Your Military size?

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

Oh and we have a huge income tax ( about 45% ) and when you are age 18-20 you go to a military training camp or join a public service for road or construction or building bridges etc

Lets assume that you actually can have half of your people in your military and not destroy the economy, even with a 45% tax rate, and even if every cent of those taxes went to your military you would still only have $8,240 per year to support each soldiers, this does not include ships, tanks, and other support vehicles, so even if your military was all infantry, you would still have a poorly equipped (I am talking about Mosin Nagants and AK-47s, weapons that are older 100 years old) and paid army. If I was to sent just one division from my Imperial Army into your nation, I could probably conquer your whole nation in under a week.

[Grays Harbor]

Oh and we have a huge income tax ( about 45% ) and when you are age 18-20 you go to a military training camp or join a public service for road or construction or building bridges etc

You may have 45% income tax, but lets see how that breaks down...

Government Budget Details
Administration: $431,874,708.05 16%
Social Welfare: $377,890,369.54 14%
Healthcare: $377,890,369.54 14%
Education: $377,890,369.54 14%
Religion & Spirituality: $539,843,385.06 20%
Defence: $161,953,015.52 6%
Law & Order: $431,874,708.05 16%
Commerce: $0.00 0%
Public Transport: $0.00 0%
The Environment: $0.00 0%
Social Equality: $0.00 0%

Defense spending is only 6%. Not very much at all. In fact, its pretty much on the "very low" side of things. Using the "$500K" standard of expenditures (not an official part of NS, but reasonably accurate as to what you can afford) that would give you money for an army of 323, including their equipment. Basically a reinforced company sized unit.

[Fatatatutti]

To explain it another way: Fatatatutti operates on what is jokingly called the Doughnut-a-Day program.

Our military's funding is entirely private. If every one of our 8.5 billion people buys one 50-cent bake-sale doughnut every day, that's about $4.25 billion a day in military funding or $1.5 trillion a year. If we spend $500,000 on each soldier, we can fund a standing army of about 3 million, which is about what we have.

An army of 3 billion, which is still less than half the population, would cost each citizen a thousand doughnuts a day.

-- Gen. Castro-Stalina, seconded to the 7th Air Cavalry Regiment

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

To explain it another way: Fatatatutti operates on what is jokingly called the Doughnut-a-Day program.

Our military's funding is entirely private. If every one of our 8.5 billion people buys one 50-cent bake-sale doughnut every day, that's about $4.25 billion a day in military funding or $1.5 trillion a year. If we spend $500,000 on each soldier, we can fund a standing army of about 3 million, which is about what we have.

An army of 3 billion, which is still less than half the population, would cost each citizen a thousand doughnuts a day.

-- Gen. Castro-Stalina, seconded to the 7th Air Cavalry Regiment

That assumes that the doughnuts have no cost to make, which of course they do. They have to buy the dough and make the doughnut both of which cost money. Also I really would not trust my safety to an army that is pretty much a cross between Blackwater and the Girl Scouts.

[Fatatatutti]

That assumes that the doughnuts have no cost to make, which of course they do. They have to buy the dough and make the doughnut both of which cost money.

The doughnuts are donated, of course, by the mothers and grandmothers of our soldiers and by other interested parties. They do cost money to make, so the actual cost to the economy is more like 70 or 80 cents per person per day. And I'm not counting the cost of the navy, either. Those guys spend money like water.

Also I really would not trust my safety to an army that is pretty much a cross between Blackwater and the Girl Scouts.

No problem. We have no intention of protecting you anyway.

-- Gen. Castro-Stalina, seconded to the 7th Air Cavalry Regiment

[Juggerlands]

But there not getting payed unless there in service. And right now only 25,000 are in service

[Tsenacommacah]

And I'm not counting the cost of the navy, either. Those guys spend money like water.

Maritime forces are traditionally hideously expensive to maintain. This is why we have essentially no navy. Cute joke.

No problem. We have no intention of protecting you anyway.

-- Gen. Castro-Stalina, seconded to the 7th Air Cavalry Regiment

I believe the expression here is..."You just got served."

I do love a witty lady.

