Your Military size?

[United South-Africa]

The USANDF (United South-African National Defence Force) is still relatively small - as is our population. The air force currently predominates.

[Vukanova]

Good to see a nation with realistic and self-degraded army specs. Kudos to you sir

P.S. I'm guessing you're going for the small, underequipped, poorly trained, post-Soviet model?

Thank you.

It is not so much post-Soviet in the literal sense as it is using Soviet equipment because it's cheap as dirt and nearly as common.

Essentially, the Republic is a very young state, and as such the military, while basically competent, has very little experience, and most in national military service lack large-scale combat experience. They would fight bravely and well as individuals, but, a truly competent army would overwhelm most of them in a stand-up engagement.

Two exceptions to the general mediocrity of the Armed Forces are the Commando Battalion and the Navy Diving Unit, both of which are at least moderately worthy of the title 'elite,' and can actually be quite dangerous.

[Auman]

Good to see a nation with realistic and self-degraded army specs. Kudos to you sir

P.S. I'm guessing you're going for the small, underequipped, poorly trained, post-Soviet model?

Thank you.

It is not so much post-Soviet in the literal sense as it is using Soviet equipment because it's cheap as dirt and nearly as common.

Essentially, the Republic is a very young state, and as such the military, while basically competent, has very little experience, and most in national military service lack large-scale combat experience. They would fight bravely and well as individuals, but, a truly competent army would overwhelm most of them in a stand-up engagement.

Two exceptions to the general mediocrity of the Armed Forces are the Commando Battalion and the Navy Diving Unit, both of which are at least moderately worthy of the title 'elite,' and can actually be quite dangerous.

I like this. Carry on, intrepid hero...

[Vukanova]

I like this. Carry on, intrepid hero...

Oh? Well, thank you.

[Cobhanglica]

Right now the professional Armed Forces of Vukanova are small.

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First, you have the National Guard, built around three mechanized combat brigades, an independent heavy artillery battalion, independent Military Police, Commando and Combat Engineers battalions, and all of the necessary support elements.

Each of the mechanized brigades also has smaller, organic MP, CE and artillery forces.

National Guard personnel numbers are at roughly 20,000 without mobilization of Citizen Force units and Militia.

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Next, there is the Air Force, which has three dozen MiG-29 'Fulcrum' aerial superiority fighters, divided in to three squadrons. They operate roughly two dozen self-propelled SAM missile systems in a single aerial defense battalion. They also have eight MI-8 'Hip' helicopters, and an integral Transport Command of five dedicated aircraft, including an Antonov An-72. This force may be augmented by requisitioned civilian aircraft.

Personnel levels in the Air Force currently sit at roughly 2,000.

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Finally, there is the Navy, which at this point really consists of a couple Svetlyak-class patrol ships, and eight Super Dvora Mk II-class security boats. There is also the Navy Diving Unit, a clandestine force officially listed as a training command.

Navy personnel strength currently rests at approximately 2,500.

Good to see a nation with realistic and self-degraded army specs. Kudos to you sir

P.S. I'm guessing you're going for the small, underequipped, poorly trained, post-Soviet model?

Realistic? I'd say downright diminuitive, even by RL standards. Not that having a small military is a problem; just be really careful with diplomacy.

[Vukanova]

OOC:

Many nations IRL with populations of just a few million would actually regard this as quite large, but really the main reasons I chose to keep it so little, for now, were that the Vukanovan government is a small one, erected on minarchist ideals, meaning it has a few responsibilities laid out by law, and can intrude upon nothing else. Taxes must also be kept relatively low.

I also wanted to use it to illustrate the youthfulness of the Republic, the fact that it is still getting started really, and as such most of the big institutions are still being assembled.

[Auman]

OOC:

Many nations IRL with populations of just a few million would actually regard this as quite large, but really the main reasons I chose to keep it so little, for now, were that the Vukanovan government is a small one, erected on minarchist ideals, meaning it has a few responsibilities laid out by law, and can intrude upon nothing else. Taxes must also be kept relatively low.

I also wanted to use it to illustrate the youthfulness of the Republic, the fact that it is still getting started really, and as such most of the big institutions are still being assembled.

