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Global International Defense Alliance Charter (DRAFT)

A place to put national factbooks, embassy exchanges, and other information regarding the nations of the world. [In character]

On the Finalized Establishment of this Charter as the GIDA Base.

Poll ended at Thu Dec 10, 2009 1:05 pm

Yes: Yes, this Charter is valid, well-written, and sufficient--reform can be done later, but little needs to be done, etc.
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No: No, this Charter is either invalid, not very well-constructed, not sufficient for the time being, needs an exceeding amount of reform, etc.
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Postby Rhodmhire » Sat Nov 28, 2009 5:21 pm

NOTE: Voting on this Charter's passing begins today, voting will end in a week (to allow more room for discussion) or perhaps be prolonged if decided upon to be.

It is advised that only GIDA members partake in voting, but amiable nations/Alliances, as well as potential future members can partake in it for the mean time, unless a majority of GIDA members take stances of disapproval over it.

In concordance with the Charter itself, a 75% majority vote is required for this Charter to pass. If it does not, reform discussion will be held, and reform will be voted on and made, leading up to another poll to be held after.

This will continue until the 75% majority vote is reached, however, a lesser/greater number may be determined by the GIDA members if they find 75% to be too small or too large.

Current: 100% --> Support (9) vs. 0% --> Opposition (0) as of December 2, 2009 7:00 p.m. EST.

~-~-~-~Global International Defense Alliance Charter of the Nations~-~-~-~

Global International Defense Alliance

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~-~TO OPEN~-~
To state the intent of this Charter.

~SECTION A.~ This Charter is intended to provide sufficient ruling, reform, and finalized, concured justification to the dilemmas, quarrels, and obstacles that were met in the early and mid-formation of the Global International Defense Alliance (GIDA) created by the national figures of concern from the nation of Verzia.

This is, in its current state, a draft up for discussion--it will not be finalized until or unless a consensus of national support, meeting or exceeding 66% (2/3) of all nations involved, is met after all nations are given a chance to review, discuss, elaborate, and suggest reform based upon their own standards of sufficiency and likeliness.

Once agreed upon, this Charter will apply to all members, except fragments that are apt from universal acceptance. Basic fundamental rulings, reform, and processes for election, impeachment, and suggestion reform will not have the ability to be evaded by any nation under any circumstance(s) whatsoever, unless said fragments are met with reform by a consensus of national support, meeting or exceeding 66% (2/3) of all nations involved in the Alliance, as is required for the passing of this document itself, as well as virtually any other ruling decision(s) to alter the Alliance itself, its ruling, systems, processes, and so forth.



~-~ARTICLE I.~-~
To state the what and what not platforms of the Alliance and its actions.

~SECTION A.~ We recognize that this Alliance is a pact of closely knit nations, of which remain sovereign in times where Militant action or aid is not required, nor necessary in a way that it is craved, demanded, or compulsary amongst the members.

Therefore, it is allowable for more right-leaning Libertarian-constituted nations to retain influencial, prominent--or non-influencial/less prominent--positions in this Alliance, while holding true to their foundational anti-Military alliance platform(s)--unless strictly forbidden in any sense, way, shape, form, etc.


~SECTION B.~ Beyond this, we also acknowledge and recognize in full as a whole that:

    We are not an aggressive, policing body--we will not attack, threaten, bully, prod, or persuade any national solitary body, multiplicative body, regional body, or alliance to be conveyed to our ideologies, forced to change their ways, or anything that goes beyond their means of concurrence by international interference in their day-to-day political action(s).

    We are not intended to nation build, we will only provide aid amongst national members who desire aid, or to external national bodies, alliances, etc. that agree that aid in the form of peaceful diplomacy, Military intervention, financial aid, etc. are acceptable under the determined circumstances--agreed upon prior to enaction by the body/bodies of leader(s) that meet to discuss on this/these issue(s).

    We are not required to give aid that we know will spawn later trouble of proportions we cannot meet, or that of which we do not have.

    We are not to force a single doctrine of religious, political, or other ideologies as a universal national establishment amongst ourselves as an Alliance.

    We are not required to partake in Military action if we declare our state to be that of peace, rather than war.

    We are required to retain a level of flexibility and amiability amongst fellow national members and those of other allied bodies, Alliances, etc. This does not go against the above known, and does not allow itself to be a loophole to extend a singular doctrine of belief to more secular, independent, sovereign nations: those of which are protected as seen in Section A.

    We are required to meet and discuss/agree/disagree/suggest/etc. when meetings to discuss reform, drafts for documents, feasible acts of aid/war, etc. are held--to some extent or another, and to at least partake in voting of some sort or mild discussion/statement(s) of agreement/disagreement and reasoning(s) as to why or why not.

    We are required not to back any nation, in the way of Military aid or financial aid to boost agressiveness, that enacts war against a member of the Alliance, or amiable external Alliances/nations/bodies. Defense is acceptable, but support in the way of physical aid that boosts said enemy nation(s) aggressiveness will not be tolerated. Any nation that does not comply will be punished in correlation to the listed acts and processes of justice to be listed. No exceptions will be made.

    We are required to partake in the election(s) of official nations to represent various Districts, this will be further explained later in the Charter.


~-~ARTICLE II.~-~
To state the format of the Military Senate Alliance and its purposes.

~SECTION A.~ The Military Senate Alliance is composed of the national hierarchy of national members--those who are chosen by the ruling bodies of Arc General (currently the nation of Verzia) whos elective process will be described later along with the various hierarchs of the Five Districts (1-5).

