Mosin.

I'm pretty sure its actually a Steyr-Mannlicher M1895. I have no idea what it's for, though.

You're right (that it's not a Mosin, certainly). The bolt, magazine and sight are all off.

I've been away for too long.

Apparently, it's a 91/28 Carcano fitted with a 38.5mm grenade launcher.
http://web.archive.org/web/200503020001 ... 8tromb.htm

I google searched the image. Don't.
It brings up the Russian phrase "double-barrelled rifle", and that link (expired, I reclaimed it with Wayback) is within the thread, which is dedicated to the 80.002

[Bezombia]

The lineart itself is nice, but, damn, that rifle looks like it was assembled in someones garage.

[New Tsavon]

The lineart itself is nice, but, damn, that rifle looks like it was assembled in someones garage.

I know the SIG SG 510 exists.

But, that won't change the fact it looks like it was assembled by chechens.

[Bezombia]

I know the SIG SG 510 exists.

But, that won't change the fact it looks like it was assembled by chechens.

Still looks less home made than the AMD-63 though...

[New Tsavon]

I know the SIG SG 510 exists.

But, that won't change the fact it looks like it was assembled by chechens.

Still looks less home made than the AMD-63 though...

AMD-36?

Not ringing any bells here, and google's only giving me airsoft G36's and stuff from NS.

[Bezombia]

Still looks less home made than the AMD-63 though...

AMD-36?

Not ringing any bells here, and google's only giving me airsoft G36's and stuff from NS.

AMD-63.

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

Too big for NS

Name: StG-55 (Stormgevær Model 1955; "Assault rifle, model of the year 1955)

My only issue, asides from my general dislike for the SIG 510, is the price tag. I highly doubt that it'd cost $425 to build one of those.

[New Tsavon]

Powered armor is totally infantry-related, right?

[Oaledonia]

Any experimental helmet integrated battle field information program I can read up on?

[Aqizithiuda]

Random question. OICW style gun made out of a 12 gauge saiga and an AK = ultimate close quarters urban warfare operator gun?

It might be doable, but something like this will be lighter and more compact. Based off info from Puzikas on the MDZ-3, the projectile's lethal radius should be 0.75 metres to 1 metre, and I'll be you could fit four or five pellets of 00 buck into the shell if you modified it to completely encapsulate the HE projectile.

Question!

Is CTA ammunition any more expensive to produce than the standard?

I'm looking at a companion rifle for the Arch G11. Something cheap, and slightly more conventional. I'm thinking bullpup Kalashnikov thing firing a non caseless 3.92x30mm round.

Cost should be about on par, I believe.

I'm pretty sure its actually a Steyr-Mannlicher M1895. I have no idea what it's for, though.

You're right (that it's not a Mosin, certainly). The bolt, magazine and sight are all off.

I've been away for too long.

Apparently, it's a 91/28 Carcano fitted with a 38.5mm grenade launcher.
http://web.archive.org/web/200503020001 ... 8tromb.htm

I google searched the image. Don't.
It brings up the Russian phrase "double-barrelled rifle", and that link (expired, I reclaimed it with Wayback) is within the thread, which is dedicated to the 80.002

I mercilessly ripped this off in both TF and my conceptual only pseudo-Sumerian nation, only with the grenade launcher having it's own bolt.

[Black Hand]

Apparently, it's a 91/28 Carcano fitted with a 38.5mm grenade launcher.
http://web.archive.org/web/200503020001 ... 8tromb.htm

In 1928 he was made a special trumpet launches bombs that had to be given in each five men for every rifle squad........This model trumpet was removed from service as early as 1934.

Wut.
Still that's a cool idea.

[Vareiln]

Too big for NS

Name: StG-55 (Stormgevær Model 1955; "Assault rifle, model of the year 1955)
Origin: High Kingdom of Estovnia
Designer: Ragnar Thorikssen
Manufacturer: Skrattafell Arms Forge
Produced: 1954-Present
In service: 1955-Present
Cost: $425
Weight: 4.00 kg
Length: 1100 mm
Barrel length: 545 mm
Cartridge: 8.72x66mm Jegermanjensen
Action: Roller-delayed blowback
Rate of fire: 520 rpm
Effective range: 1000+ m with optics
Feed system: 20 round detachable box magazine
Sights: Front post, rear aperture

Loving the SIG-510-esque appearance.

[Vigoureux]

Currently we issue the FN FAL which has served the Royal Armed Forces since 1965 and in 2002 Picatinny Rail kits were issued to attack to any and if possible all FN FAL's currently used by active duty soldiers. The SCAR-H is used in small numbers by our nation special forces as well. We also issue CZ 75 as the main side arm of out Armed a Forces and replaced the Browning Hi-Power in 1997.

We also use the M249 light machine gun, Negev NG7, Heckler & Koch PSG1 (but the Remington 700 is popular too), M2 Browning with a small number of CIS 50MG's in use.