Your military would fit in with the majority of Central Asia's armed forces. Georgia and Uzbekistan come to mind, even though Georgia is technically European. But the post-Soviet word has been thrown out a lot already.

[Vukanova]

OOC:

I seem to have garnered some attention, here...

[Auman]

Most of the time we're battling with people to reduce unrealistic numbers. The last guy that came in with a reasonably sized and organized military received the seal of approval as well.

[Vukanova]

Most of the time we're battling with people to reduce unrealistic numbers. The last guy that came in with a reasonably sized and organized military received the seal of approval as well.

I see. Who was that?

[Halzak]

ME!

[Solarva]

IC: Total military and related personnel would be around 0.5-1% of my population, liking to keep specialized, hardened, and highly equipped units on field at all times and keeping it as realistic to my population as possible (although I think it's still a bit high). Specific numbers amongst Solarvan military branches and sub-branches would not be disclosed.

OOC: In reality it's actually...

:o The one and only Chuck Norris!!
Response to to his epic Epicness: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XefST76KxDE

[Ancient and Holy Terra]

The Republic of Ancient Terra, as a densely-populated island nation with few regional security threats, allocates a relatively small percentage of its GDP to defense spending (though this still accounts for an enormous amount of money). A large emphasis is placed on maintaining a strong Naval tradition, including a significant Terran Marine presence, while the Air Force has also rapidly risen in importance in recent decades.

Current defense doctrine revolves around intercepting any invasion force before it can conduct an amphibious landing; Ancient Terra's extremely high population density and heavily urbanized population centers guarantees that civilian and military casualties would be unacceptably high if invading forces were to gain a foothold and press inward.

Active personnel in the Terran Defense Forces, according to the latest figures released by the Ministry of Defense, total just over 5 million. An additional 8 million men and women, primarily Ground Self-Defense Force reservists, can be called up in an emergency. Owing to Ancient Terra's presence in the global defense industry, along with a dominant economy, current thinking places an emphasis on the deployment of evolved indigenous technologies over sheer numbers.

Ancient Terra is a significant contributor to international peacekeeping and anti-piracy efforts. An economy based on heavy industry, as well as significant domestic shipbuilding and aerospace industries, guarantee Ancient Terra the ability to rapidly militarize in the face of a drastically-altered global security situation.

OOC: I dislike these large militaries, even given the relative size and population of many nations on NationStates, and in general my RPs revolve around small combined-force units, a la a MEU and its accompanying amphibious taskforce. The numbers given above are largely a moot point, I suppose.

[Halzak]

OOC: I dislike these large militaries, even given the relative size and population of many nations on NationStates, and in general my RPs revolve around small combined-force units, a la a MEU and its accompanying amphibious taskforce. The numbers given above are largely a moot point, I suppose.

I dislike them more so b/c people give an ungodly amount of their troops 'elite' status, such as the one below:

Army Corps: 25,000,000
Air Force: 12,000,000
Navy: 22,000,000
National Guard: 2,000,000
Blackhawks (Spec ops): 1,500,000
Black Berets (Spec ops):1,500,000
Total Forces: 64,000,000

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

OOC: I dislike these large militaries, even given the relative size and population of many nations on NationStates, and in general my RPs revolve around small combined-force units, a la a MEU and its accompanying amphibious taskforce. The numbers given above are largely a moot point, I suppose.

I dislike them more so b/c people give an ungodly amount of their troops 'elite' status, such as the one below:

Army Corps: 25,000,000
Air Force: 12,000,000
Navy: 22,000,000
National Guard: 2,000,000
Blackhawks (Spec ops): 1,500,000
Black Berets (Spec ops):1,500,000
Total Forces: 64,000,000

My average national militia soldier (pretty much a modern day Imperial Guard if you have ever heard of warhammer 40k) are probably better equipped than their spec ops soldiers, and I know my regular soldiers would rape their spec ops (20 something weeks of basic training, and each soldier is armed with an R2 Light Assault Rifle, or some variant of it).

[Juggerlands]

Juggerlands population is very small ( 6million ) Therefore everyone is in the army ages 16-45. About half of the population.