~SECTION B.~ The Arc General: The Military Senate is headed by a singular national body, the Arc General. The Arc General acts as a sort of President if you will, a leader whos influence becomes the ruling decision in light of a decision. He also acts as a Speaker of the House in a way. While the ruling decisions carried out by the District majority are finalized, they are only passed with approval by the Arc General unless a majority of non-District Alliance members approve as well.

This check and balance limits the Senate from passing a plethora of enactions, while also limiting the influence of the singular Arc General.

The purposes of the Arc General are to:

    1. Act as a symbol for the Alliance.
    2. Act as a figure of voting when the Senate has an even number of senators during times where the Senate is composed of an even amount of senators.
    3. Knock down proposals from the Senate when they aren't backed by non-District leaders during times where the Senate is composed of an even amount of senators.
    4. Speak in the name of the Alliance at various occasions, usually during times where the Senate is composed of an odd amount of senators.
    5. Make finalized, formal declarations based on Senate proposals, or by his own ruling when the Senate is not backed by non-District leaders.

The Arc General is elected every 30 days, and can retain a position or regain it as long as he recieves the majority vote.


~SECTION C.~ The District Leaders: The Military Senate is broken up into fragments called Districts, led by a hierarchy of leaders known as the District Leaders. Currently there are five Districts (1-5) each one has one Leader, a single nation that is voted in by a majority vote by the other nations within their District.

The voting process for these Leaders to be inaugurated takes place once every fifteen days, to refresh the board when necessary, or to determine Leaders that are well-liked amongst the other members to be seated for long intervals of time. There is no limit as to how long a single Leader nation can be in power, but if it is found to have committed an act against the rules, or the Arc General feels said Leader needs to be replaced, a vote can be held to remove said Leader nation from power, enacted by the Arc General.

The process itself involves members from individual Districts nominating and voting on candidate nations for the position of Leader. For example, members of District 1 would nominate two nations to run against each other for a short period of time, to familiarize themselves with the desires of the District, and Senate as a whole, as well as to plea their case(s) for Leadership. A vote would later be held in a designated thread, the winner would take seat as the Leader for fifteen days, to be refreshed or taken down from power after another vote was held.

A majority vote is need for the above to take place, a majority being one that exceeds 50% in favor of a singular nation when opposing another.

Two nations will run against each other, no third, fourth, etc. nation may be included as it will allow for the tendency of thin-spread voting and will result in one or more runoff elections which will consume time and complicate the process--the two-nominee system is the cleanest, fastest, and most efficient system, and will only be altered if a 66% majority Senate vote is given to alter it--with added support from the Arc General if the Senate is composed of an even number of senators.

The purposes of the District Leaders is to:

    1. Oversee actions of the District members of their specified District.
    2. Oversee the Senate as a whole.
    3. Vote amongst themselves as District Leaders to pass or knock down proposals made by other District members--from their own or other Districts.
    4. Finailize a vote on, establish, and declare war, sanctions, embargos, etc. during times when the Senate is composed of an odd amount of senators.
    5. Act as major bodies of influence when it comes to war, trade, aid, peacemaking, etc. on a usual basis--not to conflict with Article I. Section B.


~SECTION D.~ The Military Senate: The Military Senate in and of itself is composed of the entire Alliance--all of its members, as well as the hierarchies (District Leaders and Arc General). The Senate is the entire body, but is usually used to describe those who are not hierarchy members.

The Senate's purposes are to:

    1. Vote on whether to go to war or enact peace in scenarios where this decision must be made.
    2. Embargo another nation/Alliance--external or interal to the GIDA.
    3. Send any form of aid amongst other nations, bodies, Alliances, etc.
    4. Sanction or abolish another nation, body, Alliance, etc.
    5. Enact rules of war, justifications of peace, or alterations on any ruling amongst other nations.

The Senate also creates a check and balance as it has the potential to act against or be weakened by the Arc General and District Leaders under certain circumstances based on support and senator numbers.

Senate members are automatically established and do not need a vote to become a member of the Senate, but to become hierarchy members, see the above methods of being voted on and the processes for doing so.

Senate members may be abolished if a 66% majority vote amongst other members, and hierarchy figures is established, stating that they have violated an inexcusable rule, committed an act/acts of treason, or have given other reason(s) for their removal from the Senate, and therefore the GIDA itself.


~SECTION E. Voting processes, systems of checks and balances, format, purposes, and other concepts listed above may be altered, abolished, replaced with alternatives, etc. if a vote is held and a 66% majority national member vote is held to alter, abolish, replace, etc. amongst the Senate members.

However, the basis of the Military Senate must remain, in that the Senate must be, in some form, existent. Unless the current Arc General and a vast majority (90%) approve of alteration(s), it will remain as such.



~-~ARTICLE III.~-~
To establish proper Acts of Justice and premises of basic law.

~SECTION A.~ Acts of Justice are to be enacted when a member nation, set of member nations, external amiable nation/set of nations, external body/bodies, or amiable Alliance has caused immense disturbance, or more commonly broken a law, or multitude of laws. Such Acts are to be enacted by a collaborative body of Senate members as a whole, unless a nation has been excused or does not wish to partake and can provide sufficient reasoning for not partaking.

Such Acts will be held in a designated hub thread to be created and used/re-used for Acts of Justice.

For an Act to be established, the Arc General must sit at the head and be fully aware of the rulings, loopholes, alternatives, punishments, and grey-area functionings to properly enact a final decree after reviewing a decision made by a vote of a "jury" composed of the senators who have partaken in the process of an Act of Justice.