-- Saburou Sullivan Casey, Minister to the King

[Grays Harbor]

But there not getting payed unless there in service. And right now only 25,000 are in service

There is more to it than "getting paid". Where do you think the equipment comes from? the weapons? Vehicles? bullets? Food? Housing? Training? All that costs. Alot.

Is there some great military fairy out there who grants wishes?

[Neo Prutenia]

There is more to it than "getting paid". Where do you think the equipment comes from? the weapons? Vehicles? bullets? Food? Housing? Training? All that costs. Alot.

Is there some great military fairy out there who grants wishes?

Perhaps they use older equipment - you don't buy your entire Army's supplies and weapons each year again - more likely you will just buy/produce ammo, fuel, perhaps uniforms and similar stuff. Or are you buying new tanks each year for the Harborian Army?

OOC - Grey, now seriously, you do appear to have quite the knowledge and know-how when it comes to army size and maintainance - care to provide some links to help out the others, or at least that we can see your references?

[Grays Harbor]

There is more to it than "getting paid". Where do you think the equipment comes from? the weapons? Vehicles? bullets? Food? Housing? Training? All that costs. Alot.

Is there some great military fairy out there who grants wishes?

Perhaps they use older equipment - you don't buy your entire Army's supplies and weapons each year again - more likely you will just buy/produce ammo, fuel, perhaps uniforms and similar stuff. Or are you buying new tanks each year for the Harborian Army?

OOC - Grey, now seriously, you do appear to have quite the knowledge and know-how when it comes to army size and maintainance - care to provide some links to help out the others, or at least that we can see your references?

Its "Harberian", thank you very much.

And no, you don't buy new equipment every year. There is such a thing as "upkeep and maintenance" to think about, unless you just leave your vehicles parked without any maintenance. Again, that ain't free.

[Dimoniquid]

We sell our old equipment every other few years, but we monitor closely to any other equipment that may need to be updated.

[Juggerlands]

Well for equipment we buy mostly surplus from other nations. For weapons we mostly just have side arms and light weapons and surplus. for Vehicles we just did what Israel did. upgrade other nations tanks/vehicles.

[Bafuria]

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[Fatatatutti]

... you don't buy your entire Army's supplies and weapons each year again - more likely you will just buy/produce ammo, fuel, perhaps uniforms and similar stuff.

Like most organizations, we have separate Operating and Capital Budgets. The Operating Budget determines how many personnel and how much equipment you can have in operation on a day-to-day basis. The Capital Budget determines how often you can replace your equipment. At the moment, we're "saving up" in the Capital Budget to convert our R-101 assault rifles from 5.56mm to either 6.5mm or 6.8mm.

-- Gen. Castro-Stalina, seconded to the 7th Air Cavalry Regiment

[Zagadonia]

all men ages 19- 65 and women of that age groop that join of there own will

[Grays Harbor]

all men ages 19- 65 and women of that age groop that join of there own will

excuse me, but did you really just say that all men between 19 and 65 are in your military? Seriously?

*gets popcorn to snack on as we watch yet another economy go the way of the dinosaurs*

[Quattrablegia]

Quattrablegia does not have a standing army. Denmark maintains three military bases (one on each island) for basic defence, as a part of the terms of Quattrablegia's independence from Denmark. However, Quattrablegia does have its Humanitarian Forces which provides assistance to other nations in times of crisis.

[Nitom]

Army

- 107,000,000 soldiers
- 80,000 tanks
- 35,500 artillery pieces
- 18,000 gunships
- 10,300 helicopters
- 25,800 SPGs
- 13,350 IFV's
- 29,000 MBTs
- 16,100 Heavy Tanks


air force

- 664 harrier's
- 592 tornado's
- 1,205 F-15's
- 925 transport aircraft
- 818 reconnaissance aircraft
- 312 preditor drone's
- 563 mk-5 killer's
- 905 F-18's
- 1,873 F-26's
- 975 F-39's
- 503 F-16's

navy

- 252 aircraft carriers
- 910 cruisers
- 658 destroyers
- 329 battleships
- 520 frigates
- 461 submarines
- 5,564 LPH
- 3,148 Auxiliaries

missles

- 1,943 cruise missles
- 2,235 v-2 missles

[Dimoniquid]

OOC: I'm pretty sure no-one has that many aircraft.

