Your Military size?

[Manahakatouki]

Enough to handle national issues and help in foreign troubles with other nations.

[Spetsnazastan]

99% of my population is the military, and the other 1% are terrorists.

[Estruia]

With compulsory service at 18 for 2 years, plus another mandatory 3 year service time after the age of 30, I could easily get 15% of my population into the armed forces...right?

Why the second 3 year term?

I estimate around 3% Standing Army (Peacetime), 12.5% Mobilised (Wartime, after 3 months)

the 2nd 3 year term is to ensure that they are repaying their debt to the government, since EVERYTHING is taken care of, housing, medical, education and basic food needs are met by the government, its their way of unwillingly saying thank you XD

Why make it mandatory though? Why not simply give every veteran these things as a reward for their service?

The Adrian Empire has done something remarkably similar, (which scares me) but it is voluntary, so people who do undertake the service are willing and capable.

I would rather force them then leave it up to their own choice, most have families and wont want to leave them, so this is a way of bolstering my armed forces...plus, like the roman empire, any immigrants are given legal status after one tour of duty.

and most immigrants are over the age of 18, so thats also why its mandatory at age 30.

[Manahakatouki]

99% of my population is the military, and the other 1% are terrorists.

Riiiiiiiiight....

[New Balkaney]

99% of my population is the military, and the other 1% are terrorists.

wat

[Crookfur]

Since people are pretty much discussing military and ect, I have a question:

Could it be feasible for a country to have the core of its armored forces composed of wheeled tank destroyers (such as the Centauro or Rooikat), supplemented by a small force of MBTs? I ask because reading about the aformentioned wheeled tank destroyers they have faster speeds than mainstay MBTs, but mount the same main armament. And seeing how in NS warfare your likely to have the same grade military equipment as your foes, theres not really a whole lot of sense to maintain a large force of MBTs that can be taken out by ATGMs from infantry.

A lot depends on your terrain and budgetary reasons.

If you have South African type bush as the main sort of terrain where you operating then yes using WAFVs with a supporting core of "proper" armor makes sense. In the muddy plains such as you would find Northern europe not so much.

WAFVs do tend towards beign more deployable so they would be useful for expeditionary warfare.

Finally they tend to be a bit cheaper than tanks so it is udnerstandable that those in charge of the budget tend to favour them.

In short there are umpteen ways of justifying their use so feel free to play around with the idea and use it to help devlope your nation's story.

[Vesser]

Approximately 2,500,000 men and women serve in the Vesski Armed Forces, both in Active and Reserve Rolls. 1,600,000 are with the Vesski Army, while 600,000 are with the Navy and 300,000 are with the Marines.

[Inherentjoydom]

Our military is primarily privateized.

[Vesser]

Our military is primarily privateized.

So, essentially, your top level commanders can be easily bribed into leaving your cause, seeing as how only money compels them to do their job?

[Cyber Utopia]

100,000 people are employed in Cyber Utopia's official military, 20,000 of which are combat personnel.

My rarely-used mathematics skills say that's less than 0.01 percent of my population.

Yeah, I'm hardcore.

[Auman]

Our military is primarily privateized.

So, essentially, your top level commanders can be easily bribed into leaving your cause, seeing as how only money compels them to do their job?

>Implying there's anything wrong with this.

[Fatatatutti]

Our military is primarily privateized.

So is ours - privately funded and privately controlled. We are dedicated only to protecting the people of Fatatatutti, not following the whims of politicians.

-- Gen. Castro-Stalina, on board the Pom Pom Galli

[The Adrian Empire]

With compulsory service at 18 for 2 years, plus another mandatory 3 year service time after the age of 30, I could easily get 15% of my population into the armed forces...right?

Why the second 3 year term?

I estimate around 3% Standing Army (Peacetime), 12.5% Mobilised (Wartime, after 3 months)

the 2nd 3 year term is to ensure that they are repaying their debt to the government, since EVERYTHING is taken care of, housing, medical, education and basic food needs are met by the government, its their way of unwillingly saying thank you XD

Why make it mandatory though? Why not simply give every veteran these things as a reward for their service?