After reviewing an amount of evidence, a jury vote, and the rules, the Arc General will enact a final ruling decision--if it agrees with the jury rule, the punishment will be equal to that of which was to be acted upon by the jury vote itself. If the Arc Generals rule disagrees with the jury vote, the jury can hold another vote and attempt to persuade the Arc General a maximum of twice more before his decision takes action. If the jury wishes not to proceed with attempt(s) to persuade the Arc General, the punishment will be a less extreme version of that of which was to be enacted by the jury vote.


~SECTION B.~ For example, Nation A has committed treason--a jury votes that Nation A should be abolished from the GIDA, but the Arc General disagrees, and wishes for Nation A to remain a member. If the jury decides to let the Arc General's decision remain, the punishment will be similiar but less extreme, i.e. an X long ban, inability to run for hierarchy office for X amount of time, etc.

If the jury wishes to challenge the Arc General in this scenario, they will have to persuade him to change before a period of 12 hours has accumulated. If they fail the first time, the punishment will be even less extreme than their intent, i.e. 0.5 * X long ban, a period of observation by a certain member nation, etc.

If they jury then wishes to challenge the Arc General a second and final time, they again must attempt to persaude him. If they fail this time, the punishment will be as the Arc General intended in full--the jury's intent will be absolutely disregarded and trashed, it will be as opposing as it can be while retaining to the desire(s) of the Arc General's ruling decision.


~SECTION C.~ The actual justifications for ruling are to be discussed, created, and established threw discussion and suggestion(s) in later time, for now, regard the entirety of Article I. for a premise of enacting Acts of Justice.


~-~ARTICLE IV.~-~
To further a basic premise of ruling for Acts of Justice.

~SECTION A.~ Of various the various rules that, if broken, will result in punishment(s) to be enacted upon any nation(s), body/ies, or Alliance(s)--interal to the GIDA or external to it--included as basics for forming a premise of Acts of Justice are the following:

  • Joining or being part of potentially harmful external Alliances without prior distribution of knowledge to the Military Senate, designated District Leader, or Arc General.
  • Forming underground operations or coups against the Alliance.
  • Committing an act/acts of treason--being:
      1. the offense of acting to overthrow one's government or to harm or kill its sovereign.
      2. a violation of allegiance to one's sovereign or to one's state.
      3. the betrayal of a trust or confidence; breach of faith; treachery.
  • Declaration of war against a force that is clearly not a threat to any singular GIDA nation, group of GIDA nations, or the GIDA itself--all members of the Military Senate as a whole who voted for said war to be enacted are to be held responsible with Acts of Justice held to determine punishment.
  • Declaration of war after being knocked down by the Military Senate.
  • Declaration of war against a GIDA nation, a group of GIDA nations, GIDA itself, or amiable external forces while retaining membership and without prior concurrence amongst the Military Senate.
  • Convicted, consistent threats against an internal/external Alliance force. (Transparent OOC: Harrassment, flaming, trolling on thread[s])
  • Convicted illegal arms trade amongst nations, unless admitted to be trustworthy, legal arm trade by a consensus amongst trading nations.
  • Convicted ideologic thrusting, pressuing, unwanted persuasion. (reference: Article I. Section B.)
  • Evasion of voting when not prior providing sufficient reason(s) to avoid/miss it.
  • Blatant evasion of agreed-upon rulings.
  • Utilization of nuclear/biological weapons when not established as justified by the Military Senate. (amiable or enemy nations, both apply)
  • Putrid/repetative disrespect of authority figure(s).
  • Consistent disregard for processes/methods of voting, Acts of Justice, etc. (see "Blatant evasion of agreed-upon rulings.")
  • Creating a vaccum by leaving the GIDA without prior notation.
  • National adherence to policies that involve or allow for acts of: human slavery, exceedingly poor human treatment/conditions, national encompensating Military compulsiveness, (100% of national population or adult population in Military, although it cannot be stopped by the Military Senate, said nation will not be allowed to utilize its full Military at any time unless circumstance is met and agreed upon by a vast majority of the Military Senate, all District Leaders, and the Arc General) or ideologies that in and of themselves go against any of the rules. This is not meant to contridict the first noted segment of Article I. Section B.



~-~ARTICLE V.~-~
To finalize the flexibility of this Charter and its future discussion/voting upon.

~SECTION A.~ It is acknowledged that this Charter is in DRAFT format, meaning it is not finalized and as of now, nothing in it is applicable beyond now-agreed upon basics.

First will be held discussion, on this thread, followed by voting on various considerations of abolishment, addition, alteration, etc.

After this is done, signatures of all national Represenatives, leader(s), etc. necessary to make this Charter valid that comply will be noted and added--in this case, a concurrence amongst 75% of all member nations is necessary for this Charter to pass, exceeding both the normal 50%+ and 66%+ majority votes. The Arc General's approval is also required, but not that of the District Leaders, as they are not set in stone as of now as far as format is concerned.

Any suggestions and discussion is welcomed, this will not be closed until every nation has had a chance to review/skim and discuss/vote to some extent on this Charter and its contents.

Hostility in extreme, repetative, and/or unnecessary forms will not be tolerated under any circumstance, and the Arc General or I, the creator of this Charter, will take action into dealing with said hostility. That is not to say fervent or passionate disagreement/agreement, defense, debate, is not allowed, but foolish wording, obscene portrayals, derogatory insults, and the likes will be acted upon immediately after their discovery.