[Nitom]

OOC: I'm pretty sure no-one has that many aircraft.

ooc: oh i just noticed that, sorry.

[Solarva]

I wonder how expansive does an army of 5 million armed with sticks cost (basically an ultra-supersized police force with batons.) Curious.

[Nitom]

I wonder how expansive does an army of 5 million armed with sticks cost (basically an ultra-supersized police force with batons.) Curious.

lol, whats left of my budget after i spend what is needed goes to buying supplies.

[Grays Harbor]

I wonder how expansive does an army of 5 million armed with sticks cost (basically an ultra-supersized police force with batons.) Curious.

lol, whats left of my budget after i spend what is needed goes to buying supplies.

That would be what, 3 cans of spam and a case of generic sodas?

[New Balkaney]

ACTIVATED FLEETS

Task Force Terminal

Battle Group Access

Battle Group Seeker

Fleet Group Control

Fleet Group Shadow

Fleet Group Command

Fleet Group Sight

Fleet Group Control

Fleet Group Swift

Fleet Group Loyalty

Fleet Group Cover

Fleet Group Service

Fleet Group Open

DEACTIVATED FLEETS

Task Force Hornet

Battle Group Symikaar

Battle Group Hurrican

Fleet Group Faith

Fleet Group Flood

Fleet Group Glory

Fleet Group Tumult

Fleet Group Devotion

Fleet Group Tidal

Fleet Group Absolution

Fleet Group Tsunami

Fleet Group Crusade

Fleet Group Storm

Task Force Cutthroat

Battle Group Jakaal

Battle Group Razor

Fleet Group Pelt

Fleet Group Edge

Fleet Group Claw

Fleet Group Gleam

Fleet Group Pawl

Fleet Group Incision

Fleet Group Fang

Fleet Group Surgical

Fleet Group Muzzle

Fleet Group Scalpel

Within each Fleet Group are Three Fleets, and within each Fleet is a group of three to fifteen warships of various classes. Each such Fleet is generalyl crewed by 7,000 to 70,000 men depending on specific roles and compositions.

Within each Fleet, combat detachments generally consist of 25% - 50% of the total personell load, including Enforcer, Sturmtruppen and Raider contingents. This number can spike to upwards of 75% or drop as low as 5% on certain mission load outs and after key engagements and planetary deployments.

In total, the Armada consists of fifty activated Fleets and an additional one hundred deactivated Fleets awaiting crews and munitions enough to warrant being called into active service.

Service personell breaks down into:
500,000 - Armada Crewmen
250,000 - Federation Enforcers
200,000 - 5th Shock Army (Sturmtruppen)
7,500 - 115th Rapid Assault Infantry Division (Raiders)
1,500 - 116th Rapid Assault Infantry Divison (Raiders)

or, .22% of the total population of the Republic of New Balkaney.

In total, 959,000 Balkans serve in various capacities within the Armada, with the Armada taking up a defensive first responder/long range deployment and comprehensive weapons support roles in deep space and orbital combat, along with providing heavy support elements to infantry units during planetary siege and conquest.

Within the Sturmtruppen Infantry, most units are designated Marine Capacity, moving within Dropships launched from Troop Carriers to engage in ground combat, usually bringing their own artillery, air support, mechanized and support elements.
Within the Raider forces, a small Fleet of ships is maintained and crewed exclusively by pilots and engineers of the 116th RAID, who also operate the Land Raider, RamJet and Raider dropship craft. Members of the 115th serve as deployable crewmembers/maintenance staff and largely remain aboard these vessels when not on active deployment surface side or engaging in boarding actions.

The Enforcers are the directly Federally controlled forces of New Balkaney, with all other units being classified as "Federalized Militia/Ethnic Divisions". These troopers of the Armada serve in both active combat and support capacity, usually as guards and boarder-repulsers aboard the Armada ships, as well as the backbone of most conquests on the ground. Usually these generally armed and equipped soldiers provide the core to any assault or police action, and it is around these soldiers that most other forces rally.

[Nativian Islands]

50,000, mostly made up of those between 16-18.