Our troops wear military gear patterned in M05 camouflage. They also are given knee and elbow pads with protective eye glasses, and a Balaclava.

So aside from the addition of of the FAL OSW what other addition or critics do you guys have?

[Mallaska]

Currently we issue the FN FAL which has served the Royal Armed Forces since 1965 and in 2002 Picatinny Rail kits were issued to attack to any and if possible all FN FAL's currently used by active duty soldiers. The SCAR-H is used in small numbers by our nation special forces as well. We also issue CZ 75 as the main side arm of out Armed a Forces and replaced the Browning Hi-Power in 1997.

We also use the M249 light machine gun, Negev NG7, Heckler & Koch PSG1 (but the Remington 700 is popular too), M2 Browning with a small number of CIS 50MG's in use.

Our troops wear military gear patterned in M05 camouflage. They also are given knee and elbow pads with protective eye glasses, and a Balaclava.

So aside from the addition of of the FAL OSW what other addition or critics do you guys have?

I'd suggest an M240 over the M249 as your LMG. If your service rifle is a battle rifle, you'll just be wasting money paying for tons of extra 5.56x45mm NATO for the M249s, while you can have ammunition commonality between the FAL and M240.

[Premislyd]

Too big for NS

Name: StG-55 (Stormgevær Model 1955; "Assault rifle, model of the year 1955)

My only issue, asides from my general dislike for the SIG 510, is the price tag. I highly doubt that it'd cost $425 to build one of those.

If anything, I'm undervaluing it.

[Oaledonia]

Any experimental helmet integrated battle field information program I can read up on?

Anything at all?

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

If anything, I'm undervaluing it.

I suppose I really should have asked if $425 was the manufacturing or retail cost.

[Doppio Giudici]

So aside from the addition of of the FAL OSW what other addition or critics do you guys have?

I'd suggest an M240 over the M249 as your LMG. If your service rifle is a battle rifle, you'll just be wasting money paying for tons of extra 5.56x45mm NATO for the M249s, while you can have ammunition commonality between the FAL and M240.

I recommend you avoid urban combat and try to make sure your men don't have to walk to far.

[The Republic of Lanos]

I recommend you avoid urban combat and try to make sure your men don't have to walk to far.

What is that, some sort of airsoft war game?

[Aqizithiuda]

I'd suggest an M240 over the M249 as your LMG. If your service rifle is a battle rifle, you'll just be wasting money paying for tons of extra 5.56x45mm NATO for the M249s, while you can have ammunition commonality between the FAL and M240.

I recommend you avoid urban combat and try to make sure your men don't have to walk to far.

Given that regular forces began to adopt the M240 over the M249 in Afghanistan, weight, ammunition bulk and mountains aside, and that the Russians had no problems with their GPMG in Chechnya, I'd say that the M240 will do okay in the suggested role.

[Lemanrussland]

I recommend you avoid urban combat and try to make sure your men don't have to walk to far.

Given that regular forces began to adopt the M240 over the M249 in Afghanistan, weight, ammunition bulk and mountains aside, and that the Russians had no problems with their GPMG in Chechnya, I'd say that the M240 will do okay in the suggested role.

If you go to the M240, you will probably have to change how your squad is structured. You can't just drop in the M240 into the so-called "balanced" squad structure (two identical fireteams, each with an automatic weapon and some riflemen under a squad leader), that will be too much weight, and the weapon would be quite clumsy (clearing houses with the M249 is bad enough as it is).

You will have to go to what the US Army refers to as the "classical" squad arrangement, with an MG team and rifle team(s) under a Squad leader. The gunner will probably need an assistant, and ammo would need to be spread across the entire squad.

[Aqizithiuda]

Given that regular forces began to adopt the M240 over the M249 in Afghanistan, weight, ammunition bulk and mountains aside, and that the Russians had no problems with their GPMG in Chechnya, I'd say that the M240 will do okay in the suggested role.

If you go to the M240, you will probably have to change how your squad is structured. You can't just drop in the M240 into the so-called "balanced" squad structure (two identical fireteams, each with an automatic weapon and some riflemen under a squad leader), that will be too much weight, and the weapon would be quite clumsy (clearing houses with the M249 is bad enough as it is).

And that is why you issue gunners with sidearms.

You will have to go to what the US Army refers to as the "classical" squad arrangement, with an MG team and rifle team(s) under a Squad leader. The gunner will probably need an assistant, and ammo would need to be spread across the entire squad.

Probably, although I'm sure it could be made to work with the "balanced" squad if you don't mind the extra weight/ditching any LAWs/extra grenades for the grenadier. I'm not saying that would be ideal, just that it's possible.

[Doppio Giudici]

Hey guys and galls....would it be a good idea to blend the AK-107 and the RPK-74M