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Great Uhuru
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Postby Great Uhuru » Mon Oct 07, 2013 7:11 am

hereditary inheritance is not used in great uhuru as we are a perfect equal nation. we use redistribution instead

yesh even children and spouse redistribution
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Jetan
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Postby Jetan » Mon Oct 07, 2013 8:24 am

The Jeddak is chosen by Male-preference cognatic Primogeniture. In the olden times it was also the right of every Chief to challenge the reigning Jeddak to duel to death for the throne, but this hasn't happened in centuries altough it's still technically legal.
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Romberg
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Postby Romberg » Mon Oct 07, 2013 8:30 am

None. We are an elective monarchy.
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Duvniask
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Postby Duvniask » Mon Oct 07, 2013 12:14 pm

This is not something we practice.
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The CCF
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Postby The CCF » Mon Oct 07, 2013 12:54 pm

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No, it isn't.


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Anyways, back on on the topic, the CCF did not inherit the Monarchy of Canada when we separated from it in the 1950's. As such, monarchial inheritance is irrelevant.

On estate inheritance, estates are either inherited by the state or by whomever the deceased has named to inherit it in their will. Usually to the eldest child, regardless of gender, in regards to children.
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Udema
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Postby Udema » Mon Oct 07, 2013 1:37 pm

The Kingdom of Udema follows absolute primogeniture. So do some titles of nobility, although that depends on the wording in their letters of creation. Most titles of nobility descend equally to all children who bear the noble surname.

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Valmont
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Postby Valmont » Mon Oct 07, 2013 1:40 pm

Equal (Absolute) primogeniture is practiced in Valmont.

The law was changed from male-preference primogeniture in 1974, following the birth of Crown Princess Clarisse in 1973. HM Queen Odette II was the driving force behind the change in succession law, and was quoted referring to male-preference as "archaic".
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Elizabetheia
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Postby Elizabetheia » Thu Oct 10, 2013 6:55 am

Under the Constitution of Elizabetheian Governance, signed into law on April 5, 1605, the Sovereign is elected by the College of Lord Electors to the throne, and thus Elizabetheia is an elective monarchy that can defy the line of heredity.

Inheritance of private property follows the line of a will, or the appointment of the oldest heir by a court at common law.

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The Imperious Empire
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Postby The Imperious Empire » Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:56 am

The basis of the Empire is allegiance to the ruling dynasty, hence only members of the Imperial House may receive the crown.

Membership of the dynasty is determined by in the Pictish fashion i.e. uterine descent, where only children born to an Imperial mother are considered members. Sons of an Imperial father and an non-Imperial mother are excluded from the dynasty and treated as bastards for purposes of succession.

The ideal form of succession is considered to be absolute primogeniture, however, the selection of the heir is influenced greatly by court politics and the preference of the reigning monarch. Most Emperors or Empresses, similar to the Byzantines, will appoint their favoured successor as co-regent during their own lifetime.

While matrilinear descent ensures only blood-relatives of the sovereign receive the throne (mater semper certa est), it also results in occasional mild inbreeding so that male rulers can produce legitimate heirs. :(
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Gujyplin
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Postby Gujyplin » Thu Oct 17, 2013 5:05 pm

Gender-neutral primogeniture here. The eldest child gets the throne, regardless of gender.

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The Greater Luthorian Empire
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Postby The Greater Luthorian Empire » Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:50 pm

No, Luthoria is an electoral monarchy, upon the death of a monarch, anyone patrilineally descended from the grandfather of the current monarch can run for election. This ensures a large pool of potential rulers (polygamy being legal helps to expand the numbers further) while ensuring that rule of the Luthorian Empire stays under the house of Luthor. So while the daughter of an emperor can be elected empress of Luthoria, none of her children can run for election (assuming she doesn't marry one of her brothers or cousins), but the children of her brothers can.
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The Kaisers Prussian Imperium
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Postby The Kaisers Prussian Imperium » Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:25 am

When the current Kaiser dies, their progeny are gathered. The throne can go to a prince or princess. Succession is determined by looking at the applicants psyche profiles, military victories/defeats, how their victories were won and the loss of life, diplomatic skills, and test scores from their educational years. Most heir-apparent's who make it to adulthood tend to be highly skilled and capable of leadership, failures are personally killed by their parents in order to prevent a weak ruler. The Council of Marshall's decide which of the heirs is most worthy of being the next Kaiser/Kaiserin. If a princess is chosen to the next Kaiserin, her husband takes her name, thus securing the dynastic line.

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The Batorys
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Postby The Batorys » Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:57 am

The Empire practices a female version of primogeniture. The eldest daughter is next in line for the throne. Those directly in line for the throne tend to make sure that their first child is a daughter. If in the very rare case the Empress has no daughters, a sister or a niece will inherit.
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Arthymia
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Postby Arthymia » Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:29 am

No primogeniture of any kind in Arthymia.

When the current Grand Dragon dies or abdicates, a contest for his succession is held, and any dragon, except the arbiter appointed by the Grand Dragon, in case of the Grand Dragon's death, can be a contestant.
Once the time period during which candidates can enter the contest has finished, the Grand Dragon, or his arbiter, announces the contest, and its rules, and when the contest is over, the winner, who is then crowned the new Grand Dragon.

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Geadland
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Postby Geadland » Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:00 am

Since its restoration in 1868, the monarchy of Geadland has used absolute primogeniture. The eldest child gets the throne, regardless of their gender.
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Miraclian Antilles
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Postby Miraclian Antilles » Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:38 am

The Kingdom of the Miraclian Antilles, established 1 January 1911, has had absolute primogeniture since 1 January 1991, and had male primogeniture before then.

By 1980, King Kay had no sons, and three daughters (princesses Bee, Cee, and Dee), and his wife (Queen Em) had become too old to have more children.
Were the succession law to remain as it was, the kingdom would pass to a foreign dynasty, as the first king, King Jay, had a brother, who had an unbroken male line; all born, raised, and living in Transoxiana. Since that family had become Muslim, it was thought they would not make good rulers over the Pastafarian nation of the Miraclian Antilles. It was therefore decided to change the succession law, which took a decade of debating, planning, and legislating to come into effect.
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European Continental Union
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Postby European Continental Union » Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:36 pm

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Primogeniture had been a tradition during the Medieval Era because our ancestors still used feudalism to rule their nations.
However, primogeniture is discouraged in the Union Era because it can threaten the purity of our proud democratic system.

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Cameroi
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Postby Cameroi » Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:42 pm

wills are at the discretion of the individual. completely.

if a person dies intestate, then the government, after paying all debts, arrears and assigns, of the deseedant, divides the remainder equally, among all surviving members of their family (as defined in cameroi, where, where family is often defined by contract, and not limited to cosanguine hiers).

often there are among the deceased's affects, such items as are not readily devided. several options exist. one of which being that all parties may continue to make such use of them as they may already be doing, or where there is not mutual consent to this, the local council consults with the survivors, to draw up a contract, detailing how such items, generally housing structures, are to be disposed.

if there is no family, as is often the case in cameroi, as around half the population choose to live completely on their own, without sapient co-habitants, usable items revert to their local mathom house.

at any rate, such a concept of primogniture, is seldom practicaly aplicable, owing to the nature of cameroi families and patterns of life.
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