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Voting

Conservative Alliance
32
21%
Independence Party
14
9%
Alliance for Freedom
17
11%
Liberal Democratic Party
24
16%
Green Party
6
4%
Social Democratic Party
25
16%
Pirate Party
19
12%
Left Alliance
17
11%
 
Total votes : 154

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Dalluria
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Postby Dalluria » Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:00 pm

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New Socialist South Africa
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Postby New Socialist South Africa » Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:02 am

Support to the Liberal and Social Democrat Parties, they best represent the poor and down trodden. Also vote 99 and 100, I feel so special.
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Dalluria
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Postby Dalluria » Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:51 am

bump
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Postby Flaming Soul Forces » Thu Oct 17, 2013 11:33 am

We support the Liberals and Pirates
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Dalluria
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Postby Dalluria » Thu Oct 17, 2013 11:45 am

Voting is over.
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Dalluria
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Postby Dalluria » Thu Oct 17, 2013 12:01 pm

RESULTS:
Image
CONSERVATIVE 90
LIBERAL 68
FREEDOM 39
SDP 31
LEFT 30
INDEPENDENCE 27
PIRATE 21
GREEN 9

OOC: I changed it a little bit to make it more realistic.
Any comments?
Coalition suggestions?
One interesting topic: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=266135 Present your people and culture.

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New Socialist South Africa
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Postby New Socialist South Africa » Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:39 am

Dalluria wrote:RESULTS:
(Image)
CONSERVATIVE 90
LIBERAL 68
FREEDOM 39
SDP 31
LEFT 30
INDEPENDENCE 27
PIRATE 21
GREEN 9

OOC: I changed it a little bit to make it more realistic.
Any comments?
Coalition suggestions?

A 159 seat Left Wing Coalition between the Liberal Democrats (68), Socialist Democrats (31), Left Alliance (30), Pirate Party (21) and Green Party (9) seems to be the only real possibility for a government. How the Conservative Party got so many votes so quickly is highly suspicious though. If this was a real election with results being streamed in as they were counted I would suspect there was some vote rigging going on when the Conservative Party had their sudden leap in the polls. Also how do the Pirate Party have less seats than parties they beat in the number of votes? This feels like the 2001 US election were George W Bush ended up winning off a highly controversial decision by the Electoral College and despite openly losing the popular vote.
Last edited by New Socialist South Africa on Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:47 am, edited 2 times in total.
"I find that offensive" is never a sound counter argument.
"Men in general are quick to believe that which they wish to be true." - Gaius Julius Caesar
"I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it's for or against." - Malcolm X
"The soul of a nation can be seen in the way it treats its children" - Nelson Mandela
The wealth of humanity should be determined by that of the poorest individual.

"What makes a man

Strength enough to build a home
Time enough to hold a child
and Love enough to break a heart".

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Postby Geadland » Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:18 am

Given that the left-wing and right-wing blocs hold almost exactly half of the seats each, it would be better to opt for a grand coalition with an alliance of the Conservatives and Liberals. Between them they would have a majority of 2 seats so they would need another party on board, to provide "cushioning" against defections and rebellious backbenchers. The Alliance for Freedom could fill this role, and thus the coalition would hold 197 seats - a majority of 79. The Green Party could also suffice (they are described as having "mixed centre-right" views on economic issues) and this would give the coalition 167 seats - a majority of 19.
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Dalluria
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Postby Dalluria » Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:04 am

New Socialist South Africa wrote:
Dalluria wrote:RESULTS:
(Image)
CONSERVATIVE 90
LIBERAL 68
FREEDOM 39
SDP 31
LEFT 30
INDEPENDENCE 27
PIRATE 21
GREEN 9

OOC: I changed it a little bit to make it more realistic.
Any comments?
Coalition suggestions?

A 159 seat Left Wing Coalition between the Liberal Democrats (68), Socialist Democrats (31), Left Alliance (30), Pirate Party (21) and Green Party (9) seems to be the only real possibility for a government. How the Conservative Party got so many votes so quickly is highly suspicious though. If this was a real election with results being streamed in as they were counted I would suspect there was some vote rigging going on when the Conservative Party had their sudden leap in the polls. Also how do the Pirate Party have less seats than parties they beat in the number of votes? This feels like the 2001 US election were George W Bush ended up winning off a highly controversial decision by the Electoral College and despite openly losing the popular vote.


Conservatives and Liberals got more seats than popular vote because of the d'hondt method which favors bigger parties. Coalition between SDP/Left Alliance and Pirates would be unnatural because SDP and Left favor big government and Pirates are a minarchist party.
OOC: I reduced votes of pirates because it's unrealistic for a single-issue party to be a second largest. Also, I wanted two strong parties, so I gave Conservatives and Liberals a little bit more seats than they had in poll.
Last edited by Dalluria on Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:09 am, edited 3 times in total.
One interesting topic: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=266135 Present your people and culture.