The Adrian Empire has done something remarkably similar, (which scares me) but it is voluntary, so people who do undertake the service are willing and capable.

I would rather force them then leave it up to their own choice, most have families and wont want to leave them, so this is a way of bolstering my armed forces...plus, like the roman empire, any immigrants are given legal status after one tour of duty.

and most immigrants are over the age of 18, so thats also why its mandatory at age 30.

Most of your citizen's have families at 18? I would say that's atypical, but besides the point.

What I mean is people are more likely to sing for their supper (or at least more willing) so to speak, if the supper is a reward for singing, as opposed to singing being an obligation for having eaten supper. If you know what I mean. Essentially speaking they will leave their families if they know win or lose their wives and children (or husband's, etc.) will be cared for as a result of their service, then their family already be provided for and knowing that if they do not serve they will not be, it is begging resentment, dangerous in any planned to be harmonious society.

Immigrants are similarly rewarded in my nation, but Rome never demanded it's immigrants serve in the legions, otherwise what possible reason would there to be to be an immigrant, you will only get a trickle of immigration with those terms of entry. Rome was grand but few barbarians would have been so impressed if the minute they step foot in the city they were shipped off to fight their own.

What benefit are people fighting because they are being forced, little really as desertion rates unless strictly punished will be very high, your troops will be low in morale, and highly volatile for revolts. Much better to have a volunteer army, even better if there is a reward.

[Auman]

Their armed forces are clearly made up of paramilitary and revolutionary groups. Read: Not a military.

[The Adrian Empire]

Our military is primarily privateized.

So is ours - privately funded and privately controlled. We are dedicated only to protecting the people of Fatatatutti, not following the whims of politicians.

-- Gen. Castro-Stalina, on board the Pom Pom Galli

I can almost smell Capitalism in that statement, but I know better....

[Estruia]

With compulsory service at 18 for 2 years, plus another mandatory 3 year service time after the age of 30, I could easily get 15% of my population into the armed forces...right?

Why the second 3 year term?

I estimate around 3% Standing Army (Peacetime), 12.5% Mobilised (Wartime, after 3 months)

the 2nd 3 year term is to ensure that they are repaying their debt to the government, since EVERYTHING is taken care of, housing, medical, education and basic food needs are met by the government, its their way of unwillingly saying thank you XD

Why make it mandatory though? Why not simply give every veteran these things as a reward for their service?

The Adrian Empire has done something remarkably similar, (which scares me) but it is voluntary, so people who do undertake the service are willing and capable.

I would rather force them then leave it up to their own choice, most have families and wont want to leave them, so this is a way of bolstering my armed forces...plus, like the roman empire, any immigrants are given legal status after one tour of duty.

and most immigrants are over the age of 18, so thats also why its mandatory at age 30.

Most of your citizen's have families at 18? I would say that's atypical, but besides the point.

What I mean is people are more likely to sing for their supper (or at least more willing) so to speak, if the supper is a reward for singing, as opposed to singing being an obligation for having eaten supper. If you know what I mean. Essentially speaking they will leave their families if they know win or lose their wives and children (or husband's, etc.) will be cared for as a result of their service, then their family already be provided for and knowing that if they do not serve they will not be, it is begging resentment, dangerous in any planned to be harmonious society.

Immigrants are similarly rewarded in my nation, but Rome never demanded it's immigrants serve in the legions, otherwise what possible reason would there to be to be an immigrant, you will only get a trickle of immigration with those terms of entry. Rome was grand but few barbarians would have been so impressed if the minute they step foot in the city they were shipped off to fight their own.

What benefit are people fighting because they are being forced, little really as desertion rates unless strictly punished will be very high, your troops will be low in morale, and highly volatile for revolts. Much better to have a volunteer army, even better if there is a reward.

I meant that the people at 30 have families.

the people at 18 dont, Like i said earlier, its to pay back the state for everything they've provided for them, since most dont have jobs yet and cannot pay their fair share of the taxes

[Fatatatutti]

We are dedicated only to protecting the people of Fatatatutti, not following the whims of politicians.

Wait, who hands out the commisions?