Final list of possible basic discussion topics:

    -Wording.
    -Feasible contridictions.
    -Loopholes.
    -Alterations.
    -Added/abolished ruling.
    -Concurrence.
    -Format set-up changes.
    -Voting processes. (major topic)



~-~TO CONCLUDE~-~
To establish concluding words.

~SECTION A.~ This Charter will be in complete effect when a consensus of 75% of Military Senate members is met, as well as concurrence from the Arc General.

Alterations, abolishments, additions, etc. can be voted upon in a to-be designated thread on the subject of this voting.

Discussion can be done by external non-member nations, however, they will not be allowed to distribute voting unless allowed by the Arc General due to amiability or allied relations.

This Charter is intended to establish the premises required for this Alliance to properly function, to provide basic ruling, methods and processes of enacting Justice and voting, to lay the foundation of format, and to give nations the idea of their place in the GIDA.

The unity brought about by a national GIDA concurrence to the contents of this Charter--revised or otherwise--can do nothing more than make us closer knit, closer connected, increase our willingness to debate and discuss, increase our knowledge of one another's methods of ruling/decision making, and strengthen the GIDA as a whole.



~-~SIGNATURES~-~

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Created by: Rhodmhire
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Last edited by Rhodmhire on Thu Dec 03, 2009 5:01 pm, edited 18 times in total.
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Postby Al-Mumtaz » Sat Nov 28, 2009 7:25 pm

can i help u make that charter by giving u some advices?
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Postby Grays Harbor » Sat Nov 28, 2009 11:02 pm

Al-Mumtaz wrote:can i help u you make that charter by giving u you some advices advice?

fixed.


(OOC - Shouldn't this be in International Incidents?)
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Grays Harbor wrote:
Al-Mumtaz wrote:can i help u you make that charter by giving u you some advices advice?

fixed.


(OOC - Shouldn't this be in International Incidents?)


OOC: The creator of the GIDA told me to place in in Factbooks, we talked about it, I'll see what the GIDA member consensus has to say, I might even ask a moderator opinion, throw in a quick thread or something and ask for a tow if necessary by moderator opinion.

For now, it'll remain, if you wish to ask in a Moderation thread, go ahead, as long as it's able to be discussed by members.
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Postby Grays Harbor » Sat Nov 28, 2009 11:23 pm

Rhodmhire wrote:
Grays Harbor wrote:
Al-Mumtaz wrote:can i help u you make that charter by giving u you some advices advice?

fixed.


(OOC - Shouldn't this be in International Incidents?)


OOC: The creator of the GIDA told me to place in in Factbooks, we talked about it, I'll see what the GIDA member consensus has to say, I might even ask a moderator opinion, throw in a quick thread or something and ask for a tow if necessary by moderator opinion.

For now, it'll remain, if you wish to ask in a Moderation thread, go ahead, as long as it's able to be discussed by members.


(not that big of a deal to me, just mentioned it is all. I try not to make superfluous reports in moderation, and getting this towed someplace would definately be that.)
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Grays Harbor wrote:(not that big of a deal to me, just mentioned it is all. I try not to make superfluous reports in moderation, and getting this towed someplace would definately be that.)


OOC: In that case, I'll leave it for now, as I was about to go to bed, if a mod wants to tow it I'm fine with it, I'd rather not create the burden of creating a thread in Moderation at this point.

And discussion is open to member/non-member nations, member nations will vote on designated issues that will be established in later time.

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Postby Verzia » Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:54 am

Rhodmhire, this is one hell of a charter, I support it 110%. Very good job, I will go tell the other senators.

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Postby Malikov » Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:33 am

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O.K. i like the charter. It's very professional, very well done, it clearly explains the process's, and rules of GIDA. I saw a bit of grammatical errors though. I'll go through, and edit, then Bolden/ italicize/ underline the edits.

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~-~-~-~Global International Defense Alliance Charter of the Nations~-~-~-~

Global International Defense Alliance

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~-~TO OPEN~-~
To state the intent of this Charter.

~SECTION A.~ This Charter is intended to provide sufficient ruling, reform, and finalized, concured justification to the dilemmas, quarrels, and obstacles that were met in the early and mid-formation of the Global International Defense Alliance (GIDA) created by the national figures of concern from the nation of Verzia.

This is, in its current state, a draft up for discussion--it will not be finalized until or unless a consensus of national support, meeting or exceeding 66% (2/3) of all nations involved, is met after all nations are given a chance to review, discuss, elaborate, and suggest reform based upon their own standards of sufficiency and likeliness.

Once agreed upon, this Charter will apply to all members, except fragments that are apt from universal acceptance. Basic fundamental rulings, reform, and processes for election, impeachment, and suggestion reform will not have the ability to be evaded by any nation under any circumstance(s) whatsoever, unless said fragments are met with reform by a consensus of national support, meeting or exceeding 66%
(2/3) of all nations involved in the Alliance, as is required for the passing of this document itself, as well as virtually any other ruling decision(s) to alter the Alliance itself, its ruling, systems, processes, and so forth.


~-~ARTICLE I.~-~
To state the what and what not platforms of the Alliance and its actions.

~SECTION A.~ We recognize that this Alliance is a pact of closely knit nations, of which remain sovereign in times where Militant action or aid is not required, nor necessary in a way that it is craved, demanded, or compulsary amongst the members.

Therefore, it is allowable for more right-leaning Libertarian-constituted nations to retain influencial, prominent--or non-influencial/less prominent--positions in this Alliance, while holding true to their foundational anti-Military alliance platform(s)--unless strictly forbidden in any sense, way, shape, form, etc.