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Dalluria
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Postby Dalluria » Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:08 am

Geadland wrote:Given that the left-wing and right-wing blocs hold almost exactly half of the seats each, it would be better to opt for a grand coalition with an alliance of the Conservatives and Liberals. Between them they would have a majority of 2 seats so they would need another party on board, to provide "cushioning" against defections and rebellious backbenchers. The Alliance for Freedom could fill this role, and thus the coalition would hold 197 seats - a majority of 79. The Green Party could also suffice (they are described as having "mixed centre-right" views on economic issues) and this would give the coalition 167 seats - a majority of 19.

Not bad idea.
One interesting topic: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=266135 Present your people and culture.

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Dalluria
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Postby Dalluria » Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:13 am

Here are possibilities
a) grand coalition 1: Conservative-Liberal-Freedom
b) grand coalition 2: Conservative-Liberal-Green
c) right coalition: Conservative-Freedom-Independence-Green
d) left coalition: Liberal-SDP-Left-Green-Pirate (problem with Pirates' minarchist policy)
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Regenburg
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Postby Regenburg » Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:16 am

Dalluria wrote:Here are possibilities
a) grand coalition 1: Conservative-Liberal-Freedom
b) grand coalition 2: Conservative-Liberal-Green
c) right coalition: Conservative-Freedom-Independence-Green
d) left coalition: Liberal-SDP-Left-Green-Pirate (problem with Pirates' minarchist policy)

pirates would work great with lefties actually
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New Socialist South Africa
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Postby New Socialist South Africa » Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:54 am

Dalluria wrote:
New Socialist South Africa wrote: A 159 seat Left Wing Coalition between the Liberal Democrats (68), Socialist Democrats (31), Left Alliance (30), Pirate Party (21) and Green Party (9) seems to be the only real possibility for a government. How the Conservative Party got so many votes so quickly is highly suspicious though. If this was a real election with results being streamed in as they were counted I would suspect there was some vote rigging going on when the Conservative Party had their sudden leap in the polls. Also how do the Pirate Party have less seats than parties they beat in the number of votes? This feels like the 2001 US election were George W Bush ended up winning off a highly controversial decision by the Electoral College and despite openly losing the popular vote.


Conservatives and Liberals got more seats than popular vote because of the d'hondt method which favors bigger parties. Coalition between SDP/Left Alliance and Pirates would be unnatural because SDP and Left favor big government and Pirates are a minarchist party.
OOC: I reduced votes of pirates because it's unrealistic for a single-issue party to be a second largest. Also, I wanted two strong parties, so I gave Conservatives and Liberals a little bit more seats than they had in poll.

Fair enough. The Pirate Party are obviously going to do very well on an online simulation game (because of their support of personal internet privacy) and the Conservatives would obviously suffer (because of the lack of many old traditionalist conservatives). I think the Pirate Party is much more likely to support left wing / socialist parties because of the younger power base it shares with them as opposed to the generally more middle aged power base of the conservatives. Also, while it's not official, I predict the Pirate Party will end up supporting more socially liberal and pro-poor politics as opposed to socially conservative and pro-business politics.
"I find that offensive" is never a sound counter argument.
"Men in general are quick to believe that which they wish to be true." - Gaius Julius Caesar
"I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it's for or against." - Malcolm X
"The soul of a nation can be seen in the way it treats its children" - Nelson Mandela
The wealth of humanity should be determined by that of the poorest individual.

"What makes a man

Strength enough to build a home
Time enough to hold a child
and Love enough to break a heart".

Terry Pratchett


Olthar wrote:Anyone who buys "x-ray specs" expecting them to be real deserves to lose their money.

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Dalluria
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Founded: Oct 16, 2013
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Postby Dalluria » Sat Oct 19, 2013 5:29 am

Here is government:
CONSERVATIVE-LIBERAL-GREEN

Conservative Alliance:
-prime minister
-Ministry of the Interior
-Ministry for Foreign Affairs
-Ministry of Education
-Ministry of Culture and Tourism
-Ministry of Science, Technology and Development
-Ministry of Economy
-Ministry of the Gender Equality

Liberal Democratic Party
-deputy prime minister 1
-Ministry of Justice
-Ministry of Finance
-Ministry of Infrastructure and Transport
-Ministry of Defence
-Ministry of Labour, Health and Social Services

Green Party
-deputy prime minister 2
-Ministry of Agriculture and Forestry
-Ministry of the Environment and Energy
One interesting topic: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=266135 Present your people and culture.

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Maya Kaya Raya
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Founded: Oct 23, 2013
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Postby Maya Kaya Raya » Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:51 am

A Great Hello to all the Gentlemen and Ladies in Dalluria, We from Maya Kaya Raya pray to god for all the people in Dalluria is living with peace and harmony in Dallurian and will be lead by a successful leader that will bring Dalluria more wealthy and more progressive. Amen

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