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Primogeniture in your nation.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:42 pm
by Auzkhia
Is Primogeniture practiced in your nation? If so, which variation?


The Habsburg monarchy practices male-preference primogeniture. Unlike, some of the "progressive" monarchies, Auzkhia uses our traditional system. The eldest son gets the throne. The sometimes doesn't happen. Some monarchs were not the son of the previous monarch. If no male heirs can be found, we accept the eldest daughter as the monarch of the Holy Roman Empire.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:45 pm
by Greater Mackonia
Someone's being playing CKII

Traditional Mackonian inheritance laws dictate that the seven oldest sons must fight it out until one remains to inherit everything, this system is still widely used today and looks set to continue for
a long time.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:53 pm
by Saurisisia
The monarchies of Saurisia and its autonomous states follow this system, the oldest son or closest living male relatives will be chosen as heir to the throne. If none are found, then the closest female relative becomes heir. Pretty straightforward, overall, since we find the idea of elective monarchies (even constitutional monarchies where the monarch's just a figurehead with no power whatsoever) as just an alien and rather silly concept.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:56 pm
by TurtleShroom
TurtleShroom's Constitution states that the Majestic Twelve must be the age of majority and the same type of creture (human, turtle, or mushroom) as the King who selected them. When it comes to humans and turtles, gender is not looked at, and neither is race. The Crown is color-blind and gender-neutral. It is the King's choice as to who his heirs are. If he wants to pick all females, for example, then he clearly has decided that these women are more suited to carry his legacy than a male. We trust our heads of state to choose their heirs on pure merit, and the entire Majestic Twelve must be submitted to background checks and advanced scrutiny. Why would we amend the Constitution to eliminate this? The female turtles, which are three times bigger and far stronger than males, would be in an uproar, as would the Church and the elders, at a flip in tradition.


In the private sector, last wills and testaments are followed as if they were iron law. A creature can leave his fortune to his eldest son as much as he can to a highly sentient aborigine (NS Issue), and the government can not, in any way, interfere with the dead's demands, excpet, of course, where the obvious societal responsibilities take place.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 2:00 pm
by New Lyrane
Absolute primogeniture has always been the rule for hereditary dignities. The eldest birthdaughter of a person is her heir. Even though the special rights and privileges of all royal and noble titles were abolished 500 years ago, the titles themselves still descend from mother to daughter.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 2:10 pm
by Albaie
Primogeniture has been practice in Albaie for almost a millennia now. The type practiced is Semi-Cognatic but in practice it has only ever been absolute with a female heir never been required.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 2:19 pm
by Arcevia
Before the fall of the Royalist Faction during the Arcevian Civil War of 1902, the Royal House of Salander practiced an equal primogeniture.

It was enacted by King Fredrik IX of the House of Salander in 1860 during the Golden Era of the Salander Monarchy.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 2:21 pm
by Themiclesia
We practise male primogeniture in Themiclesia -- which is why our throne is empty, because we can't find an heir, so we're stuck in interregnum. Pity us, Auzkhia.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 2:25 pm
by The Scandinavian AlThing
The Althing uses a from of primogeniture based upon the most competent eldest offspring regardless of gender.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 2:48 pm
by Bulgarussia
Male-Primogeniture, for traditional sakes

PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 3:09 pm
by Phocidaea
There is no monarchy or other hereditary positions in Phocidaea (and the idea is abhorrent).

Primogeniture in general inheritance was eliminated in 1925. Males were by default legally preferred over females for inheritance, however, until 1969.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 3:24 pm
by Fyorlond
The Fyorn monarchy did at one point practice Primogeniture up until King Draugr The Great ended the practice and replaced it with a practice called "Hjalmr" in which the king chooses who he thinks is the most capable. If the king does without making his decision or the children are to young to be judged the a trusted noble takes up the kingly position until they are old enough to be judged.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 3:30 pm
by Purpelia
This was newer a custom in Purpelia.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 3:41 pm
by Hodor Hodor
Nope, the Fuhrer selects whoever he believes to be most competent as a heir. Officially at least, a few have declared that a son just so happened to be the best man for the job, but usually when that happens it makes the transition to the next administration more difficult.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 3:55 pm
by Mousehole
The Principality of Mousehole practices male preference primogeniture with no plans to change.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 4:28 pm
by New Vudnia
We do not use this system, the people are free to elect the next Grand prince(ss) from any of the Imperial family's children.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:22 pm
by Costa Alegria
Although Costa Fiero isn't a monarchy, primogeniture was practiced by many former noble families (who, albeit stripped of their titles still retained their vast tracts of land for family inheritance) in terms of who inherited property and the majority of the wealth. Inheritance laws passed in 1872 stated that land and wealth that were inherited by children or extended family could be inherited by the eldest male of the family if he was over 20 years of age. If this was not the case, the land and wealth was presided over by a male custodian until the boy reached the legal inheritance age. The law was changed in 1918 (along with laws granting universal suffrage) to ensure that women were able to inherit land and money if they were the eldest. The laws remained until 1970, when the laws were abolished altogether. Male-preferred or favored inheritance was still a common practice until the mid 1990's and is still widely practiced amongst native communities.

Primogeniture was also practiced by some political families to create dynasties. The de Sevres family is the most famous for this.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:05 pm
by Maraque
We're an elective monarchy, hereditary rule doesn't exist here, and in fact the next monarch may not even be a member of the current ruling family, let alone a child of the current monarch.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:20 pm
by New Mushroom Kingdom
We use 'normal' primogeniture here

PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:09 pm
by Chelta
Our monarchy follows male-preference primogeniture. Eldest children of the sovereign are preferenced before younger; males preferenced before females. We have a Queen now because she was the eldest of three daughters of our late sovereign, King William II.

Phocidaea wrote:the idea is abhorrent


No, it isn't.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:21 pm
by New Zepuha
We support a male-preferenced system.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:22 pm
by Jerusalemian
We have an Elective Monarchy where the 12 Lords and Ladies Elect amongst themselves.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:35 pm
by Yurka
For a long time we practiced female-preference primogeniture, for cultural and religious reasons, but it was oftentimes in name only. We eventually changed it to Absolute Cognatic in 1740 and it is expected that the direct children of the monarch would share certain official duties with the oldest passing laws and managing things related to war.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:55 pm
by Novus Niciae
Primogeniture is a moot point for most families in Novus Niciae since we practice line marriage were a person marries into a line with several spouses and when they die their assets are 'inherited' by surviving members of the marriage, any children they may have are considered to be members of the marriage until they come of age and marry into another line. And by this means some of the older line marriages are extremely wealthy.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 7:01 am
by The New Dog Nation
Primogeniture is legal, however not by law.

It is legal in the sense that anyone can do anything when it comes to who they give inheritance to, so, if they want to give there stuff to there first born son for cultural reasons, they can. Nothing is stopping them.

Of course it also is possible for the other children they have to sue the parent for mistreatment, and for favoritism. Plenty of cases have happened regarding this.