~SECTION B.~ Beyond this, we also acknowledge and recognize in full as a whole that:

    We are not an aggressive, policing body--we will not attack, threaten, bully, prod, or persuade any national solitary body, multiplicative body, regional body, or alliance to be conveyed to our ideologies, forced to change their ways, or anything that goes beyond their means of concurrence by international interference in their day-to-day political action(s).

    We are not intended to nation build, we will only provide aid amongst national members who desire aid, or to external national bodies, alliances, etc. that agree that aid in the form of peaceful diplomacy, Military intervention, financial aid, etc. are acceptable under the determined circumstances--agreed upon prior to enaction by the body/bodies of leader(s) that meet to discuss on this/these issue(s).

    We are not required to give aid that we know will spawn later trouble of proportions we cannot meet, or that of which we do not have.

    We are not to force a single doctrine of religious, political, or other ideologies as a universal national establishment amongst ourselves as an Alliance.

    We are not required to partake in Military action if we declare our state to be that of peace, rather than war.

    We are required to retain a level of flexibility and amiability amongst fellow national members and those of other allied bodies, Alliances, etc. This does not go against the above known, and does not allow itself to be a loophole to extend a singular doctrine of belief to more secular, independent, sovereign nations: those of which are protected as seen in Section A.

    We are required to meet and discuss/agree/disagree/suggest/etc. when meetings to discuss reform, drafts for documents, feasible acts of aid/war, etc. are held--to some extent or another, and to at least partake in voting of some sort or mild discussion/statement(s) of agreement/disagreement and reasoning(s) as to why or why not.

    We are required not to back any nation, in the way of Military aid or financial aid to boost agressiveness, that enacts war against a member of the Alliance, or amiable external Alliances/nations/bodies. Defense is acceptable, but support in the way of physical aid that boosts said enemy nation(s) aggressiveness will not be tolerated. Any nation that does not comply will be punished in correlation to the listed acts and processes of justice to be listed. No exceptions will be made.

    We are required to partake in the election(s) of official nations to represent various Districts, this will be further explained later in the Charter.


~-~ARTICLE II.~-~
To state the format of the Military Senate Alliance and its purposes.

~SECTION A.~ The Military Senate Alliance is composed of the national hierarchy of national members--those who are chosen by the ruling bodies of Arc General (currently the nation of Verzia) whos elective process will be described later along with the various hierarchs of the Five Districts (1-5).

~SECTION B.~ The Arc General: The Military Senate is headed by a singular national body, the Arc General. The Arc General acts as a sort of President if you will, a leader whos influence becomes the ruling decision in light of a decision. He also acts as a Speaker of the House in a way. While the ruling decisions carried out by the District majority are finalized, they are only passed with approval by the Arc General unless a majority of non-District Alliance members approve as well.

This check and balance limits the Senate from passing a plethora of enactions, while also limiting the influence of the singular Arc General.

The purposes of the Arc General are to:

    1. Act as a symbol for the Alliance.
    2. Act as a figure of voting when the Senate has an even number of senators during times where the Senate is composed of an even amount of senators.
    3. Knock down proposals from the Senate when they aren't backed by non-District leaders during times where the Senate is composed of an even amount of senators.
    4. Speak in the name of the Alliance at various occasions, usually during times where the Senate is composed of an odd amount of senators.
    5. Make finalized, formal declarations based on Senate proposals, or by his own ruling when the Senate is not backed by non-District leaders.

The Arc General is elected every 30 days, and can retain a position or regain it as long as he recieves the majority vote.


~SECTION C.~ The District Leaders: The Military Senate is broken up into fragments called Districts, led by a hierarchy of leaders known as the District Leaders. Currently there are five Districts (1-5) each one has one Leader, a single nation that is voted in by a majority vote by the other nations within their district.

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(ooc) - I can't help but feel, after staring at it for a long time, as though it is overtly weighed down in legislation.

All this voting nonsense type stuff that bogs down the senate, two layers of an election, just to reach a council to decide if we should or should not go to war...

I mean, for serious. This means some nations won't get on the senate. In in turn means the senate will be deciding for some nations if or if they should not go to war. By and large, in my experience, if someone in an offical unform turns up at your nations door, and goes 'Oh, yeah, your invading these dudes today, off you go' The best responce is 'F-off.'

I am not sure what prevents everyone having a seat upon the senate, and the senate electing an arc general. Everyone knows that in harsh reality, half the senators will miss the debates anyway, so having a large number of senators ensures at least a fair number will be present, and of those present, 2/3rds majority would be sufficent. Then so long as steps are taken to inform all members, (48 hours notice, and a telegram, responcibility to the Arc-General perhaps?) Sufficent steps could be taken. Then anyone who wants to have a voice at the time, can have one, and no-ones messed up by electing a senator who then takes a hoilday at a critical location.

Futhermore, I'd be interested in toying about with the creation of an International Gobal Intervention Force, (IGIF), which is simply the complusory donation of 1% (yearly rotation) of each members millitary. This body would act at the behest of the Senate (2/3rds majority) and be lead by the Arc-General's lot.

It would act as a rapid responce interventionary force the moment any member of GIDA was invaded, and buy the senate time to fully discuss the matter, while protecting whatever nation it was defending from a blitzkreig.

Yes, anyway, back to Final Fantasy now, those are just my opening thoughts.
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Postby Rhodmhire » Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:51 am

Malikov wrote:[tag]

O.K. i like the charter. It's very professional, very well done, it clearly explains the process's, and rules of GIDA. I saw a bit of grammatical errors though. I'll go through, and edit, then Bolden/ italicize/ underline the edits.