The regular army which also is the police has about 75,000 active personnel. The navy is almost non existent and the air force is small too. The Juggerland has a special ops group called Lone wolf which patrols the many mountains/ Forests in Juggerland.

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

Juggerlands population is very small ( 6million ) Therefore everyone is in the army ages 16-45. About half of the population.

The regular army which also is the police has about 75,000 active personnel. The navy is almost non existent and the air force is small too. The Juggerland has a special ops group called Lone wolf which patrols the many mountains/ Forests in Juggerland.

NO


I will point out one last time, your standing army cannot be more than 5% of your population during times of peace because it would start to cripple your economy. Also if half of the people in your nation were in the military how would you afford to equip all of them.

[Dimoniquid]

Juggerlands population is very small ( 6million ) Therefore everyone is in the army ages 16-45. About half of the population.

The regular army which also is the police has about 75,000 active personnel. The navy is almost non existent and the air force is small too. The Juggerland has a special ops group called Lone wolf which patrols the many mountains/ Forests in Juggerland.

NO


I will point out one last time, your standing army cannot be more than 5% of your population during times of peace because it would start to cripple your economy. Also if half of the people in your nation were in the military how would you afford to equip all of them.

Uh... he means that half the people in his nation aged 16-45.

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

Juggerlands population is very small ( 6million ) Therefore everyone is in the army ages 16-45. About half of the population.

The regular army which also is the police has about 75,000 active personnel. The navy is almost non existent and the air force is small too. The Juggerland has a special ops group called Lone wolf which patrols the many mountains/ Forests in Juggerland.

NO


I will point out one last time, your standing army cannot be more than 5% of your population during times of peace because it would start to cripple your economy. Also if half of the people in your nation were in the military how would you afford to equip all of them.

Uh... he means that half the people in his nation aged 16-45.

Even that would be a massive part of his population. Also no, he said "Therefore everyone is in the army ages 16-45. About half of the population." He says everyone (every single able bodied person) is in the army between the ages he stated, not half of the people between the ages of 16-45.

[Tsenacommacah]

We have no standing army per se, but the King does have four hundred and fifty men and women-at-arms who function as his personal bodyguards, and who know how to fight.

In times of war, the King would call out the Citizenry-in-Arms, whose numbers range anywhere from a few hundred to every able-bodied man in the Kingdom.

Even at this greatest extreme we would have only a few thousand warriors, all of them what you would call light infantry, and light cavalry riding on horseback. It goes without saying that this would be a great strain, and that the loss of this force would break us entirely.

-- Saburou Sullivan Casey, Minister to the King

[Kirklington]

10 million people out of our 82 million

[Grays Harbor]

Juggerlands population is very small ( 6million ) Therefore everyone is in the army ages 16-45. About half of the population.

The regular army which also is the police has about 75,000 active personnel. The navy is almost non existent and the air force is small too. The Juggerland has a special ops group called Lone wolf which patrols the many mountains/ Forests in Juggerland.

NO


I will point out one last time, your standing army cannot be more than 5% of your population during times of peace because it would start to cripple your economy. Also if half of the people in your nation were in the military how would you afford to equip all of them.

Uh... he means that half the people in his nation aged 16-45.

Actually, I believe A-SE has it right, the fellow meant half the pop, period. which, by the way, would probably only be about 30-40% of anuy pop, at most. But thats neither here nor there.

Everybody 16-45 is just so ludicrous and far-fetched as to be worthy of an immediate "ignore" until such time as they figure out that ain't possible.

[Dimoniquid]

10 million people out of our 82 million

Okay... okay.
82'000'000 / 100 = 820'000, yes? Now, 10'000'000 / 820'000 = 12.19512 recurring. This means that twelve to thirteen percent of your population goes into your armed forces - yes? If my math is correct, this would equal a broken economy.

[Juggerlands]

We only use the reserves in time of crisis. they are totally ignored until called up. right now we have a lot of active personnel due to we are a new country. Once stabilized we will only have 25,000 active personnel

[Juggerlands]

Oh and we have a huge income tax ( about 45% ) and when you are age 18-20 you go to a military training camp or join a public service for road or construction or building bridges etc