Our officers are selected for ability by those above and below them. For example, if a platoon leader is needed, he/she must be approved by the company commander and by the members of the platoon - and so on up the line.

-- Gen. Castro-Stalina, on board the Pom Pom Galli

[The Adrian Empire]

Our military is primarily privateized.

So, essentially, your top level commanders can be easily bribed into leaving your cause, seeing as how only money compels them to do their job?

That seems to be a common misconception, morals aren't easily bought, mercenaries work for both sides only when they don't care who wins, but you won't see Blackwater working for Osama Bin Laden just because they are paid to do so.

[Bad turtle necks]

the Confederacy of bad turtle necks does not have a government Military, but instead private security corporations which numbers approximately at 300000 altogether at this present moment.

[Inherentjoydom]

Corporations do most of the fighting because war is profitable.

[Neo ORB]

Neo Orb
14.2+ mill fit for Military duty
556 thousand Regular forces
2 thousand NOSF Special Forces
25 NOSFIT Agents Specializing in Assassination and guerrilla Warfare

[Vesser]

Our military is primarily privateized.

So, essentially, your top level commanders can be easily bribed into leaving your cause, seeing as how only money compels them to do their job?

That seems to be a common misconception, morals aren't easily bought, mercenaries work for both sides only when they don't care who wins, but you won't see Blackwater working for Osama Bin Laden just because they are paid to do so.

Then again, Blackwater has a major stake in US Industry, Blackwater is not the entire US Military, and I doubt Osama Bin Laden has more money then the entire US Defense Budget. If I wanted to invade Inherentjoydom, for instance, I could simply pay the Contractors to turn around and attack the country, as the contractors are the first and last line of defense.

EDIT:
Also, the fact that 1 US Dollar is worth nearly 1,500 Iraqi Dinars, and that 1 US Dollar is worth nearly 50 Afghani Afghanis (which is also the funniest name for a currency I've ever heard), they'd have to come up with a lot of money to pay for a bribe.

[The Adrian Empire]

Our military is primarily privateized.

So, essentially, your top level commanders can be easily bribed into leaving your cause, seeing as how only money compels them to do their job?

That seems to be a common misconception, morals aren't easily bought, mercenaries work for both sides only when they don't care who wins, but you won't see Blackwater working for Osama Bin Laden just because they are paid to do so.

Then again, Blackwater has a major stake in US Industry, Blackwater is not the entire US Military, and I doubt Osama Bin Laden has more money then the entire US Defense Budget. If I wanted to invade Inherentjoydom, for instance, I could simply pay the Contractors to turn around and attack the country, as the contractors are the first and last line of defense.

EDIT:
Also, the fact that 1 US Dollar is worth nearly 1,500 Iraqi Dinars, and that 1 US Dollar is worth nearly 50 Afghani Afghanis (which is also the funniest name for a currency I've ever heard), they'd have to come up with a lot of money to pay for a bribe.

But would they? If you paid me to attack my own country I'd throw the money right back in your face no matter the price. The same as any publicly funded soldier would, it's not government oversight that makes them loyal to the country, it's patriotism. Now, entrusting your defence to a Multi-national Corporation might be a bad idea, all the same contracts would probably be binding.

And I doubt they are his last line of defence, if you are arming private corporations your likely arming civilians too.

[The Adrian Empire]

Corporations do most of the fighting because war is profitable.

Not anymore, unless you're just making the weapons and selling them. Otherwise it's a terrible expense, unless you plan to raid undefended towns with light infantry to rob and steal everything of value.

War is not profitable, defence contracts could very well be though. However, I'm more in favour of a mix system.

[Radictistan]

Radictistan has about 2.5 million personnel in the Royal Radictistan Army, 210,000 in the Royal Radictistan Navy, and 108,000 in the Royal Radictistan Air Force. I'm too lazy right now to go through all my spreadsheets and tally up how many personnel are active-duty versus reserved but I estimate that the active portion is about 40-50%. I'm working on lowering that share. In addition to the regular military, the paramilitary National Defense Organization (think Vulksturm or Fedayeen Saddam in terms of training and equipment) has about 14 million, of which virtually all are reservists.