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~-~-~-~Global International Defense Alliance Charter of the Nations~-~-~-~

Global International Defense Alliance

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~-~TO OPEN~-~
To state the intent of this Charter.

~SECTION A.~ This Charter is intended to provide sufficient ruling, reform, and finalized, concured justification to the dilemmas, quarrels, and obstacles that were met in the early and mid-formation of the Global International Defense Alliance (GIDA) created by the national figures of concern from the nation of Verzia.

This is, in its current state, a draft up for discussion--it will not be finalized until or unless a consensus of national support, meeting or exceeding 66% (2/3) of all nations involved, is met after all nations are given a chance to review, discuss, elaborate, and suggest reform based upon their own standards of sufficiency and likeliness.

Once agreed upon, this Charter will apply to all members, except fragments that are apt from universal acceptance. Basic fundamental rulings, reform, and processes for election, impeachment, and suggestion reform will not have the ability to be evaded by any nation under any circumstance(s) whatsoever, unless said fragments are met with reform by a consensus of national support, meeting or exceeding 66%
(2/3) of all nations involved in the Alliance, as is required for the passing of this document itself, as well as virtually any other ruling decision(s) to alter the Alliance itself, its ruling, systems, processes, and so forth.


~-~ARTICLE I.~-~
To state the what and what not platforms of the Alliance and its actions.

~SECTION A.~ We recognize that this Alliance is a pact of closely knit nations, of which remain sovereign in times where Militant action or aid is not required, nor necessary in a way that it is craved, demanded, or compulsary amongst the members.

Therefore, it is allowable for more right-leaning Libertarian-constituted nations to retain influencial, prominent--or non-influencial/less prominent--positions in this Alliance, while holding true to their foundational anti-Military alliance platform(s)--unless strictly forbidden in any sense, way, shape, form, etc.


~SECTION B.~ Beyond this, we also acknowledge and recognize in full as a whole that:

    We are not an aggressive, policing body--we will not attack, threaten, bully, prod, or persuade any national solitary body, multiplicative body, regional body, or alliance to be conveyed to our ideologies, forced to change their ways, or anything that goes beyond their means of concurrence by international interference in their day-to-day political action(s).

    We are not intended to nation build, we will only provide aid amongst national members who desire aid, or to external national bodies, alliances, etc. that agree that aid in the form of peaceful diplomacy, Military intervention, financial aid, etc. are acceptable under the determined circumstances--agreed upon prior to enaction by the body/bodies of leader(s) that meet to discuss on this/these issue(s).

    We are not required to give aid that we know will spawn later trouble of proportions we cannot meet, or that of which we do not have.

    We are not to force a single doctrine of religious, political, or other ideologies as a universal national establishment amongst ourselves as an Alliance.

    We are not required to partake in Military action if we declare our state to be that of peace, rather than war.

    We are required to retain a level of flexibility and amiability amongst fellow national members and those of other allied bodies, Alliances, etc. This does not go against the above known, and does not allow itself to be a loophole to extend a singular doctrine of belief to more secular, independent, sovereign nations: those of which are protected as seen in Section A.

    We are required to meet and discuss/agree/disagree/suggest/etc. when meetings to discuss reform, drafts for documents, feasible acts of aid/war, etc. are held--to some extent or another, and to at least partake in voting of some sort or mild discussion/statement(s) of agreement/disagreement and reasoning(s) as to why or why not.

    We are required not to back any nation, in the way of Military aid or financial aid to boost agressiveness, that enacts war against a member of the Alliance, or amiable external Alliances/nations/bodies. Defense is acceptable, but support in the way of physical aid that boosts said enemy nation(s) aggressiveness will not be tolerated. Any nation that does not comply will be punished in correlation to the listed acts and processes of justice to be listed. No exceptions will be made.

    We are required to partake in the election(s) of official nations to represent various Districts, this will be further explained later in the Charter.


~-~ARTICLE II.~-~
To state the format of the Military Senate Alliance and its purposes.

~SECTION A.~ The Military Senate Alliance is composed of the national hierarchy of national members--those who are chosen by the ruling bodies of Arc General (currently the nation of Verzia) whos elective process will be described later along with the various hierarchs of the Five Districts (1-5).

~SECTION B.~ The Arc General: The Military Senate is headed by a singular national body, the Arc General. The Arc General acts as a sort of President if you will, a leader whos influence becomes the ruling decision in light of a decision. He also acts as a Speaker of the House in a way. While the ruling decisions carried out by the District majority are finalized, they are only passed with approval by the Arc General unless a majority of non-District Alliance members approve as well.

This check and balance limits the Senate from passing a plethora of enactions, while also limiting the influence of the singular Arc General.

The purposes of the Arc General are to:

    1. Act as a symbol for the Alliance.
    2. Act as a figure of voting when the Senate has an even number of senators during times where the Senate is composed of an even amount of senators.
    3. Knock down proposals from the Senate when they aren't backed by non-District leaders during times where the Senate is composed of an even amount of senators.
    4. Speak in the name of the Alliance at various occasions, usually during times where the Senate is composed of an odd amount of senators.
    5. Make finalized, formal declarations based on Senate proposals, or by his own ruling when the Senate is not backed by non-District leaders.

The Arc General is elected every 30 days, and can retain a position or regain it as long as he recieves the majority vote.


~SECTION C.~ The District Leaders: The Military Senate is broken up into fragments called Districts, led by a hierarchy of leaders known as the District Leaders. Currently there are five Districts (1-5) each one has one Leader, a single nation that is voted in by a majority vote by the other nations within their district.

[snip]


Thank you, I spent a lot of time on it, I wanted to give it as much substance as I could without making it so immense that we simply couldn't easily discuss/reform it.

Grammar wasn't a major priority, there's probably a slew of them in there, thank you for going through--I'll correct mistakes ASAP.
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Postby Rhodmhire » Sun Nov 29, 2009 11:08 am

The Halseyist Faction wrote:(ooc) - I can't help but feel, after staring at it for a long time, as though it is overtly weighed down in legislation.

All this voting nonsense type stuff that bogs down the senate, two layers of an election, just to reach a council to decide if we should or should not go to war...


Going to war is a major decision, you want to ram it through in a short amount of time?

I'm not asking for more than a day or two's worth of discussion, voting, and finalized decision making. That might end up being summed up to less than two or three hours of total discussion, voting, and decision making by all members of the various branches--that's not to say it has to be continuous and that's not to say everyone has to contribute that amount of time.

But I'll hold it up to reform, just like every other aspect.

How would you do it differently? I don't see any other way beyond simply shortening the ropes, making it easier for flukes, miscalculations, and misconceptions to arise in the discussion of or later declaration of war.

I mean, for serious. This means some nations won't get on the senate. In in turn means the senate will be deciding for some nations if or if they should not go to war. By and large, in my experience, if someone in an offical unform turns up at your nations door, and goes 'Oh, yeah, your invading these dudes today, off you go' The best responce is 'F-off.'


1. The Senate hierarchs (District Leaders/Arc General) are the levels of which not all nations will be allowed to be part of. The Military Senate as a whole is composed of every member. The hierarchs are really only there to make the formal declarations, represent, and to establish a system of checks and balances to stop the oh so common dictatorship of the Alliance founder/highest power to puppet the fellow nations as he pleases, or that of other branches.

But, again, the format is up for reform--perhaps something more along the lines of totally seperate branches opposed to these more closely knit ones.

Even I'd support such reform.

2. If you didn't notice this part:

We are not required to partake in Military action if we declare our state to be that of peace, rather than war.

and this:

We are not required to give aid that we know will spawn later trouble of proportions we cannot meet, or that of which we do not have.

They were there for a reason--if you can't give aid, or you declare your national state that of peace rather than war, you're not required to provide aid. Those who willingly declare theirs a state of war are required and only let go of that duty if they can provide sufficient evidence that displays their inability to do so.

This Alliance is intended to protect its members, if a nation doesn't feel it will want to do that often, instead of telling us to "F-off" it shouldn't have joined in the first place, and we'll gladly remove it through Acts of Justice or other means if we feel it necessary.

I am not sure what prevents everyone having a seat upon the senate,


Nothing.

The only way you can lose a seat is temporary ban, or abolishment from the Alliance through convicted breaking of rules through an Act of Justice. I gave a brief list of some of the common-place rules that, if broken, will likely result in a temporary, long term, or permanent abolishment from the Alliance.

and the senate electing an arc general. Everyone knows that in harsh reality, half the senators will miss the debates anyway, so having a large number of senators ensures at least a fair number will be present, and of those present, 2/3rds majority would be sufficent. Then so long as steps are taken to inform all members, (48 hours notice, and a telegram, responcibility to the Arc-General perhaps?) Sufficent steps could be taken. Then anyone who wants to have a voice at the time, can have one, and no-ones messed up by electing a senator who then takes a hoilday at a critical location.


This could be done, yes.

Futhermore, I'd be interested in toying about with the creation of an International Gobal Intervention Force, (IGIF), which is simply the complusory donation of 1% (yearly rotation) of each members millitary. This body would act at the behest of the Senate (2/3rds majority) and be lead by the Arc-General's lot.


I suppose that might conflict in a way with national states of declared peace, actually my own state is that of peace as of now, but it could be toyed with--experimentation is welcomed at this stage, so there's no harm.

It would act as a rapid responce interventionary force the moment any member of GIDA was invaded, and buy the senate time to fully discuss the matter, while protecting whatever nation it was defending from a blitzkreig.


I like that concept.

Yes, anyway, back to Final Fantasy now, those are just my opening thoughts.


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Postby Rhodmhire » Sun Nov 29, 2009 11:10 am

Verzia wrote:Rhodmhire, this is one hell of a charter, I support it 110%. Very good job, I will go tell the other senators.


Thank you, I put a note in the GIDA Home Thread with a link, a quick TG with the link explaining in brief what this is to every senator would be sufficient.

Thank you for your support, I'll ask for your opinion again after I've gone through, editted it grammatically, and seen how far experimentation with feasible reform takes me.
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Postby Lelouche » Sun Nov 29, 2009 3:59 pm

We approve of this very professional charter.

Minor Issues with some of the "Acts of Justice"

It appears this Body will be also a court of sorts, putting it's own members on trial. Granted that certain acts require punitive measures, The Senate needs to take care that no such actions would ever violate the national sovereignty of it's members

Lelouche holds the right to Self Governance higher than all other rights.

A few direct issues

Convicted illegal arms trade amongst nations, unless admitted to be trustworthy, legal arm trade by a consensus amongst trading nations.


This needs clarification...there are several Nations which openly sell their Military equipment on the open market....do we seek senate approval for all trades?. what constitutes illegal trade? This is one of those vague areas where national sovereignty could be violated by a senate decision

Another issue

If the jury wishes to challenge the Arc General in this scenario, they will have to persuade him to change before a period of 12 hours has accumulated. If they fail the first time, the punishment will be even less extreme than their intent, i.e. 0.5 * X long ban, a period of observation by a certain member nation, etc.

If they jury then wishes to challenge the Arc General a second and final time, they again must attempt to persaude him. If they fail this time, the punishment will be as the Arc General intended in full--the jury's intent will be absolutely disregarded and trashed, it will be as opposing as it can be while retaining to the desire(s) of the Arc General's ruling decision.


Checks and Balances being what they are, for the purposes of justice, the Arc General needs less authority, not more.

If the Jury (thus being the entire senate) agree that an infraction was made, a crime committed, and the Arc General either agrees but dismisses their punishment, or disagrees and dismisses their punishment, then theoretically they can appeal twice and still get nowhere.

The Senate needs the Power to Veto the Arc General's decisions in such matter, as the ruling body, they are the voice of the alliance, not the Arc General.

Of course, if this remains the way it is, the Arc General could simply be voted out in the face of an Unpopular decision, (given the short duration of his term, not much harm can be done by a corrupt official, easily replaced by another less/more corrupt official).


All in all, The Constitutional Monarchy of Lelouche, approves of this charter, and plans to vote yes on any final draft presented before it

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Postby The Halseyist Faction » Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:36 pm

(ooc) *eyes the telegram he just recived from the Arc General*

Are you -sure- that every nation gets a senator? Because this whole eletions thing seems to be for electing senators from groups of nations? I don't have much time at the moment to re-read things in detail, (I still need to make an IC responce as well) but it's just the impression I get?
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Postby Lelouche » Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:51 pm

The Halseyist Faction wrote:(ooc) *eyes the telegram he just recived from the Arc General*

Are you -sure- that every nation gets a senator? Because this whole eletions thing seems to be for electing senators from groups of nations? I don't have much time at the moment to re-read things in detail, (I still need to make an IC responce as well) but it's just the impression I get?


I'll clarify

Every Nation has a senate seat
Every District has a General, These control the agenda
The Entire Assembly has an Arc General, He Speaks for the Alliance, and issues the Proclamations and Mandates
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Postby The Halseyist Faction » Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:08 pm

Lelouche wrote:
The Halseyist Faction wrote:(ooc) *eyes the telegram he just recived from the Arc General*

Are you -sure- that every nation gets a senator? Because this whole eletions thing seems to be for electing senators from groups of nations? I don't have much time at the moment to re-read things in detail, (I still need to make an IC responce as well) but it's just the impression I get?


I'll clarify

Every Nation has a senate seat
Every District has a General, These control the agenda
The Entire Assembly has an Arc General, He Speaks for the Alliance, and issues the Proclamations and Mandates


From the Telegram I recived -
Just a reminder,
Please go to viewtopic.php?f=5&t=26402 so that you can go out and vote for your districts' Military Senator...

Is the term 'Millitary Senator' a misplaced and confusing subsitute for 'General' in this case then? That would probably solve my confusion.
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Postby Seperates » Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:13 pm

Wow... Rhod... You can be surprisily productive... It's nice to have you as a partner in this allaince...
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Postby Lelouche » Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:33 pm

The Halseyist Faction wrote:
Lelouche wrote:
The Halseyist Faction wrote:(ooc) *eyes the telegram he just recived from the Arc General*

Are you -sure- that every nation gets a senator? Because this whole eletions thing seems to be for electing senators from groups of nations? I don't have much time at the moment to re-read things in detail, (I still need to make an IC responce as well) but it's just the impression I get?


I'll clarify

Every Nation has a senate seat
Every District has a General, These control the agenda
The Entire Assembly has an Arc General, He Speaks for the Alliance, and issues the Proclamations and Mandates


From the Telegram I recived -
Just a reminder,
Please go to viewtopic.php?f=5&t=26402 so that you can go out and vote for your districts' Military Senator...

Is the term 'Millitary Senator' a misplaced and confusing subsitute for 'General' in this case then? That would probably solve my confusion.


I do believe that is correct

The Senate is everybody, and everybody is a Senator
Districts are smaller voting blocks within the Senate and vote for "Generals" to repsent the interests of Their district

The Arc General
Generals
and the Senate all have specific functions and duties
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Postby The Halseyist Faction » Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:45 pm

Mmm... Might I suggest renaming 'General' to something alltogether less confusing then? General's arn't elected, they are appointed. Why not call them 'Regional Delegates' Instead?

Everyone sends a senator to the senate, every region sends a regional delegate to the...Council? The 'Arc General' Chairs the council, and oversees the senate?
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Postby Lelouche » Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:50 pm

The Halseyist Faction wrote:Mmm... Might I suggest renaming 'General' to something alltogether less confusing then? General's arn't elected, they are appointed. Why not call them 'Regional Delegates' Instead?

Everyone sends a senator to the senate, every region sends a regional delegate to the...Council? The 'Arc General' Chairs the council, and oversees the senate?


That sounds about right

I am probably wrong on the General thing...I was using the old terminology

but the setup you described is about correct
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Postby Andertion » Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:56 pm

I support the charter. It is a little large and confusing but after looking it over closely I have few complaints all of which are trivial.
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Postby Nouvelle Rhodes » Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:25 pm

This is a quite well done charter. My compliments to Rhodmhire

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Postby Rhodmhire » Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:04 pm

Nouvelle Rhodes wrote:This is a quite well done charter. My compliments to Rhodmhire


Thank you.

I'd better scan through again, this is the last day before the weekend I'll be on for long periods of time.
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